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Psychonautica episodes (merged)

I'll definitely be bringing my recorder along to that event!

C-realm, psychedelic salon and all the dopefiend network podcasts have just joined forces on one website, i probably shouldnt post the link because it's a forum and i dont want to take the piss, but it's 'the grow report', so all these podcasts can now be found in one place
 
^I'm going to EGA- i'll feed you scoops direct from McKenna. Hi, by the way. Hi Max. Looking forward to hearing your dulcet tones.
 
PS. I'll be interesterdted to see what you thought of Letchers book- I basically skimmed it, as it had most mushroom info I've got, but I did like the way he poked holes in every psychedelic origin of religion idea.
 
C-realm, psychedelic salon and all the dopefiend network podcasts have just joined forces on one website, i probably shouldnt post the link because it's a forum and i dont want to take the piss, but it's 'the grow report', so all these podcasts can now be found in one place
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Found it, thanks!
 
Nice podcast. One point though (nitpicky aren't I) Sasha Shulgin didn't discover MDMA. It was discovered in 1918 or something.

As to whether MDMA is a psychedelic- my experience leads me to think no, simply because while it is 'mind-manifesting', it really only reveals the empathetic side of the mind. A 'true' psychedelic reveals all sides, even the Shadow. I like the term empathogen, or maybe empathodelic (empathy-manifesting????-made that one up :)). Whilst high doses have made me hallucinate, too often I've been taking MDA or rather MDxx instead of proper pure MDMA. The pure experiences tended to be very 'stoning' and relaxing, with a great psychic energy.
 
^^^Yeah, Merck originally synthesized it and thought of using it as an appetite suppressant.

Also, I more or less agree with willow's assessment of MDMA. Even though it definitely has psychedelic properties, they are always subordinate to the other, empathogenic characteristics of the substance.
 
In this fortnights installment of psychonautica, Max Freakout speaks with fellow psychonaut The Seeker on a range of psychedelic topics, such as the pharmaco-dynamics of MDMA, the role of entheogens in spiritual practise, the distinction between synthetic and natural drugs, contaminated pills and the issue of purity with synthetic chemicals. The second half of the conversation can be heard in Psychonautica #16. Finally Max reads out a mushroom trip-report from Kabukisensei, involving loss of separateness and experience of cosmic oneness....

Playlist: DJ Zinc - Casino Royale

Download the podcast here:
http://media.libsyn.com/media/dopecast/Psychonautica015.mp3
 
Very nice listening indeed, been downloading and listening to those on and off all day!

I agree with lots of things you discuss and am really glad you also address the harm reduction issues a lot in the show. I also disagree with some points, but most of them are issues that are up for debate anyway (and you rightfully address them as such).

One particular point I would like to comment on is that I noticed you talk about flashbacks a lot. In my experience, flashbacks are extremely rare (never really known anyone who had them - not speaking of lingering visuals or HPPD of course as those are distinct matters), and I think the fact they are still discussed this much is a lingering result of LSD propaganda (stuck deep down in the subconscious of society today) IMO. The risk of getting flashbacks from psychedelics use is hardly worth mentioning, but still understandable from the viewpoint of harm reduction of course.

Anyhow, all in all, really enjoyable stuff overall, highly recommended, keep 'em coming Max!
 
Recept thankyou very much for that, i know i put a lot of emphasis on flashbacks, this is because i have experienmced them firsthand, and ive also seen them dismissed on many forum discussions as being non-existent, a creation of media propaganda, or an urban legend, and i am keen to stress that this is simply not true, i only had flashbacks for a fairly brief period after one particularly intense trip i had some years ago, but it was enough to convince me that they are very real, and they are a phenomenon well worth talking about, not just to dispel the false beliefs about them, but also because they are fascinating in their own right
 
Flashbacks are not a recurrence of a psychedelic state- they can't be, human metabolism decrees it. Drugs can't and don't reneter the bloodstream creating a 'flashback'. What happens is a stuation has cues in it which remind one the psychedelic trip....I have had 'flashbacks' in the sense that I have 'felt' like I was tripping (particularly salvia and DMT) but its more a PTSD kind of thing. Shell shocked trippers everywhere! Anyway, max I haven't listened yet, but will grab it tonight. Cheers!! :)
 
willow11 said:
Flashbacks are not a recurrence of a psychedelic state- they can't be, human metabolism decrees it. Drugs can't and don't reneter the bloodstream creating a 'flashback'.
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Not necessarily, as DMT and betacarbolines are both endogenous neurotransmitters
 
^ I can't say I really believe that, I know DMT can be synthesized by pineal if conditions are right (or rather, not right), and I wouldn't be surprised if DMT turned out to be responsible for NDE's and alien abduction experiences, but I wouldn't go as far as to call DMT an endogenous neurotransmitter, but rather an accidental byproduct of serotonin/melatonin production.

Whether or not flashbacks are a product of endogenous DMT production, I don't know, I guess it's possible, but I'd wager most of the time they are a result of PTSD.

Edit: I'd also like to point out that I wasn't saying flashbacks were not real, I just think they are extremely rare. But it's perfectly undestandable of course that you're talking about them if you've had first hand experience with them.
 
max_freakout said:
Not necessarily, as DMT and betacarbolines are both endogenous neurotransmitters
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As with bufotenine and 5-meo-DMT- but nothing suggest that a 'flashback' is more then a subjective labelling of a change in inner state. It has NOT been shown that DMT is a neurotrasnmitter; some suggest its simply a meatblotie of seratonin, thus only trace amounts have ever been found. Also- beta-carbolines aren't always psychedelic....and why would a psychedelic drug user make themselves more likely to re-enter a psychedelic DMT state (esp. seeing as MAO would break down excess) if the drug they used wasn't DMT? Why would the body react to psychedelic stress with a psychedelic? Its doesn't make sense....

I do not believe that psychedelic flashbacks are any more real then any symptom of PTSD- most trips are semi-traumatic (in a good way) and any event that leaves a strong mark on the mind is going to be constantly rediscovered because of the new neaural pathways/perspective formed- thus the feeling of re-entering the state. Alas, they are not an exclusive phenomeneom to psychedelics; war, bloodshed, rape will all do it to you.

Incidentally, I have been diagnosed with PTSD-symptoms (not to do with tripping-childhood), and the 'flashbacks' that have occurred to me about my past are similal in content to the psychedelic 'flashbacks' I've had, in that they both feel like something their not. If you believe in your flashbacks, they will haunt you. Trust me. :\
 
Download it here:
http://media31b.libsyn.com/podcasts...33f926/46f78760/dopecast/Psychonautica016.mp3

This episode of psychonautica is the second half of the conversation between Max Freakout and the Seeker from the last episode. They discuss entheogens and spiritual practise, including the state of consciousness brought on by kundalini yoga. Also the differences and similarities between DMT and Salvia Divinorum, including an in depth discussion about the salvia experience, it's effect on time, space and eternity, including comparisons to Buck Rogers and Star trek.

Playlist:
The Chemical Brothers - Psychedelic fuckin'
Morcheeba - Big calm
 
FYI - I added a link to this thread in the Best of PD page. Thanks for your contributions, Max! :)
 
Epısode #17 OUT NOW: :)

In this fortnight's episode of psychonautica, Max Freakout first announces the forthcoming dopecast meetup in Amsterdam, and then addresses a selection of listener emails. The topics which are raised include the difference between a narcotic and a psychedelic in the context of shamanic practise, Mike Hoffman's egodeath theory as a new, 'practically applicable' religion, the relation of the psychedelic insight to the validity of inductive reasoning, the parallels between Terence Mckenna's theories and the egodeath theory, safety precautiions and contraindications of salvia divinorum (including the salvia sleepwalk and the combination of salvia with cannabis), the varieties of ecstasy pill and the potential pitfalls of using a volcano vaporizer to vaporize DMT. Finally, Max reads out a salvia trip report from Ottonomy involving some classic salvia phenomena.

Download the podcast here:
http://media.libsyn.com/media/dopecast/Psychonautica017.mp3

playlist:
J-Dilla - Twister (Huh, what)
Victor Vaughan (aka MF Doom) - Mr Clean

web links:
the seeker's antidrugs meditation link
http://www.kundalini-tantra.com/drugs1.html
pharmacratic inquisition homepage:
http://www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com/main
pharmacratic inquisition on google video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4555365073003895154
 
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