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^^ Welcome to MMORPGs =P

Comparing anything to Lineage 2 is kind of bas though, L2 is a horrible game.

WoW is cool though, I guess. I've just been working with some friends on hacking the game and selling crap online to nerds, havn't even played it much. I'm sick of MMORPGs.
 
World of Warcrack, Evercrack etc are all soul-destroying monsters.

Popular, too! :p
 
One fellow I met has the whole mage thing down-pat: He could pull about 5 or 6 equal-level monsters and kill them all at once (I believe the term is "mob-grinding") using nothing but Frost Nova, Cone of Cold and Arcane Explosion... IMO anyone that can kill stuff that quick has TOO MUCH time on their hands...
 
For Easter day, they hid actual Easter eggs all around the world and had players find them. I only found one

*sigh*

more evidence that this game is nothing but a rip off of every other mmorpg that ever got popular

blizzards mmog basically caters to the gaming industry the same way pop music caters to people who arent really into music.

pls stop wasting your money on WoW and play DAoC, kthxbye. :)

Lineage 2.

possibly the worst mmorpg ever. horrible comparison. the original warcraft 1 was cooler than lineage 2.

The world is absolutely huge!

relatively tiny compared to an actually developed mmorpg. i think eq sucks too, but if you want to see a big world, play eq - the WoW world is about 1/100th the size.

and raw evil - thats what you say right before you say "expect a nerf coming soon..." things like that are impossible to predict when classes are designed. like most mmogs, there will be a year or three of constant nerfage and people bitching about it untill they think its leveled out.
 
who brought the PC its Super Mario Brothers or Legend of Zelda.

assuming you are one of those people that played about 2 pc games back when windows 3.1 was badass, maybe. otherwise all those names are just from successfull companies with good media exposure (not that they are bad by any means!) and certainly by no means the foundation of the pc gaming world...

a speed of adoption never before seen in the MMORPG market.

proof that media exposure obviously denotes the best any given industry has to offer!!! [that was sarcasm]

everything takes place in an ever-changing online world.

the author acts like this is the first mmorpg hes seen. credibility nullified, boo wow.

The result is that finding a repeatable benchmark to run is fairly difficult...but not impossible.

he also obviously hasnt ever played an mmorpg, ever.

As a MMORPG, World of Warcraft doesn't depend on the razor-sharp reaction time of a fast-paced first person shooter ... instead, you spend most of your time walking around performing quests and battling at a much slower pace, in a much larger, more interactive world.

thats, well, because it sucks. the latter half of that sentence translates to: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

boo wow...im going out right now and making a tshirt that just says WOW SUCKS.

(ok it doesnt suck, but fucking ay its getting media exposure out the fucking ass like its the first of its kind!)
 
First let me say that my attention span is waaaay too short for any kind of computer game apart from shooters, biffers or drivers (preferably all 3).

BUT I just visited a friend interstate over the weekend - we chatted on and off while he played WoW. He says he's been hooked on it for 3 months now. Interesting seeing the posts above by 'significant others' of players - I can see how it would be a relationship breaker. My friend justifies his gaming as a break from his normal routine (& he does seem less stressed), plus a roundabout way of learning management skills (he formed a guild).

For me - I just can't get excited about these games - they seem to drain too much from your non-net life. But I'm intrigued with the idea of learning skills in the games that you can apply in the real world - any comments on that from anyone??
 
But I'm intrigued with the idea of learning skills in the games that you can apply in the real world - any comments on that from anyone??

Well, this isn't really an "in game" skill but EverQuest taught me how to program. I had a general idea before that, but it really brought all the concepts of functions and memory and such together for me. Especially reverse engineering.
 
oh well in general all MMORPGs get "crack" appended to their name somehow because it does take over your life kinda like crack. you get to a point where its not so much that you think its exciting in some way, it just becomes a habbit, and eventually an addiction. I think the nick started with Ulticrack but every game like this is called crack. And yes, i have ended relationships because some women actually think they are more important than crack, pffft.
 
I'm surprised I could even find this, it's from awhile ago. Anyway, it's a study about EverQuest and it's relation to the "Skinner Box" used in operant conditioning in psychology.

http://www.nickyee.com/eqt/skinner.html

Basically, when you first start EverQuest, everything is very easy and you're rewarded for little effort. It takes just a minute or two to get to the next level, maybe 20 minutes total to get to level 5. Gradually the progression slows and everything is harder to get.

It's the same behavior thought. At level 1, you kill a rat, and it gives you experience, you kill 5 rats, and you make level 2. You get a new spell, or ability. You're more powerful. You've been rewarded for your behavior (killing 5 rats, even though it was the same every time you did it, you like the reward you got for doing it 5 times).

This basically continues through the entire game, just repetative actions over and over and you're rewarded after awhile. This is how every MMORPG is, there is no "unique" fight or "reason" behind the fight. You just do it because if you do it enough times, you get a new level, more spells, skills, money, power, e-respect (yes, respect from other players is a big thing in these games).

Essentially playing a MMORPG is no different than a rat touching a green button to get food, and a red button which gives a shock. In EQ you kill stuff over and over, bored out of your mind, you get the levels as rewards. If you don't kill stuff over and over, your friends progress past you, you find you have nothing else to do really, and it upsets you that everyone is outleveling you and "passing you up".

http://www.nickyee.com/hub/addiction/home.html

Oh, here's another page. It focuses mainly on MMORPG addiction across the board, I'd read it now but class is starting and they installed a program that let's teachers see everyone's screen, and I don't want to get caught like this guy yesterday did (looking at japanese anime porn).
 
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everquest is totally lame and gay. i had 12 friends who were the GMs and officers of one of the biggest guilds on one of the biggest servers, and thus ive seen just about everything you can possibly do in eq. i would make fun of the game for being so lame on a consistent basis, and they were convinced that there was no life after eq (except for eq2). this got to the point that they bought me a free account for a year, and i still thought it was terrible. it was like playing a game that was a chore.

eq is the lamest of the lame. at least wow is funny cuz its warcraft cheese. eq is just like ... well ... what Kul69 said.

This is how every MMORPG is, there is no "unique" fight or "reason" behind the fight. You just do it because if you do it enough times, you get a new level, more spells, skills, money, power, e-respect (yes, respect from other players is a big thing in these games).

not even remotely true on even the slightest level. Not even everquest is that bad dude. Damn man DS:O (how many people remember that?? 100$ says im the only one!) wasnt even that basic, and that shit came on 3.5" floppys. Hell RPG MUDs back in the day even had more depth than that description. You sound like some nublet that got owned at like level 7 10 million times and said it was sony's fault and canceled your eq account.

Essentially playing a MMORPG is no different than a rat touching a green button to get food, and a red button which gives a shock.

in the mmog vein, stfu nub.

eq might be lame (wow might have it beat tho since wow is pretty much a replica of an eq faction war server, and ripping off a lame game = lame^2 (lame squared) and by ripping off, i mean they did it to a 'T', minas well have just jacked the source code and made diffferent artwork). I will admit tho that its a trillion times more involved than what you are stating, and therefore you have no comparison for its lameness. But basically what you are saying is a game liek professional football is just some fat dudes tossing a ball at some skinny dudes head and hoping he catches it and there is absolutely nothing more to it whatsoever.

neither of those titles in any way whatsoever represent the mmorpg genere, nor its community.
 
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oh well in general all MMORPGs get "crack" appended to their name somehow because it does take over your life kinda like crack. you get to a point where its not so much that you think its exciting in some way, it just becomes a habbit, and eventually an addiction.

You're gonna say that then respond with how exciting MMORPGs are? Alrighty.

i had 12 friends who were the GMs and officers of one of the biggest guilds on one of the biggest servers

This is just a lie, because GMs are programmers for SOE, and if you meant guides then you can't even guide on your own server.

not even remotely true on even the slightest level.

What all can I do in a MMORPG that isn't repetative? (other than PvP) I could, kill the same monsters over and over (or wander around, killing different monsters over and over, but it's exactly the same except how it looks). I could, "trade skill" which involves clicking a button over and over again essentially. The've tried to make this more interesting but it's essentially the same thing.

I'll agree that raiding is a unique experience, but that is a very rare occurance for most players, only the highest end guilds raid all the time (and they got there by wasting days and days killing the same things over and over)

You sound like some nublet that got owned at like level 7 10 million times and said it was sony's fault and canceled your eq account.

Yes, and this picture isn't me turning myself into a GM.

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Oh, and this isn't a picture of me making an entire level in one fight. (This was actually exciting, but required cheats to use, EQ wouldn't let you have fun like this without cheating)

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This one obviously isn't a picture of me flying somehow.

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This couldn't be a macro that used to make 50,000pp an hour (in other words, 50,000pp X 2 hours = $40 an hour for doing nothing, then wrap your mind around the fact that I had three computers running 4 accounts, and this wasn't even the best macro, one made 1,000,000pp an hour which is when SOE finally stepped in and started fixing things, you do the math on how much money that is)

http://fileup.serveftp.com/hosted/makeplat.txt

neither of those titles in any way whatsoever represent the mmorpg genere, nor its community.

They just happen to be the most popular, right? Cause people like the lamest games in the world according to you, they don't play these "secret" games that are so involved that you know about.

You have been officially pwned on every level. Thanks.

Ask someone who has never played a MMORPG to watch someone leveling in EverQuest or WoW or whatever MMORPG you want to pick, they'll say, "Wow.. that looks really boring". You find it enjoyable because of the reward you get out of investing your life.

MMORPGs are a way for people with no lives to feel like they're accomplishing something that matters (at least for serious MMORPG players, casual players tend to walk around exploring and other such things, because they havn't experienced the world yet, most serious players have seen it all)
 
guildmasters dood, rofl what the fuck how the hell do you not know what a GM is??? no one calls people from the respective companies game masters anymore they are pretty much all called CSRs now. game master was the term coined from the old LARP games like AD&D, vamps, WW, etc.

They just happen to be the most popular, right?

ever looked at the most popular TV shows? the most popular music? the most popular fashions?

G A R B A G E

I diddnt say ppl like the lamest games in the world. I said the fact that typically that which is most popular caters to society en masse. I could come up with analogies all day, this is like you coming to america, eating a hot dog, and saying american food sucks. btw if you make a comment like "secret" games you totally are just showing your ignorance.

dude id love to discuss this seriously but no one on the board gives a shit. i wasnt tryint to pick a fight either but im just saying im as old school a gamer as they come, i know what im talking about. I played games like this LOOONG before there was an electronic implimentation of any sort.

What all can I do in a MMORPG that isn't repetative?

id say you obviously havent played one if you say that, but then i saw the screen shots, and it seems like your only exposure is freaking everquest? dude like i said above thats like judging all the music in the world based on a backstreet boys song.

I'll agree that raiding is a unique experience, but that is a very rare occurance for most players, only the highest end guilds raid all the time (and they got there by wasting days and days killing the same things over and over)

you either were one of those people that joined the nubletist guilds possible, or simply diddnt play enough, or you played eq. all three are pretty equivalent. eq sucks dude that was my whole post u cant compare anything based on that shit game. its not evercrack its ever grind. yah, if you have never seen anything like that before, then yeah im sure it might be cool at first. if youve never seen anything outside of it, im sure you might think its the best too.

oh and a side note, the reason for me stating that i was affiliated with one of the biggest guilds in all of EQ and also was personal friends with some of the officers, was that i can nullify the argument that EQs raids are interesting. Every time i have this convo, someone says "you must have never gone on any real raids..." to which I reply, there are none. Mob AI consists of: Mob with infinetly huge hit point pool, endless power pool, and stats so rediculous you would crap your pants if you got a look at them. The raids are about as difficult as getting a crapton of people and making them hack and slash a big giant thing with 20 billion constitution. eq's epic raids are so lame they are funny. shti ive seen games with way more advanced AI on the simplest aspects.

yah sony is real fucking creative, "THIS NEW EXPANSION WILL ADD 5 MORE LEVELS ON WOW HOLY SHIT!" SO DOES THE NEXT AND NEXT AND NEXT ONE. damn it i fucking hate eq i had to have this convo with my friends over and over again and they just wouldnt listen.

also based on your above post you are a nub that likes to hack and exploit. people liek you ruin mmorpgs and force programmers to endure even longer, sleepless work hours to stop terds like that from exploiting the system and doing the exact opposite of what the game was intended for (also destroying the economy and ruinging it overall for everyone else). then again what am i saying i was probably the 2nd or 3rd biggest unbanned grief player Origin Systems Inc ever saw...

MMORPGs are a way for people with no lives to feel like they're accomplishing something that matters (at least for serious MMORPG players, casual players tend to walk around exploring and other such things, because they havn't experienced the world yet, most serious players have seen it all)

not true dude, are you like 17 or something? why in the hell would you get so heated over something like this?

Ask someone who has never played a MMORPG to watch someone leveling in EverQuest or WoW or whatever MMORPG you want to pick, they'll say, "Wow.. that looks really boring". You find it enjoyable because of the reward you get out of investing your life.

the average person isnt a gamer. the "average" gamer probably doesnt even own a pc (and by my definition not a gamer). The "average" pc gamer probably doesnt even have the attention span to play unreal tournament anymore. That sentance made no sense, its like saying reading a book is pointless cuz it doesnt take you on a triple loop roller coaster.

pls stop trying to argue man every single thing you are saying makes it crystal clear obvious you dont know what you are talking about. im not arguing because this has anything to do with you, im arguing because i dont want people to read this and get the wrong impression of what these games are about (assuming people care).

pm me and ill link you to the greatist game of all time if you are a fantasy rpg fan. also consider the point: this genere may not be for you! some people like country, some people like rock and roll dude.

while were on the subject, heres a new one that looks both interesting and a nice challenge to all its competition. made by a small but highly respectable company, and if you mention SWG to any degree after looking at this link i will cram my Legendary Quality Elemental 2 Hander straight through your MP Hauberk.

http://www.imperatoronline.com/

based on this company's previous works, id say this one should be killer (especially since there hasnt really been a successfull scifi mmorpg yet)
 
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^^ I wasn't upset at all, just responding, you sounded like you were the one upset =P

Anyway, I'm gonna PM you, cause I'm interested in what MMORPGs you're into, taking it to PM.
 
I bought WoW when it came out. I'm still playing it these days, but I'm only halfway to the level cap.

What time I have for recreation is mostly chewed up by my girlfriend (2 nights a week), practicing guitar and bass (30 minutes to 1 hour a night), gym (1 hour a night) and study.

That means WoW has been a tremendous value for me. I'm still discovering new places in the world I've never been, and there's tons of content if you don't powerlevel like a mad idiot, wasting the game experience in the rush to the top.

The game really starts when you get to level 60 (capped).

See... this kind of statement usually comes from somebody who complains about a lack of high level content.

The bulk of the game happens under the level cap. And there's a lot of it.

But a lot of... well, twits... would rather find a place where the right level of monsters spawn and just repetitively kill them until they advance enough to do the same to higher level monsters elsewhere.

The game is about exploration as well as leveling, and lots of people forget this.

I play about two nights in a week, a couple hours at a time. Lots of people I know play it for lots of hours a night, usually at the expense of the rest of their lives... your mileage may vary.
 
na i wasnt upset just had been awake for about 6 days straight. i think even typing that last night some of the words were floating off of the screen. i wasnt really directing anything in those posts at you, but rather anyone that would wander into this thread that is as nerdy as us. simply because your opinions reflect a hell of a lot of peoples opinions, and the problem is because of peterskos second quote i have below - people forget what mmorpgs are about! thats how the crackhead-rat with the button mentality forms.

The game really starts when you get to level 60 (capped).

most mmorpgs are like that tho. its not like the whole game's focus is to get that high, but its a hell of a lot more fun (in any game) to be maxed level than not. it provides a much bigger range of windows of opportunity to choose from.

also a game as new as WoW isnt going to have a lot of high level content. most games dont hit their prime of development till about a year or two after release.

The game is about exploration as well as leveling, and lots of people forget this.

that happens in every single game ever. its all the nubs that started gaming in the PC world. thats also why in every mrpg i play i always play on the RP servers, not that im a RPer, but you dont have the little twitty dorks that ruin the game like that.

however i GUARANTEE you wow goes and copies DAoC as far as high level content. the new trend is going to become not expansion of levels, but expansions of your toon once you get to the higher end of levels. (liek DAoCs master level system, artifact system, Realm Rank system, etc). Id almost bet money on it that WoW implements that and tries to pull it off as something new.
 
pffft u should play the games and see

people on them have the amazing ability to put entire sentences into acronyms

its really cute when people outside of the gaming world start using them too.

i cant wait untill someone on bl starts saying something like "omg i was wtfpwned by a zerg of trolls!"
 
I just started playing this game today... omg im so not an online gamer and this is first time ive ever played anything online. Im so fully addicted.
My back hurts, I been sitting on the computer since 3.30pm and its now... 12.30am ;)
Yay! WoW rocks.
Fark all you jaded peeps, its all fun and games.. just smile!
 
haha yes this game is brilliant. I bought it when it came out, collectors edition and all. Had a warrior, go to lvl23, then got sick of it, then started a pali, got to lvl 35, then got sick of, because nobody would group with me to do quests i wanted to, i always helped others, but it never came around.

Took like a 7 month break from it, started at warrior, on the new(ish) server of Frosmourne, currently lvl 36, name is blitztek. Have a ball this time around, lots of mates all start at the same time and im in a huge guild, and people are very friendly on this server.
 
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