common steroid names and explanations

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Someone made a great recommendation and said that we needed a post that explains some of the usual names and abreviations for commonly known steroids.

First off we have testosterone, which can be with no ester, called testosterone suspension or testosterone no ester. It can come in either water (suspension) or in oil (no ester). It is called a suspension because the testosterone powder will not disolve in the water, it is only suspended in it. This means that you will have to shake up testosterone suspension before using it, to make sure that you get the correct concentration. Testosterone can also be with an ester, which is used to increase the active life of the drug and increase its lipid solubility. The longer the ester, the longer the active life and better the lipid (oil) solubility. Some common esters used with testosterone are propionate (3 day life), cypionate (5-6 day life), enanthate (6 day life), and deconate (10 day life). It is best to inject testosterone propionate at least every other day, cypionate and enanthate at least once a week but twice a week is better, and deconate every week. Since testosterone suspenion has no ester, its active life is very short and it should be injected at least every day, and some do twice a day shots. Testosterone products usually come in concentrations of 50mg/100mg/200mg/250mg per milliliter (ml). Some underground products though have come in concentrations up to 700mg per ml. There are also some products that combine testosterone esters to allow less shots, and a more even blood level. Some of these products are sustanon, durateston, and omnadren. They combine testosterone propionate, phenylpropionate, isocaporate, and deconate for a total concentration of 250mg per ml. These combination products are very popular, but they can also be expensive compared to one ester products unless you have a good source.

Next is nandrolone which is less androgenic than testosterone, but more anabolic. It usually comes as a product with two possible esters. The first ester is phenylpropionate, which has an active life of 4 days, but should be injected every other day. Nandrlone phenylpropionate can come come in concentrations from 25mg per ml to 200mg per ml. The next product, is nandrolone deconate, also known as deca. This is by far the most popular steroid among new users, but not the most effective at all. The deconate ester has a very long life and can be injected once a week. Nandrolone deconate can come in contrations from 50mg per ml to 200mg per ml, although some underground companies have a deca product that can be up to 500mg per ml. There is also a lesser known nandrolone cypionate, but the same recommendations for testosterone cypionate would follow.

Then there is equipoise, known as the chemical name boldenone. The undecylenate ester is the most commonly used with boldenone and is one of the longest used in modern steroids, so that means that the steroid has a very long active life. Equipoise could be injected once a week, or even less, but until recently it was usually injected every other day because it only came in a 25mg and 50mg per ml concetration in oil. Since equipoise is only a vetrinary steroid, there was no reason to make a more concentrated product. Some companies have now made an equipoise product that is 100mg/200mg per ml in response to bodybuilders needs. Some undergound companies have even made products up to 500mg per ml. This has made it possible to only inject equipoise once or twice a week to achieve a good doseage. Some underground companies have noticed that people liked equipoise, but they wanted a shorter acting product, so they started to make a boldenone acetate and boldenone propionate product. Theser products generally come in 100 to 200mg per ml and are very good products.

Then there is winstrol, chemical name stanozolol. This is the famous steroid that ben johnson tested positive for in the 1988 olympics in seoul, south korea. This is a highly anabolic and moderately androgenic steroid. Winstrol is available usually as a vetrinary product in 50mg and 100mg per ml concentrations as a suspension in water, just like testosterone suspension. It is a 17 alpha alkylated product, which means that it will bypass the first pass metabolism in the liver, which would eliminate the steroid without it. This also makes it toxic to the liver and usage of 17 alpha alkylated products should be limited in dosage and length. Winstrol is also made as a human drug in 2mg tabs for a certain kind of edema, but it is rarely used. It is also made in tabs in 5/10/25/50mg dosages by other companies. The best winstrol product is made by the spanish company, Zambon. It is a 50mg per ml suspension in an ampoule and is considered to be the most accurately dosed product available. Stanozolol has close to a 12 hour half life so twice a day oral dosages or every day injections are good. One important fact is that you can drink the injectable winstrol and it will be the exact same as injecting it. The one advantage to injecting stanozolol is due to the site enhancement properties that some have said that it has.

Another popular steroid is dianabol, chemical name methandrostenolone. It is probably the second most popular steroid and was the first made in the USA, by the company CIBA. It is a very strong androgenic and anabolic drug that is known for very big gains in a short time. It is known to cause massive water retention, due to its aromatizing to estrogen. It usually comes in 5mg tabs, although it can come in 10mg/25mg/50mg tabs. It has a very short half life of 4 hours, so dosing is usually at least three times a day. It can come as an injectable in oil or propylene glycol at 25mg-50mg per ml, although this isnt a very popular product. It is 17 alpha alkylated so oral dosing is possible, and you can drink the injectable product or inject it every day. This also means that it is liver toxic though.

One more popular steroid is oxandrolone, known as anavar or oxandrin. Oxandrolone is a highly anabolic low androgenic oral steroid that is 17 alpha alkylated. It comes in tabs from 2.5mg up to 50mg. The brand name, anavar, was used by the drug company searle, but they stopped making this product more than ten years ago and the only US manufacturer of oxandrolone is BTG under the name oxandrin. The chemical itself is one of the more expensive steroids, so the tabs are also much more expensive than the cheaper chemicals like methandrostenolone or stanozolol. The gains from oxandrolone arent big, as it can not aromatize to estrogen, but they are of high quality. Oxandrolone tabs are available from many vetrinary and overseas companies, but you have to sure of your source. The cost of oxandrolone is so great, that some companies will switch the tabs to a cheaper tab, such as dianabol, and you will never know since you will still gain some muscle. There really isnt any way around this other than a gas chromatograph test, or to be sure of your source. It is available as an injectable product from some underground companies, and you can drink the injectable or inject it every day. Oxandrolone has a half life of around twleve hours so twice a day dosing is good.

Another popular steroid is anadrol, chemical name oxymetholone. Oxymetholone is probably the most powerful steroid available commonly and the gains from it are very big. it is a highly androgenic and highly anabolic steroid. It will cause a lot of water retention so you must deal with it, or take other precautions to deal with that. It is an oral 17 alpha alkylated steroid that almost always comes in 50mg tabs, although 25mg, 75mg, and 100mg tabs do exist. It is available in the US under the name anadrol 50, from the company unimed, although this is rarely seen on the black market. Many countries make a high quality oxymetholone product and a few are hemogenin from brazil and anapolan from turkey. It is very toxic to the liver and dosage and length of time used should be limited. It is one of the few steroids that can produce a huge increase in the hematocrit level, or the cells that carry oxygen in the body. This can make the user feel very energetic and increase aerobic capacity and have increased vascularity, but this also means that the users blood will be thicker and their blood pressure will be higher. Some users have said that anadrol blunts their appetite, which means that it might be useful as a dieting drug for some. It could be used as an injectable, but very few underground companies make an injectable oxymetholone product. The halflife of oxymetholone is around 12 hours, so twice a day dosing is good.

Another very popular steroid is trenbolone. It is 19 nor testosterone based, and is chemically related to nandrolone. It was first produced by the french company negma, as the injectable parabolan, with the chemical trenbolone hexyhydrobenzylcarbonate. Although there is still some controversey over this, negma stopped producing parabolan in 1992, so dont expect to find any and even if you did, it would be very weak now from being stored so long. Next some underground companies started product finaject, or finabolan, which was trenbolone acetate. This didnt last long and bodybuilders didnt have a way to get trenbolone for a long time. Someone then figured out how to extract the trenbolone acetate, from a legal cow impant used for increased growth. This made it almost legal, and very easy, to get and make trenbolone acetate. Trenbolone is a highly androgenic and highly anabolic drug, but it can not aromatize to estrogen so the gains arent huge from it, but are very hard. Trenbolone acetate usually comes in concentrations from 75mg to ml to 200mg per ml. The acetate ester is one of the shortest known, so it is best to inject every day or every other day. To avoid this, some underground companies have started to produce trenbolone enanthate. This allows users to inject once or twice a week and still get the benefits of trenbolone. The products usually come in oil, although it is possible to use trenbolone in water. Some companies also produce a trenbolone suspension product, which is very good, but has to be injected at least daily. Trenbolone will give a very hard and vascular look, which is one of the reasons that it is popular with dieting bodybuilders. It is also one of the few steroids that also has a direct effect on cortisol and fat loss.

Another commonly used steroid is primobolan, chemical name methanolone. It is a highly anabolic and low androgenic drug. It used to be available as an injectable in both acetate and enanthate esters, although only the enanthate ester is produced now from the company schering. Some underground companies have now produced shorter acting esters with methanolone, including acetate. It is available as an oral product as well, usually in 5mg and 25mg tabs, and they are not 17 alpha alkylated so liver toxicity is not an issue. The oral methanolone typically needs a dose of at least 100mg per day to be effective, and this can get expensive, so most people use the injectable. The concentration from the methanolone product by schering, primobolan, comes in 50mg and 100ml per ml ampoules. This steroid will not aromatize to estrogen and will not give big gains, but the gains will be very lean gains. This is one steroid that will not cause very many side effects unless the dosage is very high, and this makes it very popular among people who do not want to use more androgenic drugs. Methanolone is another steroid that is expensive comparitively, so many fakes are made. Some of the fakes are very good and it is very hard to tell them apart from the real product. It is best not to buy primobolan unless you are very sure of your source.


It is good to also not that with the longer acting products more of the concentration is the weight of the ester, so you are getting less steroid per ml then with a shorter acting product. This can be seen by comparing the ester weights of testosterone propionate and testosterone enanthate and the no ester product testosterone suspension.

With a 200mg shot of each, test suspension will give 200mg of test, test prop will give around 175mg of test and test enanthate will give around 150mg. This means that after you account for the ester, which does nothing in the body, you are getting less steroid with the longer acting products. You dont have to inject as often with the longer acting products though, so it is a trade off of what you want. The ester weight difference generally will not make a huge difference until you are around the 750mg-1000mg a week dosage. This is true for all injectable steroids as well.

There are many other steroids that are available and I will add them in if someone wants, but since they arent that popular, I will leave it at just these for now. If someone wants to add something, please feel free to. Thanks
 
ive got sum pills n my m8 says they r anabol not dynabol but ''stronger than dynabol'' or so my m8 says they r like purple hexagons wiv a little alien dude on them r they wot ive been told or is my m8 chattin shit?
 
your "m8" is a dumbshit.

and though I'm no expert, I highly doubt that any steroids would have a "little alien dude" on them.
 
Cheque Drops

Ive seen this floating around from place to place. Perhaps from the anabolics 2004 but I cannot say who the original author is for sure. hope it helps you.

On another note I know several guys who have used cheque drops and not one of them says they will use them again. The severe increase in aggresion was not worth the gains. The toxicity had a factor as well, unfortunately none of them had any bloodwork done on the drug so exact liver values etc are still unknown...at least to me.

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Pharmaceutical Name: Mibolerone
Chemical structure: 7-alpha, 17-alpha-dimethyl-19Nor-androst-4-en-3-one,17b-ol
Molecular weight of base: 302.4558


This is without a doubt THE most powerful steroid that was ever commercially marketed. Its androgenic potency is slightly less than that of methyltrienolone, but it can still aromatize, adding the benefits of estrogen as well. Unfortunately the only product it was ever marketed as never fully exploited the potential of this drug. It was delivered in microgram amounts in liquid droppers, the intent being to add a few drops to the food of female dogs in heat to keep them under control. Human athletes used a few drops under the tongue before a sporting event or training to increase their aggression levels, but noted little or no anabolic effect from this drug because it was so lowly dosed. Not that there was much room for high doses, because even in these low amounts using it longer than 2 or 3 weeks on end seemed to seriously compromise your liver. Just to demonstrate quite how toxic the compound mibolerone was to humans.

If it was free and safe to use orally, just 5 mg per day would probably give you more anabolic effect than a high-dose stack of several of the strongest products out there. It wasn't that far in potency from methyltrienolone. It possessed the same androgenic binding of trenbolone, even more so because its affinity for binding structures was even more reduced due to its 17-alpha-alkylation. But unlike methyltrienolone, it still allowed for aromatization to testosterone, enhanced by the progestagenic effect that all 19nor compounds seem to possess, which only further enhanced the extreme anabolic effect of mibolerone. Unfortunately because of its 17-alpha-alkylation it also rivaled methyltrienolone (metribolone) in liver toxicity, making it completely unsafe to even use 5 mg a day without killing yourself short term. A much better choice in that regard would have been trestolone (MENT), which is the same as Mibolerone but doesn't possess the toxic 17-alpha-methyl group. Sadly enough, MENT was never commercially marketed despite its well documented use as a male contraceptive (same for Mibolerone as well by the way).

But bodybuilders and other athletes had to make do with low-dosed cheque drops to increase activity. Nonetheless they enjoyed a great popularity. Mostly owed to the late Steroid guru Dan Duchaine. This was one of his many obscure (and usually dangerous) discoveries. The same person that discovered DNP, and extremely hazardous and powerful fatburner. Oddly enough cheque drops were more popular outside of bodybuilding. Boxers, football players and martial artists who fought full contact particularly had a fondness of this product and used it to enhance aggression prior to an important match with great success. It wasn't seldom that when a particularly aggressive incident occurred in boxing, that it was rumoured Mibolerone was the real culprit.

But even that didn't last, cheque drops have all but disappeared and I have yet to come across a legit one, or even an empty packaging from a legit one a long time ago. Which would illustrate what a dinosaur cheque drops have become in such a short time. But for those who really look around, they are still out there and I believe in some countries still used in veterinary medicine. So if you want it bad enough, but like I said, its impossible to use it to its full capacity, so its probably a waste to pursue anyway.

Stacking and Use:

Because its extremely toxic in higher doses and cannot be used longer than 2 weeks on end, there really isn't much to stack with cheque drops. A user will opt to take but a few drops sublingually (under the tongue) prior to an event for which he requires and increase in energy and aggression. But because here too there is the risk of natural testosterone suppression, cheque drops are best used during a cycle with other anabolic steroids. In this nature it stacks with literally everything however, and is both suited for use during bulking as well as cutting, eventhough it doesn't have a direct influence on either.

Because it's a non-aromatizing steroid that cannot be used longer than two weeks, the post-cycle use of clomid or Nolvadex is not required. Natural test will only partially be suppressed and should bounce back. If as advised you stacked it with a longer cycle of other steroids, its imperative that you still run them because of these other steroids, not so much for the cheque drops. For those prone to hypertension the use of an anti-hypertensive agent like Catapresan would be advised however. No other ancillaries should be required with this agent.
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^thx dude. I'm mainly looking into them to increase aggression during football games, I've heard that a couple sublingual drops before a sporting event gets you aggressive as fuck...
 
Again trep covered this topic very well before I even knew it was here. I dont even know if cheque drops are still produced by upjohn though, as there are more effective and less toxic drugs to keep female dogs from going in to heat, as that is the vetrinary use for the drug.

My opinion is that if you want some aggression, use some halotestin at 20-40mg a day a few days or a week before an event.
 
ledom said:
Heard that also. Something fuels him. Scary.

yes, apparently he is taken off his anti-depreseants and anti-pscyhotics days before the fight... the cheque drops is another thing i've heard.
I've got some of the shit but I'm not planning on EVer trying it out8o
 
dizstruxshon said:
ive got sum pills n my m8 says they r anabol not dynabol but ''stronger than dynabol'' or so my m8 says they r like purple hexagons wiv a little alien dude on them r they wot ive been told or is my m8 chattin shit?


You mean these...

Put this picture to use if you see his tabs, so you can identify if theyre counterfeit fakes or legit.
 

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Also, id like to see an explanation and information on oral turinabol, might not be common and no one ever speaks of it but I got 200 tabs to put to use :)
 
It is good that british dragon is starting to make tabs that are in weird shapes, like hearts and that square H looking thing for the turinabol, and I am sure there are more, so they are harder and more expensive to fake. The more expensive the drug is to fake, the less likely it will be faked. Hopefully these will help to as many fakes off the market as possible.



OK, oral turniabol, ahh

Pharmaceutical Name: Turanabol

Chemical name: chlordehydromethyltestosterone


Turanabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's for the east german block olympic team. This drug wasnt tested for, and I dont think any steroid was tested for until later anyways. It was very popular among women athletes, who could get the benefit of a high anabolic, moderate androgenic drug that could not aromotize, and usually didnt cause masculization if the dose was kept low. When the East German womens swim team from the 64 and 68 olympics sued the government for making them take a drug to increase performance, but also caused masculization, this is the drug they were taking. The drug was never approved for medical use in the US, mainly because at that time there were already five steroids for use in medicine (anavar, dianabol, anadrol, winstrol, and the not well known maxibolan) and it didnt possess many qualities that couldnt be matched by the available drugs. It can not aromotize to estrogen, or very little, and it can not reduce to DHT or any other weaker dihydro metabolite, so very little water retention and hair loss, and other estrogen and DHT related side effects arent common. The detection time for this drug is less than 2 weeks, so it would be popular with athletes if more producers made it. The drug is 17 alpha alkylated, so liver toxicity is an issue, but it doesnt have the same toxicity of other drugs like dianabol or anadrol. The gains from turinabol are usually of very good quality and are retained well after the cycle, with a proper post cycle plan. The usual dose of oral turinabol is 15-60mg with 45-50mg a day being the usual for experienced users. There were very few companies making oral turinabol for a long time, but at least two companies produce it now and it is gaining popularity.

Maybe I can add more later.
 
Good stuff alph. Ive never heard of Maxibolan either, thats a new one to me, and I thought I knew all the rare orals like mestanolone and furazabol... have you any information at all in regards to maxibolan? Im always curious.
 
OK, maxibolan is chemically a progestin and its chemical name is ethylestrenol. It is derived from nortestosterone, so problems with progesterone are possible. It can not aromotize to estrogen and it will reduce to a form of DHN (dihydronandrlone) which is much less androgenic than DHT so it wont have much of the effects from DHT like hair loss, prostate problems, and acne. It came in 2mg tabs in the US, and its main medical purpose was for women with osteoperosis, as it was one of the few low androgen steroids that would increase bone recalcification greatly. As far as anabolic effects, it was VERY weak, even for women. Women usually needed 20-30mg a day for effect and men would need at least double that, and even then it was weak. Before he died, paul borreson had a product called nitrotain, and this was just maxibolan in paste form. They used it at very big doses like 400mg a day, and they liked it. The drug is 17 alpha alkylated, so toxicity is an issue, but that really isnt a problem unless you take huge doses for long periods of time. It isnt produced much in the world at all now, as other steroids that do a whole range of things are available now.

You mention furuzabol. Did you know that it is available in japan by prescription to lower cholesterol.
 
Ya so I heard it had cholesterol benefits. Its also a DHT derivative steroid I beleive is it not?

I know IP sells it... not that id ever trust him. And before QFS got busted the owner was considering investing in bringing it to the canadian UG scene.
 
Active Life: 8-12 hours
Drug Class: Anabolic/Androgenic Steroid (Oral)
Average Dose: Men 20-50 mg/day......Women 5-15 mg/day
Acne: Only in higher doses
Water Retention: Rare
High Blood Pressure: Rare
Liver Toxic: Yes, c17-alfa-alkylated steroid. Due to low doses, toxicity is low to medium
Aromatization: None
DHT Conversion: Low
Decrease HPTA function: Dose depandant


Anavar was the old U.S. brand name for the oral steroid oxandrolone, first produced in 1964 by the drug manufacturer Searle. It was designed as an extremely mild anabolic, one that could even be safely used as a growth stimulant in children. One immediately thinks of the standard worry, "steroids will stunt growth". But it is actually the excess estrogen produced by most steroids that is the culprit, just as it is the reason why women stop growing sooner and have a shorter average stature than men. Oxandrolone will not aromatize, and therefore the anabolic effect of the compound can actually promote linear growth. Women usually tolerate this drug well at low doses, and at one time it was prescribed for the treatment of osteoporosis. As the opinions surrounding steroids began to change in the 1980's, prescriptions for oxandrolone began to drop. Lagging sales probably led Searle to discontinue manufacture in 1989, and it had vanished from U.S. pharmacies until recently. Oxandrolone tablets are again available inside the U.S. by BTG, bearing the new brand name Oxandrin. BTG purchased rights to the drug from Searle and it is now manufactured for the new purpose of treating HIV/AIDS related wasting syndrome.

Anavar is a mild anabolic with low androgenic activity. Its reduced androgenic activity is due to the fact that it is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Although one might think that this would make it a more androgenic steroid, it in fact creates a steroid that is less androgenic because it is already "5-alpha reduced". In other words, it lacks the capacity to interact with the 5-alpha reductase enzyme and convert to a more potent "dihydro° form. It is a simple matter of where a steroid is capable of being potentiated in the body, and with oxandrolone we do not have the same potential as testosterone, which is several times more active in androgen responsive tissues compared to muscle tissue due to its conversion to DHT. It essence oxandrolone has a balanced level of potency in both muscle and androgenic target tissues such as the scalp, skin and prostate. This is a similar situation as is noted with Primobolan and Winstrol, which are also derived from dihydrotestosterone yet not known to be very androgenic substances.

This steroid works well for the promotion of strength and duality muscle mass gains, although it's mild nature makes it less than ideal for bulking purposes. Among bodybuilders it is most commonly used during cutting phases of training when water retention is a concern. The standard dosage for men is in the range of 20-50mg per day, a level that should produce noticeable results. It can be further combined with anabolics like Primobolan and Winstrol to elicit a harder, more defined look without added water retention. Such combinations are very popular and can dramatically enhance the show physique. One can also add strong non-aromatizing androgens like Halotestin, Proviron or trenbolone. In this case the androgen really helps to harden up the muscles, while at the same time making conditions more favorable for fat reduction. Some athletes do choose to incorporate oxandrolone into bulking stacks, but usually with standard bulking drugs like testosterone or Dianabol. The usual goal in this instance is an additional gain of strength, as well as more quality look to the androgen bulk. Women who fear the masculinizing effects of many steroids would be quite comfortable using this drug, as this is very rarely seen with low doses. Here a daily dosage of 5mg should illicit considerable growth without the noticeable androgenic side effects of other drugs. Eager females may wish to addition mild anabolics like Winstrol, Primobolan or Durabolin. When combined with such anabolics, the user should notice faster, more pronounced muscle-building effects, but may also increase the likelihood of androgenic buildup.

Studies using low dosages of this compound note minimal interferences with natural testosterone production. Likewise when it is used alone in small amounts there is typically no need for ancillary drugs like Clomid/Nolvadex or HCG. This has a lot to do with the fact that it does not convert to estrogen, which we know has an extremely profound effect on endogenous hormone production. Without estrogen to trigger negative feedback, we seem to note a higher threshold before inhibition is noted. But at higher dosages of course, a suppression of natural testosterone levels will still occur with this drug as with any anabolic/androgenic steroid and therefore require post cycle therapy to restore the HPTA.

Anavar is also a 17alpha alkylated oral steroid, carrying an alteration that will put stress on the liver. It is important to point out however that dispite this alteration oxandrolone is generally very well tolerated. While liver enzyme tests will occasionally show elevated values, actual damage due to this steroid is not usually a problem. Bio-Technology General states that oxandrolone is not as extensively metabolized by the liver as other l7aa orals are; evidenced by the fact that nearly a third of the compound is still intact when excreted in the urine. This may have to do with the understood milder nature of this agent (compared to other l7aa orals) in terms of hepatotoxicity. One study comparing the effects of oxandrolone to other agents including as methyltestosterone, norethandrolone, fluoxymesterone and methAndriol clearly supports this notion. Here it was demonstrated that oxandrolone causes the lowest sulfobromophthalein (BSP; a marker of liver stress) retention among all the alkylated orals tested. 20mg of oxandrolone in fact produced 72% less BSP retention than an equal dosage of fluoxyrnesterone, which is a considerable difference being that they possess the same liver-toxic alteration. With such findings, combined with the fact that athletes rarely report trouble with this drug, most feel comfortable believing it to be much safer to use during longer cycles than most of other orals with this distinction. Although this may very well be true, the chance of liver damage still cannot be excluded, especially with hogher dosages.

At one time oxandrolone was also looked at as a possible drug for those suffering from disorders of high cholesterol or triglycerides. Early studies showed it to be capable of lowering total cholesterol and triglyceride values in certain types of hyperlipidemic patients, which initially this was thought to signify potential for this drug as a hypo-lipid (lipid lowering) agent. With further investigation we find however that while use of this drug can be linked to a lowering of total cholesterol values, it is such that a redistribution in the ratio of good (HDL) to bad (LDL) cholesterol occurs, usually moving values in an unfavorable direction. This would of course negate any positive effect that the drug might have on triglycerides or total cholesterol, and in fact make it a danger in terms of cardiac risk when taken for prolonged periods of time. Today we understand that as a group anabolic/androgenic steroids produce very unfavorable changes in lipid profiles, and are really not useful in disorders of lipid metabolism. As an oral c17 alpha alkylated steroid, oxandrolone is probably even more risky to use than an injectable esterified injectable such as a testosterone or nandrolone in this regard.
 
Sphinx said:
I know IP sells it... not that id ever trust him.

I've never had a bad experience with IP. Of course I've only bought tretinoin cream from him, but still, it's always worked out just fine...
 
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