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AL-LAD (?) -- First Experience -- My first real taste of Al-LAD

arcarsenal

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Had my first real taste of Al-LAD

So by some very strange quirks of life, it seems that quite recently I had my first taste of a chemical, #1 in Tihkal, called AL-LAD.

I'm not exactly sure how close in nature to LSD the molecule is, but the inebriation produced by the AL-LAD is everything described in Tihkal and more.

I have no way of being positive that the substance in question is truly AL-LAD. It is on plain, perforated blotter paper. They are about 2/3 times larger than normal LSD blotters. I do not know if there is a way to have it tested for what type of chemical is actually on it, but the source remains if anyone knows how to have this done. The supplier is extremely reliable. I took three this night, after having sampled once before with one hit.

The onset seems to be longer and slower than LSD, with first effects being felt within the half an hour, but building slowly in intensity over time and peaking at about 5 hours. The highest peaks are much more drawn out than would seem normal. Visuals and body high are extremely acid-esque, but the AL-LAD produced a unique sensation that none of it was passing me by. Whereas LSD often feels like the whole experience is happening, its going right by me, the AL-LAD kept me completely there. I maintained all my reasoning skills despite the fact that my visual field was entirely full of color and movement, and it never felt out of control. Whereas on acid one often feels that the strong experience is just waiting to lash out and take over, there was absolutely NO sense of paranoia. Perhaps it was set and setting? Not entirely. I was in between several different peoples houses, outside on the city streets, and in a (fairly large) house party, all places that normally emote in me anything but comfortability.

What seemed to be happening was that the AL-LAD was able to replace FEAR with CURIOSITY. Instead of ever being lost or taken over by the feelings of a bad trips or some sort of paranoia or impending disaster, these feelings (which were ever only present for brief periods of time) were ALWAYS replaced by a notion to learn more about what the fear of bad notion was founded on. What should have been a segway into a bad trip prompted only the largest grin I could have ever achieved, analyzing the nature of the fear in real time that one normally tends to run from.

It was LSD, but slower, more managable, unintimidating, every bit as intense, and left each one of the people consuming absolutely GLOWING. The saying "its like a roll and a trip" certainly has been used for everything now a days, lest we all remember the 2c-t-7 fiasco. AL-LAD seems to be the chemical with properties emoting this response, but in no way would one legitimately be able to say that it feels distinctly like a roll. You in no way feel as if you are rolling, the stimulation is clearly in the vein of a psychedelic, and not just any psychedelic, it is clearly RELATED to LSD, but also, definably DIFFERENT. You do not have the mental state of one involved in a hard trip, but rather one more attuned to rolling. Vibes are felt everywhere, no substance before has done quite the same with music as this did. Thought patterns were extremely out there, like LSD, but there was a sense of tangibility to all thoughts that does not exist with acid. The thoughts are there, they are your own, they are real. At no time did they ever seem like the product of a psychedelic trip, rather the thoughts of a completely sane person stuck IN a psychedelic trip as a passive onlooker, feeling and absorbing every moment of the experience with astounding clarity.

The fractal and holographic nature of reality were visible at times throughout the trip. It was that strong. Yet usually when one reaches a level to visually see the interconnectedness of the world, one is on the verge of psychedelic break down. I felt as calm, sane, and competant during this phase of the trip as I did when I was coming up, as I did before I even took the substance. I was not, however, robbed of the ability to analyze, intelligently and methodically, what it was I was seeing and experiencing.

The differences between LSD and this substances are subtle, but glaringly obvious. This chemical rides the fine line between normal waking consciousness and the psychedelic experience. I felt as if all the craziness of LSD had finally been handed to me in a form that I could work with, that I could study, and that I could EASILY bring back the information dealt with on the trip. This substance feels as if it would be good for anything from an active night out, to a quiet meditative night. You LOSE yourself, without ever LOSING yourself. You BECOME part of everything else, and it becomes needless to fight the experience, becuase you are too busy wondering HOW it is working.

Watch out. If there was ever a drug set to recreate the 60s in a modern context, this is it. This, if ever openly available, would absolutely explode.
 
Fascinating, checking THIKAL I notice that one of the reports calls 'one of the best materials ever' ... I don't suppose you've any idea what sort of dose you had ?
 
In response to ISO:

I don't believe this should be transferred to trip reports, its not actually a trip report. I wrote it as an introduction to a chemical that others may soon be stumbling upon for whatever reason. I don't know where it ultimately came from, but it may make it to anyone else's neck of the woods. This post was meant to be a forum to discuss this and people's potential interests. Close it if you will, but I feel more beneficial discussion will come in this forum.
 
AL-LAD dosages are somewhat similar to lsd dosages.. also, don't you need to make lsd or go through similar steps to make this chemical?

just wondering about possible legality issues
 
LSD is the chemical lysergic acid diethylamide, which is also abbreviated LAD. Therefore AL-LAD has LSD in itself, which that alone would be good enough to be illegal under the analog laws. Plus it makes AL-LAD you need to have nor-LAD, which can only be made from LSD. Therefore, this will never be sold as an RC because you need LSD.

I don’t see why anyone would even bother making it, looking at the synthesis it isn’t the easiest thing to make, especially thinking that you have to make LSD before hand, which is also hard. Personally, I would be real surprised if it really was AL-LAD, if someone was going to make an illegal drug, I think they would stop at LSD, since everyone wants it already, and it is so rare. But I do think it would be an interesting substance to try. I do hope it really was AL-LAD, so that maybe one day it would come by me.
 
Hmm.. Interesting! Was it really AL-LAD? What do you people think? I hope it was because it's the first report of it in this forum! :p But.. (not going into any details ofcourse), was this a tab you found off a lame street dealer or someone that knows their drugs? Is there anyway you could ask the source what it was? May be a mystery forever!
 
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I have no way of being positive that the substance in question is truly AL-LAD. It is on plain, perforated blotter paper. They are about 2/3 times larger than normal LSD blotters. I do not know if there is a way to have it tested for what type of chemical is actually on it, but the source remains if anyone knows how to have this done. The supplier is extremely reliable. I took three this night, after having sampled once before with one hit.

i sure hope it was AL-LAD, but there's no way to be sure though..

very interesting report arcarsenal !! you lucky bastard !!;)

besides pihkal, does anyone know of any other reports on it? would be appreciated.
 
This was not from a street dealer. He is a trusted and knowledgeable dealer.

I would like to know if there is any way I can have this professionally tested. I am willing to do so for the sake of this community if anyone has any ideas.

I have also recently heard someone else, of a separate path of influence than this dealer, who has heard that AL-LAD is set to make a reappearance. He said that it tended to be around on the more underground channels during the 60s.
 
maybe maybe not - I would recommend taking it all with a large pinch of salt for the time being - 1/2 the people on the web seem to think they have been sold mescaline - lol
 
The New Shaman said:
dangit where is a chemist when you need one!

from what i have seen in your gallery you are well on your way. start getting sassafras oil or other misc:-D... pyrex... a magnetic mixing, some erlenmier flasks, beakers, coffee filters, etc etc... learn to make your own fractal distillation and practice makes perfect. Mix and Pour. Mix and Pour. there are some very nice sites online which have VERY ACCURATE information(bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) heh... don't believe people who tell you it's hard... it's rather easy. oh yeah Strike has a book> Total Synthesis II which was rather nice reading when i was into it... after you're set you'll probably give it up... maybe not, i've encountered people who make it their lifestyle..

There's your hint. Hopefully you'll quit all that thinking all together.. it's harmful.
 
oh and for everyone, if it was what he says it was, some close to him makes it... probably a long haired 20-something... minimal chemistry background... just playing around, reading books... i mean you can get ergot fungus and use a black light to pick off the crystals... it's not LSD... but it's something.

there's some other cool ways to get fucked up i heard about... Huffing gasoline, sniffing cow shit, and getting hit in the head with a brick(similar to a Ketamine experience)
 
Umm.. isn't ergot poisenous?
Oh and if you've tried teh brick routine, wheres your report ;)
 
No, I have not consumed 5-meo-AMT before. I also had the notion that this is what it may be.

While it may be premature to dismiss the notion that it is not LAD, and is in fact 5-meo-AMT, it definately felt much much more like LSD than any other substance I have ever encountered. I have done quite a few things, although there are obviously people on this board who are seasoned. What I do know is that this was absolutely nothing like AMT, and was a far cry from something like mushrooms.

It was quite simply, LSD but different.

Once again, I ask, does anyone know how or where this could be tested?
 
I doubt the fact that it could have been 5-MEO-AMT based on the fact that it was blotter. It would be hard to fit enough for a whole dose of 5-MEO-AMT on blotter. But we can't fully rule it out, because if you fully covered thick blotter, you might be able to get 1 mg on a regular blotter. So if it is 3 times as large, and you took 3, then that is up to 9 mgs. And this would also explain the fact that it was larger than LSD blotter, even though AL-LAD is active in lower doses then LSD. I would think it isn't 5-MEO-AMT based on the fact that you noted that it felt like LSD. And 5-MEO-AMT doesn't feel like LSD (or so i hear from many people). And 5-MEO-AMT lasts for a good 12 hours.

Setting and ideas have alot to do with a trip. You said that if felt like LSD, but different. It could have been the fact that you went looking for something different, and found something.

Or you really did have AL-LAD. Some chemist wanted to try out the material and made it, which would yield probably over 50mg, and so he sold off what he didn't want. As i said, there are many possibilities, I know of no ways to test it.
 
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Actually, 5-MeO-AMT lasts for 18-24 hours, before you're able to sleep. It's kinda lite... there're other things that are much more interesting....
 
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