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Phenethylamines 2C-I Effects and Ratings Survey Results

illuminati boy

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Attached should be a zipped file with 5 files in it that contain the data on 2C-I gathered from the recent survey project on largely unresearched compounds.


General information about the survey project on largely unresearched compounds.

This project consisted of posting 28 surveys for about 60 days at 6 different internet discussion boards. 25 of the surveys received at least one response in that time. There were a total of 701 responses to all of the surveys with 5-MeO-DPT receiving the fewest responses (2) and 2C-I receiving the most (123). 11 surveys received 25 or more responses and probably give a somewhat reliable overview of the compounds in question.
There are 3 different types of surveys. The Phenethylamines, the Tryptamines, and the DOB-DFLY survey. The phenethylamine and tryptamine surveys are almost identically with 2 exceptions; the tryptamine surveys have an additional item labeled x01 and a freeform response at the end. The DOB-DFLY survey has numerous additional sections etc. due to it being a later addition. Despite these differences, each subsection should allow for apples to apples comparisons. The only real difference in the data might be a slightly higher skip rate on section 5 with regard to the phenethylamines, though looking at the actual data the difference appears to be minimal if any.

What was looked at across all surveys was 1. What people thought of the compound overall, 2. What people thought about the general pleasurableness of the compound, 3. What people thought about the general stimulant/sedative tendencies of the compound, 4. What people reported in the way of ‘primary effects,’ 5. What people reported in the way of ‘side effects,’ and 6. The number of times people reported taking a given compound.

For items 1, 2, & 3 a ‘score’ can be worked out.

For the overall rating one can either calculate the % of persons that consider the compound ‘worthwhile’ by adding the number of persons reporting ‘B,’ ‘A,’ and ‘A+’ and dividing by the total number of persons answering that item; or one can calculate an ‘average rating’ by giving a score of 6 to every ‘A+,’ 5 to every ‘A,’ 4 to every ‘B,’ 3 to every ‘C,’ 2 to every ‘D,’ 1 to every ‘E,’ and 0 to every ‘F’ (the results then divided by the number of total respondents).

For the overall pleasure direction one simply assigns a weighted score to the responses according to the value to the left (i.e. +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, -3) and divides by the total number of responses. A net positive score indicates a compound that is reportedly more positive and a net negative score indicates a compound that is reportedly more negative. A score close to or at 0 indicates a compound that is not very particularly prone one way or another with regard to pleasurable experiences (it could have no discernable ‘push’ or it could be equally prone toward pleasurable or disconcerting experiences).

The overall energy direction is calculated much the same as the overall pleasure direction, with the difference being that the results will show the overall tendency of the compound toward stimulation or sedation. If the net score is positive it indicates a trend toward stimulation, if the net score is negative it indicates a trend toward sedation. If the score is close to or at 0 it indicates that a compound is not particularly prone toward one direction or the other (this could mean neither stimulation nor sedation or it could indicate that people are more or less equally prone to the experience of either).

Compound specific discussion.

2C-I is a compound in the 2C class that appears to be considerably more common than many of the other compounds surveyed. Per reports, it has regularly circulated in pills in Europe in the past. Not surprisingly, this survey received the most responses (123). The data for this compound looks to be fairly solid. This is one of the surveys that probably have enough responses to really get a good feel for the range and frequency of expected effects and side-effects.

Looking at the data here, 75.6% of respondents considered the material ‘worthwhile.’

The overall average pleasure score is +1.46 or about midway between ‘Pleasant’ and ‘Very Upbeat.’

The respondents generally reported that this is a noticeably stimulating compound with a stimulation score of +1.96 or an average roughly equivalent to ‘Moderately Stimulating.’

The most commonly reported side-effect for this compound is headache, with 51.0% of those responding noting it.

As with almost all other compounds surveyed, the most frequently reported number of uses is 2-5 (33.3%). 2C-I had a broader range of responses than some other compounds though, with responses apparently covering the 1-100+ range.


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Hmm I would have never guessed that 2ci is more prone to giving people headaches than 2ce. Bump :)
 
are there similar surveys for other drugs?

Illuminati Boy (WAYY back in the day) did a series of identical surveys for all of the common RCs of the day, which basically just included the 2Cs and a handful of tryptamines. They're all floating around here somewhere.

As Buzz said, we (the PD mods) have been planning to do something similar and more comprehensive, but it is a question of time... and energy. I know there is a group out there that is attempting something far more ambitious and fascinating, though, which involves mapping specific subjective effects to receptor binding sites.
 
Such surveys would definetely be cool to see!
I know there is a group out there that is attempting something far more ambitious and fascinating, though, which involves mapping specific subjective effects to receptor binding sites
Is there? Is any of their work accessible as of yet?
 
Illuminati Boy (WAYY back in the day) did a series of identical surveys for all of the common RCs of the day, which basically just included the 2Cs and a handful of tryptamines. They're all floating around here somewhere.

As Buzz said, we (the PD mods) have been planning to do something similar and more comprehensive, but it is a question of time... and energy. I know there is a group out there that is attempting something far more ambitious and fascinating, though, which involves mapping specific subjective effects to receptor binding sites.
this sounds super interesting. aren't there some issues about different papers disagreeing about receptor affinity?
 
Such surveys would definetely be cool to see!

Is there? Is any of their work accessible as of yet?

Not to my knowledge, they're still in the development stage. I'm sure there will be much more to come on that front
 
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