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BL IN THE MEDIA: Drug users swap stories, share warnings online in search for safety

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"I realised I was falling through an infinite tunnel … seeing myself living lives I've never lived."

"Great. Now I'm trapped in a dark alien trash compactor … I'm snorkelling face down like the alien-doctors wanted me to?!"

"The most f---ed up experience of my life."

This is a very different kind of online trip adviser.

Instead of swapping travel tips and hotel reviews, users on the website Bluelight share their "trip reports": the things they experience under the influence of drugs.

Pill reports and harm reduction sites have become the most popular sources of information for drug users around the world, alerting them to bad batches circulating in the community.

Most illegal drugs are produced with no quality control, exposing users to a greater risk of harm from high doses, low purity and, in rare cases, drugs that are contaminated with substances that can be more potent than the drug itself.

A recent survey of more than 850 Australians who used psychostimulants and/or hallucinogens in the preceding year found 72 per cent went to pill-report websites to find information about the substances.

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"People will use the systems that are available": Dr Monica Barratt.

Almost half (49 per cent) visited drug harm reduction websites and forums, the survey by the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre (NDARC) found.

Just 18 per cent looked at government websites, preferring Google and other search engines (49 per cent), Wikipedia (37 per cent), Facebook news feeds (27 per cent) and even Reddit (24 per cent

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Users offer each other support and guidance when they've had a bad trip and help build the encyclopaedic list of substances, their reported source, chemical composition, effects and harms.

The information can be surprisingly accurate. It can also be dangerous guesswork.

Researchers at the Dutch government-sponsored Drug Information Monitoring Service tested the reliability of the drug content and dosage information on ecstasy pill report websites by comparing it with their own data.

They reported most of the content on the sites should not be considered harmful, but they deemed 15 per cent of reports could be dangerous, usually because they underestimated the amount of MDMA in particular batches.

But DIMS' data is not publicly available. In a climate of zero tolerance drug policies, the sites often offer users the only time-sensitive pill alerts.

The Australian government's deterrence-driven National Drugs Campaign aims to make drugs less appealing to young people by informing them of the potential negative consequences of drug use.

The link between dose and the risk of death is unpredictable. People who have died from MDMA do not always have very high levels of the drug in their blood.

"In the absence of a better system, people will use the systems that are available," said NDARC researcher and Bluelight administrator Monica Barratt.

"People are using drugs, and the internet is not going away," Dr Barratt said. "We believe we need to change the way we approach drugs and talk about the best ways of dealing with these issues.

"Most people come [to Bluelight] to learn how to use drugs more safely. Members actively disseminate information to warn people of highly dangerous, adulterated drugs."

The site also collaborates with researchers to provide a source of data for monitoring new drugs.

"Often academics use anecdotal [cases] from the forums in their journal articles," Dr Barratt said. "It's the best information we have about how people use drugs."

The posts on Bluelight forums range from dream-like fantasies to time-stamped trip reports described in meticulous detail as authors log the amount of each substance they take, the combination and the way the physical and mental sensations evolve over the trip.

As you scroll through the forum, thread titles read "Is this normal?","Ghosts and stuff", "Interlocking Gods" and simply "Whoa".

There are rules for users; most importantly, users are banned from asking for or offering drugs, and from giving specific details and prices and information on where to buy substances.

"WE ARE NOT HERE TO HELP YOU SCORE DRUGS!" the Bluelight user guidelines read.

Most users adopt pseudonyms. Some use a Tor hidden service to connect anonymously. Harm reduction site Tripsit scrambles IP addresses by default.

Tripsit also offers users live chats with volunteers who will virtually "babysit" individuals through bad trips, offering comfort and support through what is often a frightening and isolating experience.

Bluelight is manned by about 100 volunteers who moderate comments on the forums constantly.

They usually respond within minutes when a user posts a distressing message. But, in the event of an emergency, volunteers are hamstrung by the anonymity.

"That's one of the realities of running a site that lets people use pseudonyms: you can't alert emergency services because you may not know where the person is," Dr Barratt said. "You can ask them, or you can tell them to call an ambulance, but you can't actually get them help."

A journal paper recently accused Bluelight of being a place to procure drugs based on two cases studies.

Several users were offended by the accusation.

"Bluelight goes to great lengths to avoid hosting discussions about drug sources," Dr Barratt said. "Moderators delete all discussions that could be related to sourcing drugs as quickly as they can."

There's still a lot academics, public health providers and drug users themselves don't know about drug use.

The 2016 Global Drug Survey is trying to find out how people use and are affected by myriad substances, and what types of pill testing are available around the world.

Source: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/drug-user...ine-in-search-for-safety-20161111-gsnnt6.html
 
^ Good find.

I've used my free monthly access limit on SMH :( hehhe.

Dude all the articles are for free on SMH. If it's not working, copy the link and paste it into google.

They can't fix the problem as then their website doesn't appear in google ranks.

The unPC however don't have a clue and pay the supscription fee. I refuse to considering they just re-hash articles from other sources.

DailyTelegraph is free this way as well.

If it doesn't work in normal google search when you paste the link in, just go to incognito and do it.
 
For whatever reason, this story reminds me of an encounter that I along with several other BLers had several years back with some lady who reportedly stumbled upon BL by accident and decided to create an account for the purpose of ranting against the consumption of illicit psychotropic substances which she likely has never touched.

And I'll never forget the fact that at one point, she labelled these forums 'A Den of Death Seekers.' Anyone else recall this lady's adorable blabbering? This was back during the Bush Administration - a time when Cannabis Sativa/Indica (Marijuana) was still seen as a drug worthy of its Schedule I status alongside the likes of Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) by the vast majority of Americans.

Yeah... not sure why I remember that so well, but I digress.
 
Where else are people gonna look for safety guidelines . Bluelight and similar sites can provide excellent support and information...
 
Dude all the articles are for free on SMH. If it's not working, copy the link and paste it into google.

They can't fix the problem as then their website doesn't appear in google ranks.

The unPC however don't have a clue and pay the supscription fee. I refuse to considering they just re-hash articles from other sources.

DailyTelegraph is free this way as well.

If it doesn't work in normal google search when you paste the link in, just go to incognito and do it.

I'm not sure what you mean. Both the SMH and DT are subscriber based (in certain sections) now and since I read them both for free I run out of free articles often. I tried google and it didnt work, still went to this -

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I think it works off my IP, and since my ip is static then I run out. I guess if I tried to hide my ip somehow it would work. Can't be fucked though lol.
 
I'm not sure what you mean. Both the SMH and DT are subscriber based (in certain sections) now and since I read them both for free I run out of free articles often. I tried google and it didnt work, still went to this -

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I think it works off my IP, and since my ip is static then I run out. I guess if I tried to hide my ip somehow it would work. Can't be fucked though lol.

Try copying and pasting just the heading. I usually try either just the heading or the link.

My IP is also static.
 
Poledriver, try HMA (Hide My Ass) VPN Service - they offer a free trial period IIRC.

Or, how about Tor? Too brute?
 
Thanks for the plug, Sydney Morning Herald ;)

Always great to see the wonderful Tronica make another appearance in the mainstream press.
She's a HR rock star :)
 
Using a VPN doesn't get around those "10 free articles a month" thing. Maybe it's a cookie? Did using incognito mode help?
 
Try copying just the title into google search. I never seem to have an issue and if I do I go then straight to ingognito mode.
 
Hi y'all. :)

Hope you like the article. I was pretty happy with it (although the start with the quotes from 'interesting' trips felt a bit sensationalist, but I guess they have to get their readers in). We are considering front-paging it.

And that photo shoot I did 5 years ago in the laneways of Fitzroy keeps on giving. I am forever young ;)
 
Yeah, it must be cookies to do with my safari browser, I just opened firefox and it loaded fine. And yes, if I use 'private browsing' in safari it works. And I think I do have tor browser installed somewhere still, I'm sure that would have worked as well.

lol.. Cheers guys. =D

edit - unharm on FB just posted the same article via the age -

http://www.theage.com.au/national/h...s-online-in-search-for-safety-20161111-gsnnt6
 
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...they often choose Bluelight even over official government websites.

Isn't that crazy.
 
I remember BL from way back in the late 90s. I guess the news that this "shocking" BL site exists must have been burning on a slooooowwww fuse for some media hacks.
 
...they often choose Bluelight even over official government websites.

Isn't that crazy.

What is more surprising to me is that anyone actually goes to government sites for information on drugs. Really, that is the last place one should go to if they want objective information about drugs.
 
For whatever reason, this story reminds me of an encounter that I along with several other BLers had several years back with some lady who reportedly stumbled upon BL by accident and decided to create an account for the purpose of ranting against the consumption of illicit psychotropic substances which she likely has never touched.

And I'll never forget the fact that at one point, she labelled these forums 'A Den of Death Seekers.' Anyone else recall this lady's adorable blabbering? This was back during the Bush Administration - a time when Cannabis Sativa/Indica (Marijuana) was still seen as a drug worthy of its Schedule I status alongside the likes of Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) by the vast majority of Americans.

Yeah... not sure why I remember that so well, but I digress.

LoL, did she actually respond to what you said to her or did she just post nonsense ranting against drugs? I wonder if her posts are archived somewhere still?
 
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