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Opioids Kratom Mega Thread V.4

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I micro dose kratom as well, not because I want to but because I am running out and hve to conserve it. Unlike other real opiates where if you dose below your normal amount you dont feel much, I still get pleasant effects from 1 or 2 gram of kratom. It is truly a great substance.
 
Cool! It's nice to see I'm not the only one that's figured this out :D. Does anyone get unwanted side-effects from these small doses? I occasionally get more irritable for some reason, it doesn't really bother me too much though as those moments tends to pass quite quickly as well.
 
^ I sometimes get slightly anxious on the come-up but there seems to be no other side effects unless I do too much. Coming down is generally smooth and it's easy to stop redosing after a certain point.
 
I'm going through 50g of kratom in like 4 days. I take around 6-8 grams of milled leaf at once. It hits hard at first and the smooths out and us pleasant for around 6 hours. My tolerance gas not changed at all.
I need to buy in bulk though to save money but gave not found a reliable bulk vendor.
 
burn out said:
I micro dose kratom as well, not because I want to but because I am running out and hve to conserve it. Unlike other real opiates where if you dose below your normal amount you dont feel much, I still get pleasant effects from 1 or 2 gram of kratom. It is truly a great substance.
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Does dosing like that still require a re-dose or two to last all day?
I'm off kratom now, used to take it daily 5g 2-3xday
If i ever go back to it might give this a try.
I hope i can steer clear from all opiate type drugs for good tho
(well, clear from all besides the substance I take as the best antidepressant i have ever tried: Tianeptine)

-HOOD
 
I think I've asked this before but I'll ask again, anybody get extremely anxious on the tail end of kratom? It was the reason I had to get off kratom but recently I decided to get back on kratom because this effect seemingly went away, well, now it came back... but since I've been using for about a week now and I'm now ultra sensitive to dependency I'm now full blown addicted so if I don't find a solution, which I don't think I will, I have to go through full blown withdrawals again :p. This ain't withdrawal anxiety either, I'm talkin all out anxiety worse than that of acute withdrawal that makes the oncoming withdrawal when the kratom leaves the system a relief. Sucks cuz it wasn't always like this, it's like my body developed some sort of allergy to kratom. I guess I'd just like to know if I'm alone, which sounds like the case.
 
Hi Captain,
Sorry to hear of your troubles w kratom.
I have never had any sort of anxiety ever with kratom- not at the tail end nor with withdrawal etc. I am prone to anxiety and panic but never has k causes it.

I take k about 10-15 days a month (for opiate WD) 2 tsp every 5-6 hours or as needed. I can easily go on and off no problem . K has never given me a high feeling but does help w WDs. If I take too much I get insomnia and wobbly eyes. Never threw up on it
 
ChemicalSmiles said:
I honestly think you would be better with a relatively quick methadone taper... than kratom....

I know my chances of success.... attempting what you are discussing... would be very little!
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methadone is a horrible way to do it imo. ive done a taper with methadone and ive also used kratom. I think your best bet in my experience is to take a low to moderate benzo dose and clonidine for your bp if u can get your hands on it. most docs will prescribe it to you np....and also taking kratom will help with some uncomfy feelings.
 
Kratom erases my anxiety. I get kinda down two or three days after using, but as I'm an infrequent user (about once a week) it's not really problematic. Never had any anxiety associated with use at all.
 
Doldrugs said:
Kratom erases my anxiety. I get kinda down two or three days after using, but as I'm an infrequent user (about once a week) it's not really problematic. Never had any anxiety associated with use at all.
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Do you use one of the lesser stimulating strains?

I've never had any anxiety with its use either, despite what strain.

I find it great for anxiety along with is opiate effects.

-HOOD
 
Yeah, kinda knew these were the reaponses I'd get. IDK wtf happened but it was like a flip of the switch and kratom turned on me, took nearly 4 years of daily use to do this but once it happened, kratom was never the same. Funny though, as I started taking kratom because it was the greatest anxiolytic I could find that was forgiving and readily accessible, ain't so pretty anymore. I still love you you kratom <3, I'm sure I'm I ruined it from overuse.
 
Im not getting good effects kratom anymore, I think my tolerance is too high. It pretty much just keeps me out of wd these days, I only get a slight buzz when it kicks in and thats it. This sucks, kratom was such a blessing for me and now I find myself tempted to go get some heroin or some other harder drug because I cant get properly jacked on kratom any more unless I take a ridiculous dosage which is just too much plant material to swallow, plus I want to keep my tolerance low and my habit affordable.
 
Does kratom make derealization worse?

Also can you be a junkie off it?
 
Derealization? I have never really gotten derealization from Kratom.

As for being a junkie... well... I suppose. I mean, I wouldn't coin that as the correct term but you can get addicted to it yeah. Especially if other opiates were already in the picture as well.
 
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