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Stoner wrinklies giving Germans a headache

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Stoner wrinklies giving Germans a headache

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Willie Nelson, 78, is an inspiration to elderly hippies. Photo / AP

They include 60-plus grandmothers spaced out on LSD and 70-year-olds in court for dealing dope: Germany is struggling to cope with a rapid increase in "pensioner hippies" who are still hooked on drugs nearly half a century after the end of the "flower power" era.

The "stoned grandparent" phenomenon has begun to alarm legal and welfare authorities in the country's most populous state, North Rhine Westphalia, where the number of pensioners convicted of drug offences has almost doubled over the past decade to about 120 a year.

The problem has led to a scheme to help geriatric specialists familiarise themselves with addiction and old age.

Gaby Schnell, of the regional senior citizens' association, told Der Spiegel magazine, "Older people are increasingly turning to illegal drugs. This is a new development which has only surfaced over the past few years."

Most cases have involved pension-age hippies convicted of drug-related offences.

In one incident, a narcotics crime squad in Dortmund arrested a 69-year-old drugs dealer nicknamed Opium Grandpa.


Officers had tricked him into selling them 20g of the drug for £208 ($415). He was given a two-year suspended sentence.

Another case involved a 73-year-old who required medical treatment after consuming too many "hash cookies".

The crime figures are taken as evidence of a vast, yet hidden number of older people who are either regular drug users or addicts.

Sociologists say Germany's hippie senior citizens are merely copying their rock star heroes of the hedonistic late 60s, when taking drugs was considered part of being cool.

Among the examples they point to is the American singer Willie Nelson, 78, who was caught last year carrying 170g of marijuana.

"A whole generation is appearing on the scene which will have big difficulties with the problems of addiction and old age," Schnell said.

Her predictions are borne out by statistics from Germany's Central Agency for Addiction.

They show that the number of people over 40 who are undergoing treatment for dependency on hard drugs has more than trebled in the past decade. It now makes up 22 per cent of the total, and is continuing to rise.

The problem of drug-addicted "hippie pensioners" has also started to concern experts in Chancellor Angela Merkel's government.

"These people cannot simply be looked after in old people's homes," Mechthild Dyckmans, the Government's special adviser on drugs and addiction, told Der Spiegel.

"We have started a few communal living pilot projects, but we are just at the beginning."

- THE INDEPENDENT​

Article from here
 
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lol
For once I'm actually proud of Deutschland.

I wonder if those same people could move to the US and vote for Ron Paul?
 
Sociologists say Germany's hippie senior citizens are merely copying their rock star heroes of the hedonistic late 60s, when taking drugs was considered part of being cool.

Top notch sociology right there...



8(
 
I'm still not sure if the writer of this article created an intentional meme or not.
 
lol I planned on moving into that area when I was older... but not Germany. Id go to the place where drug are legal %)
 
Top notch sociology right there...
8(

QFT - that is a very deep analysis that gets right to the heart of the issue :|

What a fucking stupid article.
Trying to make some news without anything to base it on.
 
Thats the best time of life to get stoned all the time, when your old and Aching, For fucks sakes, let the people heal their aches and pains !

My gran has taken pain meds for years and has a decreased kidney function and other stuff.
 
Yeah i agree, I know some old stoners and they love the herb in their elderly yrs. I hope i'm so lucky.
 
QFT - that is a very deep analysis that gets right to the heart of the issue :|

What a fucking stupid article.
Trying to make some news without anything to base it on.

It is the media... You aren't used to seeing or reading silly articles on drugs?

Her predictions are borne out by statistics from Germany's Central Agency for Addiction.

They show that the number of people over 40 who are undergoing treatment for dependency on hard drugs has more than trebled in the past decade. It now makes up 22 per cent of the total, and is continuing to rise.

The problem of drug-addicted "hippie pensioners" has also started to concern experts in Chancellor Angela Merkel's government.

The stats seem like something to base it on... 8)
 
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lol.


most of the hippie drugs aren't addictive or cause you to get hooked and rob your family and rape and pillage for your next fix. I could write a better more offensive and stereotypically antidrug article than this.
 
OMG old people are sitting in their wheel chairs in a spaced out state of mind
we must stop them
do it for the children


The big cocktails of perscription meds old people are on are way worse than lsd, weed, ect.
 
Phen, you're missing the point.
One of the goals of the powers that be is to not instill max headspace, it's to drill you into the ground.
-Even when you're 90. It's never too late, and all that, etc etc.
 
When I'm older of course I'm going to smoke, I'm guessing I'll have even more legitimate reasons to then than ever.
 
The best excuse I've come up with over the years is, "fuck off" followed by a "wtf man?"
 
That's not suprising at all. Let the older generation get high and enjoy their retirement ffs. Police have better things than busting old grandma getting baked
 
It is the media... You aren't used to seeing or reading silly articles on drugs?
Actually, I am used to it, but that is no reason to let it continue without commenting on it. Being used to it is a scary sign, I think, and it is important to point out these things.

The stats seem like something to base it on... 8)
Okay, maybe "without anything" was a bit strong.
But, first, if you look at the examples they gave - an older drug dealer, an old guy who ate too many hash cookies, and Willie Nelson (who is not German) - they happen in other countries all the time.
And, second, as for the stats, we are not told if the number of 40+ year olds has increased in that time, as it has in the US and other countries, which would make the increase in those undergoing treatment for dependency on "hard" drugs less impressive.
We are also not told if there were changes in the laws or the trends in court, such as sending more people to forced dependency treatment or giving more people opportunities to avoid prison if they sign up for treatment (and this is the case in the US, particularly for cannabis dependency).
Without this type of information, it seems hard to judge whether the statistics really mean anything.
 
Actually, I am used to it, but that is no reason to let it continue without commenting on it. Being used to it is a scary sign, I think, and it is important to point out these things.


Okay, maybe "without anything" was a bit strong.
But, first, if you look at the examples they gave - an older drug dealer, an old guy who ate too many hash cookies, and Willie Nelson (who is not German) - they happen in other countries all the time.
And, second, as for the stats, we are not told if the number of 40+ year olds has increased in that time, as it has in the US and other countries, which would make the increase in those undergoing treatment for dependency on "hard" drugs less impressive.
We are also not told if there were changes in the laws or the trends in court, such as sending more people to forced dependency treatment or giving more people opportunities to avoid prison if they sign up for treatment (and this is the case in the US, particularly for cannabis dependency).
Without this type of information, it seems hard to judge whether the statistics really mean anything.

Yeah I agree with you, the article is pretty piss weak, I probably arched up a bit cos it was the first time I've posted in the DITM section and got that reaction from a mod. Pretty silly on my part.

Atleast the article is decent for some LOL'S if nothing more.

:)
 
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