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Opioids please help me

jesica

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My doctor put me on tramadol maybe a year ago because I have pinched nerves in my back. It did not work for me so I asked her for something stronger. She told me tramadol is not addiciting and because this problem will be life long and your so young we do not want to give you something else you can become addicted to. So instead of giving me something that would work they convinced me tramadol was not addicting and kept upping my dose till I was at 400 mg's a day. I was never looking to get high from them just be pain free but I soon learned I loved the way they made me feel and kept taking more and more a day. I would find myself running out earlier and earlier each month but I had someone I could borrow them from so I was never without. Well this person no longer needs them so when I ran out this month I learned what withdrawals are first hand. It is the most awful feeling ever, as most of you probably already know. My doctor gave me some hydroxazine for withdrawals but I still feel like crap and all I can think about is getting a pill. Once and a while I will get some hydrocodones to feel good and I never got addicted to them so I have been taking them to get rid of the yucky feeling of withdrawal. So my question here is can I really take hydros and withdrawal from the tramadol and feel good in a few days or am I just going to feel the same as soon as I no longer have hydros? I have been searching everywhere for an answer to this but I can not find one because everyone uses tramadol to withdrawal not the other way around. Someone please help me I just took my last hydro!!
 
Bummer sis, your going to get withdrawals when you run out of hydros. If you have access to any opiate I'd take small amounts and taper down to avoid/weaken withdrawals. There's some real useful threads on withdrawals, use the search engine to find. Best o luck, jesica.
 
well sounds like u need some real pain management issues and addiction monitoring. u could try to score some stronger shit, as long as u can figure out a way to taper. or go to an addiciton psychiatrist and come clean with what is going on.
 
Your doc is trying to help steer you clear of a endless cycle of pain meds.
Do you plan on just eating pills your hole life?
W/d shouldnt be horrible.
There is depot Injections for pain issues,surgery,exercise are all options.
Get off the pills asap before you hit a bottom so dark that some people cant return
 
no I do not want to be on pills my whole life, I was trying to taper down my pills but that did not work well. That is why my doctor gave me stuff for withdrawals. I know pills are ruining my life that is why I do not want to be on them anymore. I would rather be in pain then go through this pill hell. I have tried other things as well, I have already had two spinal injections.
 
I would recommend trying many different medications.. I would recommend KRATOM as it is very benificial and there is loads of info about it here on bluelight. It's legal and u can order as much as u want without the need of a doctor... very good at taking care of my cluster headaches and crippling anxiety.

How did you pinch ur nerve? Sounds very painful.
 
No one knows why they are pinched, just one day I got this weird pain going down my leg into my toes and in my hip and butt so they did a test and found two pinched nerves.
 
Unfortunately, the history of semi-synthetic and synthetic opioids has been one of 'well this new one is not addictive!' starting with Morphine, then Heroin, and so and so on; then in more recent history it was the weaker synthetic opioids are not addictive (Propoxyphene); then partial agonists (Pentazocine) are not addictive; then potent partial agonists used to treat addiction (Buprenorphine) are not addictive; etc. Tramadol is not a typical opioid, and has other methods of action (like Norepinepherine Reuptake Inhibition), so it was considered less prone to abuse and addiction. Regardless- it is habit forming, causes euphoria, and acts like a typical mu agonist opioid (will cause dependancy and withdrawal syndrome).

If you are without Tramadol and take any other opioid, such as you have been with Hydrocodone, it will alleviate the withdrawal syndrome as long as it is at high enough blood serum levels. But once it starts to be metabolized and discarded by the body, you will re-enter acute withdrawal. Your situation is called Iatrogenic Addiction:

Iatrogenic Addiction

The potential for ADDICTION or ABUSE influences the licit medical use of many drugs, including OPIOIDS, BENZODIAZEPINES, BARBITURATES, and others. This influence can be evaluated from two perspectives—(1) the risk that addiction or abuse will result from medical treatment of patients with no such prior history, and (2) the possibility that overconcern about this risk leads to inappropriate undertreatment of certain medical conditions. Although these issues can be discussed with reference to any of these drug classes, the opioids are most illuminating and are emphasized below.

The Risk of Addiction or Abuse

Like any other potential adverse outcome of drug therapy, the prevalence of iatrogenic addiction (drug addiction or abuse during medical treatment) must be determined so that the risk can be assessed by both the practitioner and the patient. An accurate understanding of prevalence, in turn, requires the application of clinically relevant definitions of these phenomena. Unfortunately, there has been little effort to define the addiction syndrome as it occurs in patients, and there is abundant evidence that clinicians commonly use definitions that are inappropriate.

Your doctors ignorance has lead you into this predicament. Hydroxyzine alone is not a standard or appropriate treatment for opioid withdrawal. The problem is that your pain needs complicate how you can and should go about a detoxification from Tramadol. Have you had any success with non-opioid moderate to severe oral pain medications like Pregabalin (Lyrica), Gabapentin (Neurontin), Ketoralac (Toradol) [also available in injectable formulations], and adjunctive pain meds like Orphenadrine etc?

In the end you need to coordinate with a medical professional. Depending on your health insurance and financial situation, it'd probably be best to seek the advice of a pain management doctor and a substance abuse specialist of some kind. An outpatient but monitored Tramadol taper (i.e. by only dispensing a day or weeks worth at a time, meaning you can only pick up 1, 2 , 3, etc days worth from the pharmacy at a time) or giving your prescription to a trusted family member or friend to dispense on schedule, combined with another regimine for managing your pain without opioids, and possibly traditional outpatient non-opioid detoxification medications (Clonidine, Benzodiazepines, sleeping medications, etc).
 
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