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Hilarious Newsreel - Testing LSD on soldiers

johnboy

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In case any of you have missed this on stileproject. This is actual footage of 60s (I think) British soldiers taking large doses of LSD and being forced to do soldier type things, with hilarious results.

http://www.ftr6.org/movies/thum6.mpg

This is a large file, over 7 meg, but it's worth it.

edit: link fixed
 
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Gotta love the stile for sharing stuff like this!! he didnt win a webby award for nothing!
I personally loved the guy climbing the tree to feed the birds!!! CLASSIC!!!
 
ROFL!
With past indications on how hardKore the drug experiments used to be, I wonder what doses they were on.
BigTrancer :)
 
We think climbing trees to feed the birds should be part of general army training. Might make for a more mellow breed of soldier ;)
That clip made our morning.
Thank you muchly.
[ 07 August 2002: Message edited by: hardup ]
 
hardup: It may possibly make for a more mellow breed of soldier, i guess it depend on what they give them...to make them REALLY mellow, i'd reccommend MDMA ;) I've read that Nazis were given amphetamines and other substances to increase aggression...can anyone confirm? I guess when i hear the words "soldier" and "LSD" i have visions of a platoon tearing eachother to pieces, sans "Jacobs Ladder".
...has anyone seen that movie? Absolutely awesome movie, for so many reasons, even if you have to watch it a couple of times to pick everything up :D
Awesome piece of footage! have had a crap day so far, and watching that has made me giggle. Ta! :)
K
[ 08 August 2002: Message edited by: samadhi ]
 
Nazis? sure the took speed, but so did every other nation's soldiers during WW2, and Korea, and Vitena... oh and the Gulf War... there's a thread on this, I'll dig it up...
 
Yes the footage is damn funny.. :)
Jacob's ladder is one of my all time favourite (mainstream) movies :)
 
Originally posted by wazza:
Jacob's ladder is one of my all time favourite (mainstream) movies :)
I don't know how mainstream the movie is...alot of people i've asked haven't heard of it. Mainstream or not, it's a great piece of film-making :) The movie goes over alot of peoples heads. The dvd includes complete scenes that were left out of the original...they help (slightly) to explain where Jacob's (Robbins') head is at. Very good indeed!
 
Wow! That was some funny stuff!
Those soldiers looked like they were having a ball. Who said LSD is dangerous! :)
 
I was CRYING when I saw that clip. The way they were acting in the second half of the clip is the funniest shit I've seen in my life.
Is there a sequel involving MDMA in it?
 
5. Which War Am I In? DEA Meth Offensive Continues as US Pilots in Afghanistan Gobble Speed

In one of America's current great crusades, the war on drugs, amphetamines and their users are key enemies. In our other great crusade, the war on terrorism, amphetamines are our friends. DEA head Asa Hutchinson is in the middle of a month's long, 30-state "Meth Tour 2002," where he regularly portrays amphetamines as a substance akin to a radioactive material -- something inherently dangerous and deadly -- and stumps for ever more laws and ever more funding to fight the "meth menace."

But even as Hutchinson is mounting the stump to rail against the evils of speed, US fighter pilots are tweaking their brains out in the skies over Afghanistan -- and you better believe you didn't read about it in the US press. No, it was the Canadians, understandably upset after those American fighter pilots blasted four Canadian soldiers to smithereens back in April. In an August 1st story, the Toronto Star reported the details on amphetamine use in the US Air Force.

US fighter pilots, who have been involved in at least 10 other "friendly fire" or mistaken attack incidents, are regularly given the amphetamine Dexedrine (or "go-pills," as the pilots call them) to fly longer hours, the Star reported. When they return from their missions, Air Force doctors give them sedatives, such as Ambien (zolpidem) and Restoril (temazepam). The pilots call these "no-go pills," the Star reported. And when it's time to roll again, it's time for more "go pills."

The Star obtained a copy of a document produced by the Top Gun fighter school and the Naval Aerospace Medical Research Laboratory in Pensacola, FL, that outlines the drugs pilots are given and how they are administered. According to the document, "Performance Maintenance During Continuous Flight Operations," the pilots are given Dexedrine in 10 milligram doses and are allowed to carry their own supplies with them in the cockpit.

An Air Force spokeswoman, Betty Ann Mauger, confirmed to the Star that the Air Force is feeding speed to its pilots. "When fatigue could be expected to degrade air crew performance, they are given Dexedrine in 10 milligram doses," she said.
It is unclear if Harry Schmidt, the Illinois Air National Guard pilot who fired the missile that killed the Canadian soldiers, was on speed, but the thought certainly occurred to defense analyst John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org, a Washington, DC, defense think-tank. "Better bombing through chemistry," Pike told the Star. "This was certainly one of my first thoughts after the Canadian friendly fire incident. The initial depiction made it seem as if the pilot was behaving in an unusually aggressive fashion."
Schmidt's lawyer, Charles Gittins, told the Star he wasn't sure if Schmidt was taking Dexedrine the night of the incident. "I don't know the answer," he said. "I've never asked my pilot if he was medicated, but it is quite common. I'll check with him," Gittins told the Star.

While tweaked-out fighter pilots may not make the news in the US, the use of amphetamines in the US military has a long if not glorious history. "I don't think anyone even knows about this," Pike told the Star. "The aviation community and the Air Force community certainly don't like to talk about so-called 'performance enhancing' drugs."

But that doesn't mean the armed forces don't make liberal use of them. According to the Top Gun document obtained by the Star, an anonymous survey of Desert Storm fighter pilots found that 60% used Dexedrine, with that figure climbing to 95% among the most active units. And retired Col. Richard Graham of Plano, TX, who logged over 200 combat missions in Vietnam, told the Star that Dexedrine use was "routine" among pilots in that war.

The Star also reported that pilots are coerced into using amphetamines. Pilots are tested for drug tolerance, then asked to sign a consent form. "It has been explained to me and I understand that the US FDA had not approved the use of Dexedrine to manage fatigue... and I further understand that the decision to take the medication is mine alone." But later on in the same consent form, pilots are informed that there are serious consequences to not taking the drug. "Should I choose not to take it under circumstances where its use appears indicated... my commander, upon advice of the flight surgeon, may determine whether or not I should be considered unfit to fly a mission."

Let's see if we can get this straight: In one war, American fighting men and women are punished for not taking amphetamines, while in another holy war, American citizens are imprisoned for taking amphetamines. Hutchinson and his boys are busy kicking down doors looking for meth labs across the land, but don'thold your breath waiting for the DEA to declare war on the Air Force tweakers. Apparently, some amphetamines are more equal than others.

http://www.drcnet.org/wol/249.html#uspilots
[ 09 August 2002: Message edited by: johnboy ]
 
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Excellent Thanks for that!!! I had no idea (hadn't really thought to be honest) that Pilots (and other military units perhaps?) used drugs still...... I guess I was blinded by ignorance..... but yes... double standards apply....
 
johnboy said:
The Star also reported that pilots are coerced into using amphetamines. Pilots are tested for drug tolerance, then asked to sign a consent form. [/B]

i wonder exactly how they tested the pilots for 'drug tolerance'!!! did they pump em full of drugs, and see when they snapped??? they probably signed the consent forming while tweaking off their nuts!!!
 
btw,
that movie was hilarious!! i especially liked the attack teams loss of ergency when heading into the bushes, filled with the enemy!! and i wonder if they actually had rockets in the rocket teams guns!!! that could've been disatrous!!
 
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