Make no mistake; GHB can cause pain, expense, and tragedy if misused. You, of course, are not going to misuse it. Attend to these five points and you can be sure that you are as safe as is possible:
1. NO ALCOHOL! Yes, Yes, we have said it before - but it is well worth repeating: Alcohol and GHB greatly increase each other's effects and that makes the threat of respiratory arrest a deadly reality. Even small quantities can be hazardous. If this is the only thing you remember, then remember it well!
2. If you are using GHB in public, then be sure to be with a friend. Falling asleep in public is dangerous if you are alone. More than one person has suggested a "GHB-alert" bracelet that would tell passers-by "let me sleep!" but the best way to avoid danger is to have someone on hand who can take care of you.
3. Know your source. Make sure the GHB is pure, and know the concentration so you get the proper dose. Essentially, this means never buying "street" GHB unless you know the dealer and have had some experienced with his or her product. Fortunately, GHB is legal in several countries and so proper pharmaceutical procedures can be employed to make the purest GHB available.
4. Know your dose. The difference between a useful dose and an excessive dose can be very small. Be cautious.
5. Don't be stupid. You should no more drive or operate heavy machinery under the influence of GHB than you should had you consumed any significant quantity of alcohol. If you're dancing, get adequate fluids and rest. Be aware that your judgement is somewhat clouded. The strange man asking you to follow him is probably not your long-lost Uncle Wilfred.
If you don't mix alcohol and GHB, death will not happen, folks.
As with most substances, unpleasant and possibly dangerous side effects can be associated with excessive doses of GHB. A dose usually only about twice the amount required for relaxation or a prosexual effect can, as one user put it, "knock you out but fast." In this respect, GHB is probably comparable to alcohol: if you drank twice as much as you normally would, you probably wouldn't function very well.
Despite its general safety and lack of toxicity, the safe use of GHB requires information, preparation, caution, and good judgement. In other words, follow the usage guidelines!
Death: The lowest estimated lethal dose for GHB that has been reported is 1100mg/kg, although there are reports of experiments with monkeys where the monkeys received 1000mg/kg without apparent harm. In an average human, 1100mg/kg would be over 66g of GHB, or 22 active doses, taken all at once!
The real concerns are simply that it is possible to use GHB irresponsibly.
As with most substances, unpleasant and possibly dangerous side effects can be associated with excessive doses of GHB.
Those who suffer from any of the following conditions should not use GHB:
severe illness of any kind,
epilepsy,
convulsions,
bradycardia or slowed heart-beat
Cushing's syndrome,
severe cardiovascular disease, and
severe hypertension.
GHB should not be used with:
benzodiazepines ("minor tranquillisers" such as Valium and Xanax),
phenothiazines ("major tranquillisers" like Thorazine and Stellazine),
various painkillers (barbiturates and opiates),
alcohol,
anticonvulsants (Dilantin and phenobarbital) and even
many over-the-counter allergy and sleep remedies
In 1991, two scientists from the California Department of Health Services, Drs Chin and Kreutzer, wrote a report on ten "poisonings" associated with GHB. Of the ten "poisonings" reported:
· Four involved "unknown doses,"
· Four featured the simultaneous ingestion of other drugs (usually alcohol),
· One involved epilepsy for which no medication was being taken, and
· One involved a history of grand mal seizures.
Since alcohol and other central nervous system (CNS) depressants are not recommended with GHB, and because GHB is contraindicated for epileptics, such cases are not unexpected. In their report, Chin and Kreutzer do acknowledge that the "more severe reactions...generally occurred when patients took an unmeasured dose, a particularly large dose, or several doses within a short period of time." Such problems are easily avoided by following the directions for GHB's use.
Its not that hard peeps. There are PLENTY of reasons in the thread why you should NOT take it, but it does show how to be as safe as you can. PLEASE READ IT AND SAVE IT SOMEWHERE but REMEMBER THIS IS FOR GHB, NOT 14B. THIS FAQ MAY VARY FOR 14B
[ 19 April 2002: Message edited by: blufluffybunny ]