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sorry another G thread....

eddi spgeddi

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ive read everything BL and erowid has to offer and cant yet answer this question.
how can i measure the concentration of my gbl?
"a friend of mine" had 4ml on the weekend and just felt tired... should he try double the dose to see what it does, or this just crazy talk?
 
That's one of the major problems with G - once it's in liquid form I'm pretty sure you can't tell the concentration... that's also the reason why people have to be real fucking careful with it... :)
And don't appologise for starting another G thread - there can never be enough G threads reminding people to be careful...
 
can i reduce it back to the base powder?
[ 12 March 2002: Message edited by: eddi spgeddi ]
 
Na-GHB is just a salt disolved in water, so if your were to evaporate off the water, then you would be left with just the powder.
i've been told that the standard concentration you guys have down there is about 70-80grams of powder per 100mL.
GBL and 1,4b cant be evaporated down to a powder, coz they are liquids, not salts disolved in a liquid such as water.
[edit] the BIGGEST factor that will determine the strength of a dose of GHB is whether or not your stomach is full... if you have just eaten, then you will feel little or nothing.
on xmas eve i had a 11mL dose (22mL melb. conc.) and my friend had the same. i was G-ing off my tits, while he felt nothing, due to having eaten a large mean 45mins ago.
Maxi
btw: dont boil it... it WILL burn :)
[ 12 March 2002: Message edited by: Maxi ]
 
thanx maxi...
you've saved someone from attempting to "cook down" a substancial amount in order to be able to weight the residual powder!!
im quite sure what "person" has is gbl... would the concentrate, watered down show any levelling/seperation. perhaps if "person" added a solvent? ie solvent seperation?
dont think person had full tummy before dose.
person needs to know if hes gettn ripped off!!
oh and "he" wouldnt boil it... just slow cook on plate over steaming bowel. (but shant do either upon your advice).... cheers
spgeddi out
 
Find some very accurate scales, weigh the same volume of both GHB and water, calculate difference. Bingo.
 
4 ml pure GBL (99.97%)is a whopping 1-time dose for anyone under 100 kg (tolerance excepted), under no circumstances should your friend double it.
1/4 ml increment can make a difference between euphoria and vomiting w/this stuff.
GBL is miscible in water, but does not dissolve completely - while no distinct layer separation occurs when settled, in aqueous solution, GBL appears as liquid crystal, for lack of a better descriptive term.
if dilution in water is supected, you could theoretically steam it off to revert to original strength, as GBL has a higher boiling point, but be careful not to burn it.
remember to keep breathing...
 
I also have another question which I can't find the answer for...
Why is it... when you have too much, you get that weird ear pressure thing... where it feels like you're yawning. What is it about G that has that effect?
 
What makes you think its gbl... I think that would be doubtfull since its such a simple task to turn GBL into GHB (just add lye - or caustic soda) ...
Most likely its 1,4B.. If its GBL, thats amazing (its controlled) .
[ 13 March 2002: Message edited by: BigTrancer ]
 
Errr... you might want to think about editing your post dude :) Last bit is rather erm.. yers.
 
ok then...
is it salty tasting?? then it would be Na-GHB. does it taste like really disgusting raw chemicals? then it would be 1,4b... i dont know what GBL tastes like, i always cap it.
also, how long does it take to 'kick in' GBL takes quite a bit longer than 1,4b or Na-GHB to work.
if what you have is GBL, then go and kick the idiot who watered it down!! for an extra $3.98 it could have been converted into Na-GHB, which is superior. (IMFHO)
M
[ 15 March 2002: Message edited by: Maxi ]
 
I just wanted to record my interest in this topic and let you all know that i have absolutely no idea wht you are talking about.
Stay cool.
BG
 
OK, pardon my ignorance.. but so far Thoth's idea of weighing the water vs weighing the GHB sounds the best way of finding the concentration.. Finding out whether it's GHB/GBL or 1,4 seems easy enough (just taste 'em).. but GBL or GHB.. sounds like lotso trouble to me.. canyae nicht just go to who they got it off and ask 'em which it is??
HOWEVER if the person had 4ml and just 'felt tired' would there be anything so wrong with upping the dose 1ml at a time til the person finds the right dose? If the guy didn't keel over and die from 4ml, there a very slim chance he will from 5.. etc etc.
 
"Party Poison: $10 'high' has teens on life support" Gold Coast Bulletin 18/3/02 by Steve Hunt
"Two young people were placed on life support and five others collapsed after a series of weekend overdoses linked to the party drug fantasy.
the drug - that costs as little as $10 a hit - has been responsible for a wave of overdoses in the city over the past three weeks.
Health authorities yesterday warned the popular nightclub drug could kill quickly.
Fantasy as first exposed as a party favourite in October 1996 when 10 people were taken to hospital after overdosing on the drug at a Broadbeach party."
(Next Report)
"Teen Clubbies gamble with cheap death: $10 hit puts 2 on life support" By Steve Hunt
Seven young people collapsed and two of them were placed on life support after a series of weekend overdoses linked to the party drug fantasy.
Two taken from a Surfers Paradise night-spot were placed on life support in the Gold Coast hospital on Saturday night after going into respiratory arrest.
However, medical authorities warn some fantasy overdose cases never get to hospital.
"I know there are some people who don't make it, but we don't get to see the people downstairs in the morgue," said Dr David Spain, senior staff specialist at the hospitals Accident and Emergency Department.
The drug can be bought on the streets of Surfers Paradise for as little as $10 a hit.
Dr Spain confirmed there had been an upsurge in the number of overdose cases in the past three weeks.
Saturday nights higher number prompted medical staff to issue a warning of the potency and danger of the drug gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB), which is labled "Greivous Bodily Harm" by the party set.
"There's definately been an increase in the number of overdoses in the past two or three weeks,' said Dr Spain. "On Saturday night two of them were serious cases and they were placed in intensive care. They needed to be ventilated to support their breathing. They were in a bad way."
All victims have recovered and have been released from hospital.
Last Tuesday, two people spent the night in intensive care after becoming unconscious because of fantasy.
Dr Spain said the drug could kill patients quickly.
"The major problem is that they lose their ability to breath. It is quite poisonous and extremely concentrated," he said.
"It can kill someone if they are not helped rapidly. My message would be to those trying fantasy is to not take it alone. Thats when people die. If you're taking it, tell people you are with what you are taking."
The latest cases have prompted police to warn recreational drug users not to use the popular drug, which is so dangerous because it comes in a condensed form.
"Fantasy is a problem even if it's taken in small doses. It is very, very dangerous," said regional duty officer Inspector Tony Marks yesterday.
"Anybody who purchases it is likely to get some crook stuff," said Insp Marks.
"Its manufactured in backyards and it's filled with all sorts of additives," he said.
Fantasy was first exposed as a party drug on the Gold Coast in October 1996, when 10 people aged from 18 to 30 were hospitalised.
Eight were taken into intensive care after taking the drug at a Broadbeach nightclub. They were found at daybreak, unconscious in the gutter outside the club, and all had stopped breathing.
Fantasy is a clear syrupy liquid but sometimes it is artificially coloured, mostly blue, to make it more attractive to young users.
GHB first emerged in British dance and rave scene in the mid 1990's.
A woman who overdosed on the drug two years ago yesterday added to the chorus of people warning of the dangers of using it.
"I remember taking it and feeling great and then I remember nothing until I woke up in hospital with a bruised chest."
 
Bugger, I'm glad to hear that the people they spoke about made full recoveries mostly - but they were probably lucky.
It's quite a good article with informed quotes from police and medical staff. The only point I'd mention is that we strongly recommend colouring GHB blue - to make it more difficult to spike into drinks and make it identifiable, rather than some marketing trick to make it more 'attractive'.
BigTrancer :)
 
'fanta', as they call it, and the Gold Coast just don't mix.
i'd probally be in hospital too if i used my mouth to measure a dose. :)
M
 
why is fanta very common on the GC?...
someone i was speaking to from BL says that someone from BL gets their fanta from the GC.
 
If you want to be safe then convert your GBL to GHB using a method which gives you a powder at the end. I just so happen to have a recipe for this. I can't post it here of course but you can see my email address. Of course I will NOT send you the link if you email me and ask for it!
Once you have powdered pure GHB dosing is very easy (and GHB is better for you than GBL). I go for 1.8 grams per dose.
Harry
 
Umm Harry, if you're not going to send people the link if they email you, then why did you even mention the fact that you have that recipe? Its not a very secret recipe either...
 
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