E Cocktails

I've never needed to dump more than one pill in a night but to those of you that do, can someone explain why people drop a consortium of different brand pills in the one night. In the months that i've been visiting this site i've come across countless accounts of people taking a cK followed by a HQ later in the night and maybe half a ferrari to finish off.
Fine poly-drop if need be but, why not stick to the one type? What good/bad experiences have been had with mixing different pills during the night?

You make an excellent point Porn*.
By combining pills from different batches, you risk combining different chemicals that can be dangerous together. These combinations may be (but are not limited to) for example: DXM/MDMA and PMA/MDMA, both of which combinations have in the past been fatal. For this reason, pill testing is essential.
Practicing dose minimisation (ie. taking LESS pills) and avoiding mixing different drugs and/or different pills will help you lower the risk of stumbling upon a bad combination that will put you at risk of hyperthermia, hypertensive shock and anxiety/panic attacks. Mixing drugs is a surefire way to increase the level of risk that you take while trying to have fun.
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Ummm... this is more BT's area than mine but as I understood it, there is no cross tolerance between drugs such as MDMA and MDA so it'll get you more toasted(if that is your thing).
If you're in for a big night out you might start with MDMA and feel the love and then drop some MDA as the peak is receding and you will get fucked up and MDA lasts for almost twice as long then about 4 hours after that you might drop another 1/2 MDMA pill as a supplement or a cheapo speed bomb(if you feel uncomfortable about carrying powder in). Well, thats how I understood the process anyways.
But I don't generally have more than one(maybe another half) unless at a long event.
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Surley MDA effects seratonin in the same way MDMA does and therefore decreases sertatonin by the same amount if not more than MDMA? Doesn't no seratonin = no sertaonin no matter which poly drug you drop today?

Right you are ruski - there's a big difference between current serotonin levels, and chemical tolerance.

hmmmm...learned something new.
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Okay, nother question then... Once all my seratonin is gone and I take another MDXX pill, what is toasting my brain then? Is it just the speed(if any) in the pill or non seratonin related effects?
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[ 22 February 2002: Message edited by: SupaDiscoBreaka ]

Taking different types of pills is fine if you've tested them and know what's in 'em. Taking MDA after MDMA will give you greater visuals and add to the rush of the roll, wont it? You guys get MDA pills? *flashes an incredible jealousy glare at SDB* Alot of people seem to like doing half a speed bomb and half a MDMA pringle. Can't say i take more than one pill to often--> like only when the first does nothing (eg green christmas trees) or when coming down, but nobody is moving in the chillout room and they just won't bloody leave.

I've talked to people that never have under 5 pills a night. One guy said 8 a night, 9 for a special occasion. Wouldn't a few of drained all the serotonin already ?

It's been a while since i've done the reading on this so i might stuff it up a bit, but here goes.
We have to avoid looking at MDMA as soley serotonin related. It also has a substantial effect on the dopamine system. one consequence of this is that once the serotonin has been "used up" MDMA will still effect dopamine levels, giving a amphetamine effet.
MDA also affects both the serotonin and dopamine systems, but it is thought that it affects the dopamine system far more than MDMA does, hence it is "speedier".
Now until recently one of the main theories behind how neurotoxicity happens had to do with excess dopamine getting into places where it shouldn't. MDA use was thought to have an increased chance of neurotoxicity for this reason.
These are all things to keep in mind when considering this issue, but above all it's important to not over simplify things. The brain is a staggeringly complex thing and can not be reduced down to simple + - equations.

Of course when you drop a second type of pill after an initial (different) one that seems to be bunk you are increasing the changes of something grim happening too-
The first pill may not be 'working' because it's inert or bunk, on the other hand, it may contain PMA or any number of other substances which will screw you over when combined with your second (MDxx?) pill...
Maybe this is obvious, but I think it's worth pointing out given the amount of times you hear people saying "i'm gonna double drop "suchandsuch", that "whatever" didn't do shit!"

I have only mixed different pills once and all other times, I have taken two/three of the same pill. I have only ever taken only one pill once (does that make sense?). I felt like i needed two on only the second time i did it- I have really only gone out on pills maybe 8 times now spaced out by a month or 6 weeks every time and already feel a pretty high tolerance. Although there seem to be more quality/stronger pills around so far this year as opposed to last couple of months of last year which may make a difference to how many i need.

simply put, you mix to reach all plateaus. i dont know the details of this, but you know some pills give you a floaty feeling and are good for dancing, and some give you a headfuck with a lot of visuals, good for sitting. thus mixing the two can possibly mean you get the best of both worlds.
i think the reason people generally always take a second pill if the first one didnt work is due to the rush of night. you have a big night planned, of even a small night, point is you plan to enjoy it. and for many people the night is potentially ruined if all their friends are running around peaking and youre sitting alone on a bunk pill. i think the push to get off chops with everyone else allows most people to throw the worry of some bad chemicals mixing out the window. also considering the stigma of 'itll never happen to me'
cant say i havent desired a second pill before when the first one did little... and i have polydropped before, but usually a mix of halves. ive only once dropped the equivalent of 2 pills in one night. 3 different pills, 1 full, and 2 halves.

melancholic, you might find that set and setting may have a direct effect on how the pill works.
Therefore, 2 different brands of pills may essentially have the same effect however the current state of mind could produce a different effect on the said person.

I feel bad when everyone talks of only needing one pill...
Mixing and matching can be really good, if you know and have tested your gear. With the advent of ezy tester - you should never be ripped off - cause if you can't test then don't buy.
As for the Q, i feel dumping in halves is a waste, so mixing say half a hq with half a batman is a hell of a way to get chopped - with a different feeling than hq and batman solo - but some new feeling.
Also, i tend to find people want to have tried as many brands as possible, they want to have 1st hand knowledge of all the pill brands. The most effective way to do this is to dump 4 different brand name pills in the one 24 hour period.
Personally, i've never had a "bad" experience, but i've had several real good .
One of my favourites - 1/2 "Meanie" trip, 1 red HQ swallowed, 1/2 Batman insuffulated. Oh dilly.