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Acupuncture

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Anyone ever experience Chinese acupuncture and herbal medicine? I have recently and if anything its pretty relaxing and revitalizing.

I busted a bunch of blood veins in my hand last week and was instructed to see an acupuncturist in chinatown. My fingers were pretty swollen with blood and blood clots and i was told that if these werent properly broken apart they could severely damage the joints in my fingers over a few years. The acupuncturist is also a lifelong student of Tai Chi.

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He put a lot of needles in my injured hand, and then two in my other hand, two in each forearm, two in each ear, two in each foot. He wriggled the needles in my injured hand while he directed my body's Xi towards the injured area. He said that it was easy to channel energy through me, and used his own to keep a continuous flow towards the area, while he went away.

Then I was left alone for 30 mins to sit in the dark and listen to some trippy ambient music. I breathed myself into a slight trance, and the time passed in an instant. He came back and jiggled the needles some more and said i had another 30 mins. When this was done, i felt really high, but a different high i had never experienced before. I felt extremely energized and very calm and relaxed. I was prescribed a bunch of herbal meds to help my blood clots break apart and send on my way.


Friends of mine that train martial arts have seen this same healer for sprained ankles, torn ACLs, other ligament damage, sprained wrists, etc, and always are able to use the respective body part within a few days, and resume martial arts training within a week to weeks (depending on severity of original injury). Rarely does anyone go through months of treatment to heal.

Has anyone seen an acupuncturist to heal, and what were your experiences like? Does anyone know the 'science' behind it?
 
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Been there once, felt like a high benzo doze, but never returned since I was afraid of getting someone's else needles on my next appointment. I'm gonna try it again, but this time I'm keeping my needles.
 
I think that with respect to hygiene they should be treated the same as a tattoo place. Before getting anything done, ask to see their autoclave, or ask that they use fresh, right-out-of-the-sterile-package needles. Both reasonable requests, and if the practitioner isn't willing to do either, then it's probably best not to deal with them.

Personally, I've never had any experience with acupuncture, but my mother tried it out when she was ill. She had a pretty severe negative reaction to it, passed out, and as soon as she woke up she was hustled out of there double-quick. Luckily she had her phone with her so that I could come and pick her up, because she wasn't anywhere near able to drive until about three hours later. The moral of the story: acupuncture is potent stuff, and in the hands of the wrong person can fuck you up.
 
My sister in law sees Master Tam and his associates in Boston for acupuncture, energy work, and massage every couple of months.
She has Crohn's disease. Along with dietary changes, she has avoided medications for the disease for 2 years.

When I was a teenager, I was treated with monthly acupuncture for menstrual cramps. It worked.
 
oh dude, id never go in any facility, be it medical or not, that would put a needle in my skin that diddnt come straight out of a fresh package.

my acupuncturist is an M.D., and he opens the needles from their package right in front of you.

and @ PI - ive heard so many success stories about this treatment alleviating damn near anything. my aunt has crippling arthritis that is alleviated from acupuncture. ive heard of people fighting off cancers and other debilitating diseases from it.

i just kinda dont get how. i suppose its really a channeling of mind(s) over matter, but im interested in the physiology behind it. its not magic.

i guess ill hit the search engines.
 
my chinese wife won't let me try one (as an alternative to a massage), since she reckons a great majority of practitioners are not qualified enough to use those tools. i think she reckons i'll get turned into a statue or someshit.
 
Maybe the high feeling was more of a meditative feeling. He gave you all of that time to be alone and reflect on your thoughts. The trippy music was surely a boost. Does it hurt at all? Is it like getting a shot or are the needles too small to feel?
 
I went to another acupuncturist (thanks to this thread for reminding me to go) yesterday. He used discardable needles (I'm pretty sure the one I went before used those too, but I was a little naive and didn't asked) and there wasn't trippy music here. I think it helped me in a way with my upside down sleeping schedule since I woke up today at 5:30 am and that doesn't happen that often. I'd recommend it to anyone with sleeping issues.
 
@ impacto - thats why you go to a "licensed" acupuncturist. like i said, mine is also a M.D.

@vincent - i meditate for a good bit at least 5 days a week. this was much different. the "trippy music" (sorry for lack of description) was really just some Chinese stringed instruments and ambient nature sounds.
 
Interesting thread. I have access to free acupuncture through an organization to which I belong (the acupuncturist has a doctoral degree in Chinese medicine, a state license, and disposable needles) and I have been thinking of trying it for both mental health and rehabilitation of a sprained ankle.

I admit I am apprehensive about the needles; I am not so much worried about the pain as I am about actually SEEING the needles - probably why I have stayed away from IV drugs ;)

I have a very open mind about "non-traditional/non-Western" healing modalities and credit much of my recovery from various injuries to chiropractic care.

rm-rf, glad you've received benefit from your treatment. I believe I will call to schedule an appointment for next week, and provided I don't chicken out, I will report back with my experience!
 
Acupuncture is great. It helped me a lot in the past. I know I posted about it one of them HL threads scattered around...I'll go look for it.
 
damn, i broke the same fucking blood vein tonight, and cant afford another acupuncture visit. shit is expensive, and western insurance typically doesnt cover this sort of thing!
 
Acupuncture is amazing. It has helped me with:

Back pain (that Western doctors/chiropractors were unable to alleviate)
Insomnia (chronic & severe)
Various addictions
Depression
Anxiety

I highly recommend it!
 
^ Word!!!! Also rm-rf, my acupuncturist was a licensed physician as well . She is very very very good.
 
I am definitely a believer in acupuncture. It has done some amazing things for me...However, not all practitioners are created equal.
 
This is for the anecdotal record. In only 2 weeks of acupuncture, my delayed sleep phase syndrome has disappeared. I've tried every drug, therapy, exercise, etc... Been to almost all neurologist & sleep specialist in my city and nothing. 2 weeks of acupuncture and it's gone, a 7 year old problem washed away in 2 fucking weeks, I can sleep now like a normal guy.

Highly recommended (be sure your acupuncturist is also an MD, not some random chinese guy).
 
I saw in Austin Texas they have the "family accupuncture clinic" It sounds way fucking gross to me.. bringing your little kid in there to get needles stuck in their body. Sick man.
 
Actually, I have heard that MDs tend to be inferior to practitioners of Chinese medicine. MDs can learn acupuncture in a few months. Sure they have all their anatomy and physiology down, but real acupuncturists study for 6 years + before getting certified and spend a LOT more time learning acupuncture and the theory behind it than most any MD will have to learn to be able to practice.

You dont want to get treatments from some random guy who just learned it as a hobby, but anyone who went to school for 6 years studying Chinese medicine complete with the system of herbal medicine plus your basic western sciences is most likely going to be superior to any MD who practices medical acupuncture.

Real acupuncturists need a Bachelors or associates plus an additional 4 or 5 years of JUST TCM training. That blows any medical acupuncture course for MDs out of the water. You cant learn all that in a 3 month crash course.
 
Sorry to open up an oldy.

I've suffered head pressures in the left side of my head for years. Opiates work (of course), benzos combined and it's completely gone (even some times benzos on their own work amazingly). I've seen chiro's, and osteo's with not much result. Suffered them since around 20 years old.

Just wondering if anyone HAS had any luck with this, or people that know much about them think it's up my ally?

EDIT: I'm talking acupuncture that is.
 
Hi OP I have created a new thread about Acupuncture:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/681145-Acupuncture

As you can see, a couple of us has felt relief after each session. I'm not sure where you are currently residing at but it might be a bit expensive for each session. I would still recommend it and please give it a try and let us know how the effects are after your first appointment.
 
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