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Methamphetamine(IV)-First Time-klonopin 0.5mg/valium10mg Oral -Dopamine Explosion

Candy_Raver

Candy_Raver

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[Warning this ROA of methamphetamine is highly addicting, and can lead quickly to very slippery slope, as harm reduction use of safer ROA is encourage]

Background: Never tried meth. Have lots of experience with its weaker cousin Adderall, used with many different ROAs, went on binges with 150mgs in one night. 230mgs a month later another session. Adderall dosn't take me where I want to be so I seek something stronger.

Dosage: Total 150mgs methamphetamine, 0.5mg klonopin, 10mg valium.
Seeing it might be cut I factored those in and took into considering, and decided to take a higher dose. This is stupid to jump to a higher dose.
T+0 minutes- 90-100mgs(IV)
T+2 minutes- 50-60mgs (IV)
T+3 minutes-After that rinsed vial, scale, and cotton filter to get whats left(IV)

Experience: Upon shooting the IV of 90-100mgs, than quickly 50-60mgs plus the rinse, the rush came and it produced intense euphoria and rushing, I call this dopamine explosion. Would describe the rush as cold waves traveling up and down my spine, which feels like 100s of orgasms exploding. The rush lasted 5 minutes but immensely intense, and transitioned into a very calm yet stimulating state. This is after the peak, this last 30 minutes.
After the rush, and the other state, I would describe that as a typical meth high, although I'm comparing with other people. After 3 hours you start coming down, still have energy, but feel on the edge. After 4 hours, your crashing harder, and really on edge.

Activity:
T+5mins- I spent the rush+ the 30 minutes afterwards feeling the effects and listening to happy hardcore music. It was 100x enhanced.
T+30mins-After those wore off, I decided to indulge in porn. For some odd reason, I was very horny, but couldn't get it up, which is very frustrating. I keep trying for hours no luck, and was sore.
T+1:45-Friend came over I got dressed, he's a longterm tweeker(2 years) and have tolerance and getting his first IV, his dose was 200mgs, which blew him away his response was "wow, omg, wow", I made some kandi bracelets while hanging out. He offered me some of his, and I mustered all my willpower and said NO. I was not trying to binge.
30 minutes later he left, and I went back to porn.
T+2:15- went back to porn keep trying but can't get it up.
T+3hours- coming down still had energy, met up with an old friend who did IV coke.
T+5hour- Still coming down, friend blacks out, I went back to porn.
T+6hour- Crashing hard, still trying to get it up with porn. Dose 0.5mg klonopin, it barely produced a dent.
T+6:30- consumed 10mg valium, it helped take the edge off, but still bad comedown.
Now: still coming down, more updates later. It will take a while to come down.

Side Effects: cotton mouth is strong, you'll need lots of water, nose will also be running. Sometimes you feel hot, and sweat, so drink lots of water. Rapid heart beat not uncommon as of all uppers.

Conclusion: IV meth produces the most orgamismic/euphoric rushes that exceeds most rushes of IV drugs, then an intense euphoric high. Overall experience when I compare to people who smoke/snort/oral says its much more calm/chill(no jitterness), and much less compulsive(need to clean) The dose I did was too high, and dangerous, especially for first time, and not try out the other ROA first. Adderall doesn’t take me where I want to go anymore, but this took me beyone and plus a mile. The overall meth experience, I wasted watching porn and trying it get it off. It could had been better spent elsewhere. IV meth is HIGHLY mentally addictive, and will quickly lead you to a slippery slope, so don't take it lightly, not to mention possible damage to your dopamine neurons since its neurotoxic. Being so I call this compound poison fire. This is my only, and last experience with meth in general, and never touch this stuff again(easior said than done as it already has an addictive pull that I'm gonna have to fight.) I don't suggest people go the IV route.

Be safe!

-PLUR
 
The closest thing to meth I've shot is MDA, I tried 100mg.

If I may ask you, how long does a shot of meth last?
 
sounds to good to be true. thats the reason I dont want to do it. not because its harmful. not because it destroys lives... actually ya. but because Id probably like it way to much
 
My duration was this:
Rushing after IV- 5 minutes(very intense rushing,very intense euphoria)
The very high feeling- 30 minutes.(very intense euphoria in a calm way)
"Normal" meth high- 2.5 hours.(A bit different than smoked/snorted,etc, the efffects more calm or chill, no impulse to go clean)
Coming down(jittery with energy)- 2-4hours
Down(tired, can't sleep)-4-8hours

I think it varies from 1-3hours. I got 3 hours out it of it because it was my first time, have no prior tolerance, and my dose was overkill. For someone who's been doing this for a while it can get to 1 hour. This is the high, not including comedown. There is the comedown with energy, it can get edgy, twitchy, and paranoid, just deal with it(benzos won't make a dent) Once you reach the comedown with little energy, its a good time to take benzos.

With the help of 0.75mg klonopin, 10mg valium, I still wasn't able to sleep, but 22 hours after the dose I took a nap. Benzos do take the edge off, such as the paranoia, and make you less shaky, also helps with anxiety.

14 hours was spent on the screen watching porn, and fooling around. Time could had been used better on other activity.

Right now its 22 and a half hours after the dose, I just took a 30 min nap, I'm feeling almost back to baseline. Heart is still a little faster, slight jittry, feel very tired, and general feeling of depression.

What I did was totally overkill, such as jumping into IV route, then taking above the suggested highest of the highest dosage on erowid, this is also my first time(people say its the best) and have no prior tolerance. If the first time is gonna be your best, I just decided to go overkill, which is reckless in a way. I'm certain I will never come close to recapturing this experience again, so just give up, and not touch it again, as its pointless to chase a high. Hopefully willpower will prevent me from using it again.

-PLUR
 
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candy raver dude its difficult to attach PLUR to this experience.

The whole thought of this sent me on a frightening evil burned out meth hed ex-candy kid shooting his skull bracelets at all the kids and trying to rape them.

stay away from the meth and pills dude. It will take you no where good. Learn peace, love, unity, and respect for everything in your life and maybe you won't feel the need to do this stuff. This seriously has depressed me...
 
ColinGibs said:
candy raver dude its difficult to attach PLUR to this experience.

The whole thought of this sent me on a frightening evil burned out meth hed ex-candy kid shooting his skull bracelets at all the kids and trying to rape them.

stay away from the meth and pills dude. It will take you no where good. Learn peace, love, unity, and respect for everything in your life and maybe you won't feel the need to do this stuff. This seriously has depressed me...
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Anything can be bad if you use it too much. I think using meth for the first time can be a wonderful experience if you are responsible before, during, AND after the experience (the after part can be the hardest and trickiest part of recreational drug use).

There's no need to get down on a person for one time when they tried a drug...have you ever tried meth?
 
Update:

I decided to try meth again, "just one more time," it so happens that my friend who has access had relapsed while in rehab, and I was offered some in exchange I'll help him do an IV, it was my only chance to try it again. I somehow believed that I can get as high as the first time, if not get higher. I was also convinced this stuff was stronger than the first batch because he told me. He also told me "just one more time, this is my last."

I loaded the same amount 0.15g into 70units, 7/10th cc, to let dissolve then into a syringe, for IV injection.

T+1-5minutes Upon injection, I felt the sensation of being shot up into heaven, it was a very euphoria and lightheaded feeling. Something was missing, I noticed despite being high, I don't feel the "orgasm waves" or what I describe as full body orgasm.

T+ 45 minutes still feeling quite high, but now a normal tweeking high.

Also my policy is do one dose, and not redose, deal with the comedown hence preventing me from binging. Unlike other folks who send themselves into psychosis through binges. I feel the need to dose again after I gotten decent sleep, shower, brushed teeth, and eatten enough food.

I'll report back later, I realized I'm just chasing after the 1st high, which is rather pointless. I was rather highly disappointed that I didn't even come close to what I felt my first high. Hopefully this is my last time, and my friend dosn't relapse, I don't have access except him, and I'm not willing to find hooks.

-PLUR
 
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Candy_Raver said:
I loaded the same amount 0.15g into 70cc, to let dissolve then into a syringe, for IV injection.
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It's actually 70 units, which is 7/10 of 1CC.

I'll report back later, I realized I'm just chasing after the 1st high, which is rather pointless. Hopefully this is my last time, and my friend dosn't relapse, I don't have access except him, and I'm not willing to find hooks.

-PLUR
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I'm glad to hear this is your last time, and good luck with it. :)
 
Thanks CH for telling me the errors, I was still intoxicated when I wrote the report, and I made my corrections so people will not get the wrong data.

The previous experience almost two weeks ago the total amount of time I was up was 64 hours before getting double digit sleep.
T+22 with klonopin 0.5mg, and valium 10mg, and a tiny bit of alcohol, was able to get a 20 min nap.
T+27 hours 0.25mg klonopin, 25mgs seroquil, produced a 25 minutes nap.
T+64 hours 20mgs nitrazepam, 25mgs seroquil, able to knock out for 11 hours.
Next night, nothing, knocked out for 11.5 hours. Seroquil isn't very sedative like to me, I take 15mgs of Mirtizapine every night as its my prescription, and that already messes with my H1 receptors.

This time the duration felt shorter than the previous experiences, and the comedown came sooner.
It's T+8 hours, already come down, still feel a small amount of energy, time to ride it out, in a little bit will relax with a little nitrazepam. When I start to come down completely, time for doses of Vitamin C, Vitamin B Complex, Magnesium, and L-Tyrosine as dopamine precurser.

I love stimulants as euphorants, they are superior in euphoria producing than opiates IMHO(subjective) which is why there's is a strong urge to want to repeat the experience again, and meth very well is the most addictive compound I've ever tried. It's scary how it warps your perception, then you keep telling yourself, just one more time, everything is under control.

My list of the most Moreish: Meth(IV)>>>Crack(smoked)>>>Cocaine(IV)>>>MDPV(snorted)>>>Mephedrone(rectal)>>>Amphetamine(IV,rectal,snorted)>>>Methylone(IV)>>>Cocaine(snorted)>>>MDMA(rectal)
I swore to never touch crack again, its a waste of $, same with cocaine, now meth is added to the list, and most stimulants I will not be touching again as I seem to like them too much.

Opiates are also addictive not to the level of stimulant euphorants IMO, it varies among people.
Hydromorphone(IV)>>>Heroin(IV)>>>>Oxymorphone(IV) Oxycodone(IV)>>>Morphine(IV)
I don't have much of a desire to use opiates again after meth.




-PLUR
 
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CandyRaver, i urge you to be careful- i saw in another first time IV meth thread that you are thinking about trying it again (but have no contact)-- in this TR you firmly say that you are not going to be trying it again.
"This is my only, and last experience with meth in general, and never touch this stuff again"

food for thought...

edit: woops, i missed the part where you said you had aleady tried it again. ok well heres my thoughts.. wake up to yourself... "i hope i have the willpower not to try it again", "my friend said this is his last time"..

DONT YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING?!?!

you see the addiction to meth that your friends have, and you only HOPE that you arent gona turn into that.. how about, you tell yourself- i HAVE the willpower not to try it again, and then you actually follow through with it by NOT TRYING IT AGAIN?!

holy shit dude, you are already giving yourself excuses to try it again..

if you really PLUR, then learn some respect for yourself as well...
 
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I recently shot up a gram of meth over a few nights. I had very little experience with meth before this, but it goes without saying that I'm addicted to the needle (why else would someone with little experience shoot up meth?) because of coke and heroin in my past. I was doing really big shots that I undoubtedly shouldn't have been with my tolerance. I don't even remember a lot of the binge and wasn't keeping particularly good track of the sizes of the shots (and often combined them with heroin), but did you ever get like a buzzing in your ears after a shot? I haven't heard this too often with IV meth (it is common with IV coke). I had that and some slight visual shifting, some blurriness, with some of my bigger shots. Yeah, that rush is really good, but meth really made me crazy, because unlike you I wasn't able to stick to the one-shot rule and would keep doing it over and over, because it was like well I can't sleep, so why should I come down if I can't sleep anyways? Ugh, I look back on that period a few weeks ago with disgust, but when I think about the rush, do I crave it? Yes. It's not as powerful as an IV coke rush, but it has its own unique appeal. I crave that like cold feeling that blooms from your chest after a big shot and spreads out to your extremities.

I was (will always be?) a heroin addict for a good year of my life, but I agree with you that stimulants (especially IV) cause more euphoria than opiates do, and psychologically I crave them more than I do heroin. I'm not sure I'd agree that IV meth is more "moreish" than IV coke, but they are both pretty comparable. I like the IV coke rush more (especially with a solid bellringer, although I don't think I push things as far as some people I read about here no BL doing quarter-gram shots!), and I find it more euphoric and completely and soul-shatteringly overpowering, but meth has its own unique rush like I said. Ugh, I really shouldn't be reading/thinking about this. I am really trying to give up drugs in general (mostly just the ones I'm addicted to, but aren't those the only ones I care about doing anyways?), and I had made it over 3 months sober before this last relapse (a record for me since I got more seriously into my addiction). I really hope you don't succumb to doing meth more and more, but please keep us posted. I understand its pull all too well even after doing it only a few times in the last few weeks. I don't think I could make it a habit like I did with heroin, just because it fucks you up, mentally and physically, so much. Just from that gram binge, I went into meth psychosis and was talking to people that weren't there in front of my parents on my third day without sleep. The paranoia also was there, especially when I was using meth after an IV crack binge. Ugh. I will plunge myself back into the world of literature, film, and music to make me forget about these things, because I really don't plan on ever going back.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Anything can be bad if you use it too much. I think using meth for the first time can be a wonderful experience if you are responsible before, during, AND after the experience (the after part can be the hardest and trickiest part of recreational drug use).

There's no need to get down on a person for one time when they tried a drug...have you ever tried meth?
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the other dude above me agrees with what I said.

I'm not bagging meth for meth heads. Certainly not for Captain Heroin lol. But it's not too good of an example for the kid who wants to be a candy kid and comes on here to look at an MDMA report, sees the SN candyraver, who's got PLUR on all his posts and his avatar and so on is going on 3 day meth benzo and antipsych binges and saying he's cool with it in a very confident matter is NOT harm reduction at all, even if that was the intention, but since it wasn't, this INCREASES harm to MANY PEOPLE.

I have taken meth before, not smoked, and not really that intentionally. I was addicted to amps for a period of a year or so, and i ate a ton of honestly really good meth bomby E pills over the course of a month, basically without knowing or caring, when I was at a bad point in my life, and it definitely took some time to recover. Like about a year or so. Meth is NOT A RECREATIONAL DRUG THAT SHOULD BE MARKETED TOWARDS CANDYKIDS. Bikers, people in the boonies, supermoms, and tweakervikings keep this shit away from the damn general public please.

Burned out dopamine receptors are NOT a good thing to have. FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME. METH does NOT bring peace, love, respect, or unity. Even if you achieve it during the ridiculous period of effect of the high, you will not be able to retain those thought patterns through the after period of recovery, which is not instant, even for one use. Regardless of medical effects, it's effects on the PSYCHE are obvious.

When you can't feel good after you feel good about being good because there is no "feel good" to lead you to what's good, you can't be good.

heehee basically candy raver even tho you feel fine think of a year from now. You don't want these to be your maxed out life experiences man. Spread it out. Take some time off. Stop resisting change. PLUR in your direction. I'm really sending you hope..



i just wanted to emphasize that the caps are only meant to emphasize lol, not like im shouting them, just like im talking into them.
 
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This has me highly concerned for two reasons.
1.) I first tried meth in February of 2000 and didn't stop until October of 2002. I smoked, snorted, and ate up to 2.0g a day. When I decided to try it IV I started with 1/5 cc and felt practically nothing, only my heartbeat speed up a little. T+2min I injected 4/5 cc... Multiple full body orgasms, fluids included. As much as I loved it, it scared the hell out of me. It scared me enough that I looked in the mirror and saw a 123lbs 6'1" man that was once 195lbs and I didn't touch it again. Back then IV use of meth was rare where I live (as far as I know). I partied everyday except Tuesday night and Wednesday. I traveled all over the southeastern 1/4 of North America. So my first concern is that 8yrs ago IV meth use was very minimal at best.

2.) In Janurary of 2007 I met the woman that became my wife and the mother of my daughter. I could tell she was using meth when we met, but I didn't know her method of administration until two weeks later. Her IV use had started about 2-3 months before we met and she had only been using for 6 months. She was going through almost an 8 ball (3.75g) a day IV!! She wasn't far from dying. She asked for my help and nothing and no one except God could have stopped me from giving her the help she needed. She wouldn't go into treatment or a hospital. The addiction had become complete dependency, it was no longer a habit but a requirement to live. I will not go into the story of her personal life at that time, too much drama and too much to tell in this post. For the next 6 months I was THE ONLY person that stood by her side while she fought an impossible battle to stop using. She made the impossible possible. I played an enormous role in her recovery, but she did it all on her own. My second concern was seeing how IV use of meth had escalated.

2 months clean, we got pregnant. (I say we because it takes two ya know) The mental effects of such heavy meth use were still there although nothing like when we first met. We were married, happy, and the three of us were enjoying life. (She had a 2yr old son when we met) Our daughter was born with zero birth defects, to us it was a miracle and blessing. My wife still suffered from her addiction, even 2 1/2 years later. Her anxiety was unreal, and drinking was what she had turned to since our little girl was born. My wife and daughter were driving back to the lake house (we were re-living our honeymoon) but she went into one of her spells (as I call them) just before she got in the car. No one witnessed the accident so there's no way to know what happened for sure. The car flipped several times throwing my wife out and killing her. (no seat belt) The entire car was crushed except for where our daughter was sitting. She didn't have a scratch on her.

That meth addiction from years before left my wife's psychological state of mind so screwed up it killed her, and nearly killed our little girl. It's torn several families apart, my step-son and my daughter rarely see one another now, I'm in a custody battle for my own daughter because of my own meth addiction from 8yrs ago. My inlaws are affraid I'll do the same thing my wife did.

As far as harm reduction goes for IV meth, just don't do it. If you do then only do it once and never again, but it's too hard to do that in my opinion. I went for 8 years after only trying it once... Depression sucks, I've been taking 40mg of Adderall a day for two years, 3-4mg Clonazepam a day for 4yrs, 200mg of lamotrigine a day for 7 years, and 100-400mg of Seroquel as needed for 10 years. I'm Bi-Polar Type I and have been since my teens. I gave in once three weeks ago, but it only took two weeks to end up where my wife was when I met her. 3.75g a day... I'm now at 0.0g a day but this is hard, and I mean HARD as hell!! I'm begging you, if you're reading this, don't do it... Not through IV. There's four other ways to do it that aren't even close to this detrimental.

I've done everything out there and done them every way humanly possible. I don't know if this is exactly where this post belongs, but I had to share this with everyone.

Always remember, control what you do. Don't let what you do control you.
And btw, well over half the people I know that do meth now prefer IV over all else...

Be safe & God bless [o<



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ColinGibs said:
the other dude above me agrees with what I said.

I'm not bagging meth for meth heads. Certainly not for Captain Heroin lol. But it's not too good of an example for the kid who wants to be a candy kid and comes on here to look at an MDMA report, sees the SN candyraver, who's got PLUR on all his posts and his avatar and so on is going on 3 day meth benzo and antipsych binges and saying he's cool with it in a very confident matter is NOT harm reduction at all, even if that was the intention, but since it wasn't, this INCREASES harm to MANY PEOPLE.

I have taken meth before, not smoked, and not really that intentionally. I was addicted to amps for a period of a year or so, and i ate a ton of honestly really good meth bomby E pills over the course of a month, basically without knowing or caring, when I was at a bad point in my life, and it definitely took some time to recover. Like about a year or so. Meth is NOT A RECREATIONAL DRUG THAT SHOULD BE MARKETED TOWARDS CANDYKIDS. Bikers, people in the boonies, supermoms, and tweakervikings keep this shit away from the damn general public please.

Burned out dopamine receptors are NOT a good thing to have. FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME. METH does NOT bring peace, love, respect, or unity. Even if you achieve it during the ridiculous period of effect of the high, you will not be able to retain those thought patterns through the after period of recovery, which is not instant, even for one use. Regardless of medical effects, it's effects on the PSYCHE are obvious.

When you can't feel good after you feel good about being good because there is no "feel good" to lead you to what's good, you can't be good.

heehee basically candy raver even tho you feel fine think of a year from now. You don't want these to be your maxed out life experiences man. Spread it out. Take some time off. Stop resisting change. PLUR in your direction. I'm really sending you hope..



i just wanted to emphasize that the caps are only meant to emphasize lol, not like im shouting them, just like im talking into them.
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I think if you're someone who is predisposed to addiction, especially towards stimulant drugs, meth isn't the best drug for you to try. However I think a lot of the things you said here were wrong, meth has been a really awesome experience for people who don't find it addictive.
 
No need to bring back a dead topic, but this is an update on my situation.

Every since my first IV methamphetamine, I have only IV methamphetamine twice after that, thankfully my connect ended up in rehab, and I also lost touch with him so I don't have a connect to obtain this drug. I too also ended up in rehab over another drug addiction and was in inpatient for 3 months. I will say this, even tho its been over two years since I did meth, I still think about it, and get cravings. If the cravings get intense enough, it feels like I'm about to have a panic attack. I did not turn out to be a tweeker, but if I ever had the chance to do it again and it comes across me, I would bang it in a heartbeat.

If someone told me there was a hit of meth in a bag of in a barn filled with piles of hay by the tons, I would frantically search through all of it so I can find the needle in a haystack. It dosn't matter if it will take me 3 days or one week, but that is how badly I wanted to do this stuff again even after being 2 years clean.

Moral of the story, don't IV meth, its a extremely addictive, there are neurotoxic claims at these high doses. I'd say if you have an addictive personality please avoid this drug period. Even tho I managed to escape it without turning into a tweeker, the cravings even after two years are still here in my head.

-PLUR
 
ColinGibs said:
the other dude above me agrees with what I said.

I'm not bagging meth for meth heads. Certainly not for Captain Heroin lol. But it's not too good of an example for the kid who wants to be a candy kid and comes on here to look at an MDMA report, sees the SN candyraver, who's got PLUR on all his posts and his avatar and so on is going on 3 day meth benzo and antipsych binges and saying he's cool with it in a very confident matter is NOT harm reduction at all, even if that was the intention, but since it wasn't, this INCREASES harm to MANY PEOPLE.

I have taken meth before, not smoked, and not really that intentionally. I was addicted to amps for a period of a year or so, and i ate a ton of honestly really good meth bomby E pills over the course of a month, basically without knowing or caring, when I was at a bad point in my life, and it definitely took some time to recover. Like about a year or so. Meth is NOT A RECREATIONAL DRUG THAT SHOULD BE MARKETED TOWARDS CANDYKIDS. Bikers, people in the boonies, supermoms, and tweakervikings keep this shit away from the damn general public please.

Burned out dopamine receptors are NOT a good thing to have. FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME. METH does NOT bring peace, love, respect, or unity. Even if you achieve it during the ridiculous period of effect of the high, you will not be able to retain those thought patterns through the after period of recovery, which is not instant, even for one use. Regardless of medical effects, it's effects on the PSYCHE are obvious.

When you can't feel good after you feel good about being good because there is no "feel good" to lead you to what's good, you can't be good.

heehee basically candy raver even tho you feel fine think of a year from now. You don't want these to be your maxed out life experiences man. Spread it out. Take some time off. Stop resisting change. PLUR in your direction. I'm really sending you hope..



i just wanted to emphasize that the caps are only meant to emphasize lol, not like im shouting them, just like im talking into them.
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Wow man. Candy kids do stupid shit. They use drugs. Club drugs. Meth is really kinda clubbish to be perfectly honest with you. I do not promote using it I know how much Ambitions get LOST and Girls I urge not to do it unless with girlfriends. Im not totally against what your saying but to.say meth is for bikers and tweakervikings only is Idiotic. I know a Lot and have seen a Lot of pretty gay bous/men and Rich people do this like water. Some drugs just are Not for everyone but neither is DMT,E,K,G,Or Cocaine. Whatever a candy kid really is whatever but drugs will be used by everyone and calling someone trashy for using a certain drug is lame. Ecstacys not that far off from Meth you know. Not as far as a lot think.
 
Candy_Raver said:
No need to bring back a dead topic, but this is an update on my situation.

Every since my first IV methamphetamine, I have only IV methamphetamine twice after that, thankfully my connect ended up in rehab, and I also lost touch with him so I don't have a connect to obtain this drug. I too also ended up in rehab over another drug addiction and was in inpatient for 3 months. I will say this, even tho its been over two years since I did meth, I still think about it, and get cravings. If the cravings get intense enough, it feels like I'm about to have a panic attack. I did not turn out to be a tweeker, but if I ever had the chance to do it again and it comes across me, I would bang it in a heartbeat.

If someone told me there was a hit of meth in a bag of in a barn filled with piles of hay by the tons, I would frantically search through all of it so I can find the needle in a haystack. It dosn't matter if it will take me 3 days or one week, but that is how badly I wanted to do this stuff again even after being 2 years clean.

Moral of the story, don't IV meth, its a extremely addictive, there are neurotoxic claims at these high doses. I'd say if you have an addictive personality please avoid this drug period. Even tho I managed to escape it without turning into a tweeker, the cravings even after two years are still here in my head.

-PLUR
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but have you been taking adderall??? cos if you have then it will drag the cravings out. to get rid of amphetamine cravings avoid amphetamines of any kind like the plague and they will go.

basically any type of amphetamine type drug like mephedrone, methamphetamine, adderall, mdma, dexedrine . any of these releasers will probably trigger cravings but get over it cos they're not worth burning out for...
 
I don't know what kind of ice you're getting, but the stuff I do has a good 5 minute rush, then 12+ hours of intense tweakin'. Sounds like you need better connects.
 
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