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Heroin should Be Used As Treatment Expert Says

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the Globe & Mail

by Justine Hunter

6/3/2009


Heroin Should Be Used As Treatment, Expert Says

Even if groundbreaking research into a substitute treatment for heroin is successful, heroin itself should be available as a medical option for addicts, a top addictions researcher told The Globe and Mail Tuesday.

“Like in any other medical condition, patients respond well to a given treatment, but not all of them,” Eugenia Oviedo-Joekes said in a forum on The Globe's website.

Dr. Oviedo-Joekes is a principal investigator of the SALOME project, which is recruiting heroin addicts for a medical trial that will offer both heroin and a legal narcotic substitute to determine their effectiveness as a harm-reduction treatment. While the long-term goal is to help the addicts get off hard drugs, in the short term, the plan is to get them away from the more dangerous aspects of heroin addiction, such as committing crimes, sharing needles, and shooting up in back alleys.

The Study to Assess Longer-term Opioid Medication Effectiveness, set to open clinics in Montreal and Vancouver by the end of this year, is building on a previous medical trial that found addicts were healthier and committed fewer crimes when given heroin in a clinic.

Dr. Oviedo-Joekes said there is already ample evidence that heroin is an effective medical treatment for addicts who have not responded to traditional methadone treatment: “Methadone works very well, [but] not for everyone. We need alternatives to avoid leaving behind anyone that needs care.”

Later, she said the SALOME trial will be the first to measure in depth whether Hydromorphone, a legal narcotic available by prescription in Canada under the name Dilaudid, can work as a substitute treatment.


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A clinic station where a patient can administer their dose of heroin is seen in Montreal on Monday June 6, 2005.


“Heroin-assisted treatment works; I cannot go against the evidence. If Hydromorphone works as good as heroin, we can provide an alternative until our society is ready to accept other approaches, such as heroin.

“There is no treatment that will be effective for everyone, and we need to have alternatives ready.”

In the SALOME trial, roughly 200 addicts will be offered either heroin or Hydromorphone in double-blind tests. In a second stage, researchers will offer subjects the same drugs in pill form to test a safer alternative to injection treatment.

Dr. Oviedo-Joekes noted that between 15 and 25 per cent of people who have tried methadone to break their habit have ended up back on the street using illicit drugs. That's the group from which the trial will recruit addicts: “We are looking for people who have tried [methadone] and are still using opiates daily in the street.”

She noted that heroin treatment is still a tough sell in Canada, although it is being tried in several European countries. But she said it is a necessary step toward a more effective approach to drug addiction problems that are so visible in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.

“It's not one trial that is going to save the Downtown Eastside. It's a vision of treating these most vulnerable people who deserve our care and our time and our money.”

Dr. Perry Kendall, the provincial health officer, said he supports the medical trial.

“It's really valid research and it opens up options for different treatment,” he said in an interview. “If you could substitute Hydromorphone, that doesn't have the stigma or the regulatory hoops you have to go through if you are importing heroin. It becomes a lot more feasible and a lot cheaper.”

But he said a political commitment is needed to follow through in any meaningful way.

“It will be nothing if we don't have the facilities to deliver it as a specialized treatment,” he said. “At the moment we are facing some tough choices in a very tight budget year, and that's where some of the issues of stigma come in because you're competing with highly expensive cancer treatments and hip replacements for people who have worked all their lives.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...used-as-treatment-expert-says/article1165968/
 
This was already tried in Canada, and proven successful, with heroin. NAOMI

“It's really valid research and it opens up options for different treatment,” he said in an interview. “If you could substitute Hydromorphone, that doesn't have the stigma or the regulatory hoops you have to go through if you are importing heroin. It becomes a lot more feasible and a lot cheaper.”
Really, hydromorphone would be cheaper? I wonder who will be making and providing this hydromorphone?
 
Nooo fucking dopehead would trade dope for dillys. they are like a 5 second rush, and thats it. it aint even a real high. That shit aint nothing compared to diesel. also the rush of dilaudid is all physical and not mental like with dope. it just kind of goes thru your body like a pleasurable electric shock, and then its gone,leavin u with no real high at all and none of that noddin, out of it 'wats my name n where am i' feeling that alot of us dopeheads live for.
 
This is seperate from NAOMI. Thats why I posted it; it's an example of the normalization of Heroin used in treatment in Canada- which is proof of progress :)

Diamorphine is expensive because, from what I understand, all of the Diamorphine being used in all of the international Heroin maintenance programs and pilot programs/studies is manufactured specifically for the purpose by the Swiss. So every country that wants to start a Heroin study or maintenance program, has to order it from the Swiss- which is very expensive.

Canada made a special note of this in their discussions of expanding NAOMI into a permanent treatment; that it was too expensive to order all of the Diamorphine used from the Swiss.

Hydromorphone in such a program could just be diverted from existant medical sources (which is what happens with the Methadone programs).

The Austrailians have been looking into an IV Hydromorphone maintenance program instead of a Diamorphine program due to special language in the Austrailian laws (apparently it would take a special amendment to allow the importation of an illegal substance, even for study purposes).

I'm pretty sure NAOMI included a sample of people who were maintained on IV Hydromorphone (and another sample on oral Methadone), The Dutch and Swiss did trials on IV Morphine maintenance, the English and Dutch tried IV Methadone. The Swiss tried oral Dextromoramide.

None of these drugs work as well as Diamorphine. For maintenance purposes, extended release Hydromorphone, Morphine, etc have been proven to be just as if not more effective than oral Methadone maintenance.

But for IV opioid maintenance, nothing is superior to Diamorphine. It is wishful thinking to believe otherwise.
 
Later, she said the SALOME trial will be the first to measure in depth whether Hydromorphone, a legal narcotic available by prescription in Canada under the name Dilaudid, can work as a substitute treatment.
that would be a fucking lovely treatment :)
 
Canada made a special note of this in their discussions of expanding NAOMI into a permanent treatment; that it was too expensive to order all of the Diamorphine used from the Swiss.
I wasn't aware of that. I'm sure they could work something out to cut down the price, though. As you know, it's quite an easy drug to synthesize, so the only real issue would be security and whatever bureaucratic bs that exists.


Lacey brings up a good point. Is this going to be as successful with hydromorphone as it would be with heroin? We all like the rush, but the duration just isn't there...

I'm pretty sure NAOMI included a sample of people who were maintained on IV Hydromorphone (and another sample on oral Methadone), The Dutch and Swiss did trials on IV Morphine maintenance, the English and Dutch tried IV Methadone. The Swiss tried oral Dextromoramide.
Yes, I believe they did have one sample with hydromorphone and one with methadone as well. (Sucks if you ended up with the methadone. :|) The Swiss also did trials with heroin maintenance, I believe they were the first ones. Also, diamorphine used to be commonly prescribed to addicts in UK, still is to a much lesser degree... And if I remember correctly, it was also prescribed to addicts in the US, I wanna say in the '20's and '30's though.
 
I'm pretty sure either 1916 or 1919 is when the US made it illegal to maintain addicts.
 
Oral extended release Hydromorphone (HydromorphContin, Jurnista) are used in other countries for ORT; Axxia Pharma have been working on a subcutaneous pellet depot with Hydromorphone as an alternative to Methadone maintenance for ORT patients who have a hard time with Methadone's side effects. Oral and longterm depot injections of Hydromorphone are a valuable alternative to MMT; Hydromorphone has less severe side effects (less sweating, less severe constipation) and lacks a few negative side effects of Methadone (the emotional/physical dissociation from NMDA antagonism, internal temperature rising/feeling hot all the time, etc).

The duration is way too short, the post-rush effects are minimal, and in these programs the patient has to attend a clinic to inject; with Hydromorphone, if the patient needed a shot every 4 hours (which is most likely the case), that would mean 6 trips to the consumption room of the ORT clinic a day.

The US did have Heroin/Morphine IV maintenance clinics all over the country after the Harrison Act passed; however, an amendment was made to the Harrison act a few years later that made it illegal for a US physician to prescribe any narcotic for the purpose of maintenance or taper to a 'known dope fiend'.

These clinics, aside from the NYC clinic (which was mismanaged), were complete successes; local papers wrote glowing reviews of the treatment, the staff, the patients health and progress, etc.

The UK still has a system where a doctor can prescribe any drug to anyone for any purpose as they see fit, but after the 1960s the US started pressuring the UK to stop allowing prescribers to script Heroin, Cocaine, Cannabis tincture, etc to drug addicts and users. Though it still kept up, today several hundred people are prescribed ampoules for IV of Diamorphine, Cocaine, Methadone, etc. Several dozen patients in the UK are prescribed both IV Cocaine and IV Heroin everyday. Instead of expanding the already existing system, the British seem to be copying the mainland European trends (Heroin maintenance via clinics, opening consumption rooms, funding needle exchanges, etc).

The NAOMI project apparently ordered the Swiss big pharma manufactured Heroin (I forget the brand name, it's something like 'Diaphin'), which is escorted by armed gaurds to Canada. Plus the red tape at customs verifying the paperwork and shipment, etc. Lots of willies about pure Heroin being passed around.
 
I dunno. I live in USA where we will NEVER have the option of diamorphine maintenance so I think alotta dopeheads here would chose IV dilly maintenance over oral methadone. Although they're considering a oral XR oxymorphone pill(s) as an alternative to subs or mdone since you could detox off oxymorphone in a week and be feeling ok a month later vs the multiple month slow withdrawal from methadone followed by 6 weeks without sleep or eating after your last dose.
 
Why not just use IV morphine? I'd imagine it's pretty close to heroin and there should be no problems with availability.
 
Oral extended release Hydromorphone (HydromorphContin, Jurnista) are used in other countries for ORT

These would be perfect for maintenance. I used to take Jurnista to get high and they offered an amazing, all day buzz without redosing or fucking around with needles.

Only issue I can see is that you might wake up sick the next morning, I only took them occasionally so I can't comment on that aspect.
 
To me I just see it as another pain killer medication with a shitty reputation. The fact that it's schedule 1 is dumb as hell.

I bet if they just called it diacetyl morphine all of the stupid ass people wouldn't even know they were getting Heroin.

But I vote Ibogaine, ketamine or marijuana for addiction treatment alongside tapering lower doses of an opiate. Treatments should use dissociatives to help nullify the fog and shock of coming off high doses of the medication.
 
To me I just see it as another pain killer medication with a shitty reputation. The fact that it's schedule 1 is dumb as hell.

I bet if they just called it diacetyl morphine all of the stupid ass people wouldn't even know they were getting Heroin.

But I vote Ibogaine, ketamine or marijuana for addiction treatment alongside tapering lower doses of an opiate. Treatments should use dissociatives to help nullify the fog and shock of coming off high doses of the medication.

That might work for some people, but surely you're not suggesting that everyone should do it?
 
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