tv: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew

anyone seen the show? any thoughts?

what happened to Shifty? i use to think he was hot ... now he just looks like another crack whore turning tricks on the street corners. shame

Dr. Drew is a huge tool.

He says all hallucinogens, including marijuana, are neurotoxic, and ecstasy causes frighteningly destructive brain damage after one dose. Even Adam Carolla used to call him on his bullshit when they co-hosted Loveline. I remember one time when Adam was talking about having done mushrooms back in the day, and Dr. Drew started going off about how mushrooms cause excitotoxicity in brain cells, and it's been proven, and that he's had patients who are braindead because of it. Riiiiight.

Adam simply replied with, "Yeah, whatever. You know what Drew, you represent The Man."

^oh, scoff all you want, but Dr Drew knows his stuff. He knows it from a medical/clinical point of view, however, not from personal experience. a good friend of mine has a brother who is an addiction medicine specialist, and has never done a single drug for recreational purposes. so you can't expect the guy to relate to the drug experience from the same side of the fence, because he hasn't been there. he can only see it from the side of an observer, but that doesn't take away from the extensive knowledge that he has (knowledge that people here will likewise go to any extent possible to chip away at to justify their own behavior). Honestly, do you really think he's going to brush off extreme cat scan and MRI results because someone tells him how cool it was to have a conversation with their dog about religion when they were tripping nuts?

It's frustrating to hear the medical point of view on the evils when they gloss over all the fun and possible benefits someone may have gained from their experiences, but they're doing their job based on physical and mental problematic results. But yeah, my friend used to argue with his brother that his job was equivalent to a celibate priest counselling a married couple in need of sexual advice. There's only so much he could say in an attempt to relate :D

I saw a Loveline where he said even light to moderate marijuana usage results in a depressed libido. I can tell you that is patently false.

And further.... there really is no solid evidence to show psilocybin based mushrooms to be neurotoxic to any great degree. The data about MDMA is a little more controversial, but I highly doubt a single dose causes "frighteningly destructive brain damage."

Dr. Drew IS a tool. That doesn't mean you should run around throwing caution to the wind and ingesting whatever, whenever... but scare tactics are just SO 1980s.

IcebergSlim said:

i could resist watching it, that dude jeff conaway needs it more than any of them. shit was hilarious when his girl dropped him off in the benz n' he was slumped over with a bottle of dom perignon and champagne glass lol

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yeah man that guy is the one going to be suffering the most from WD's
no one else in the group can even compare.

I cannot believe how ridiculous that show is. He was telling Jaimee Foxworth who had the "weed addiction" that since she smoked about an eighth a day she would be experiencing "heroin type withdrawal syndrome". First of all, that's complete bullshit, and second of all, why waste time with a "weed addict" when there's other people who need treatment so much more? I realize they can really only get washed-up D celebrities to do the show, but come on!

vibr8tor said:

^oh, scoff all you want, but Dr Drew knows his stuff. He knows it from a medical/clinical point of view, however, not from personal experience. a good friend of mine has a brother who is an addiction medicine specialist, and has never done a single drug for recreational purposes. so you can't expect the guy to relate to the drug experience from the same side of the fence, because he hasn't been there. he can only see it from the side of an observer, but that doesn't take away from the extensive knowledge that he has (knowledge that people here will likewise go to any extent possible to chip away at to justify their own behavior). Honestly, do you really think he's going to brush off extreme cat scan and MRI results because someone tells him how cool it was to have a conversation with their dog about religion when they were tripping nuts?

It's frustrating to hear the medical point of view on the evils when they gloss over all the fun and possible benefits someone may have gained from their experiences, but they're doing their job based on physical and mental problematic results. But yeah, my friend used to argue with his brother that his job was equivalent to a celibate priest counselling a married couple in need of sexual advice. There's only so much he could say in an attempt to relate :D

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I still think he overblows it all. He also loves to talk about the "this is your brain, this is your brain on ecstasy" photos, the ones that were completely full of shit. Ah well.

Indelibleface said:

Dr. Drew is a huge tool.

He says all hallucinogens, including marijuana, are neurotoxic, and ecstasy causes frighteningly destructive brain damage after one dose. Even Adam Carolla used to call him on his bullshit when they co-hosted Loveline. I remember one time when Adam was talking about having done mushrooms back in the day, and Dr. Drew started going off about how mushrooms cause excitotoxicity in brain cells, and it's been proven, and that he's had patients who are braindead because of it. Riiiiight.

Adam simply replied with, "Yeah, whatever. You know what Drew, you represent The Man."

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Uh you do know Adam was making fun of druggies with that statement right? Unless you're being sarcastic too?

I think Dr. Drew is misinformed on some things but he's just got a really adamant, conservative viewpoint on drugs from all he has seen and he takes all the studies he reads to heart.

vibr8tor said:

^oh, scoff all you want, but Dr Drew knows his stuff.

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So you're saying all that stuff is completely correct?

Thats like talking about sex and mentioning nothing but how risky it is and talking about STD rates.

It manages to completely miss the point. Outside observers cannot always have a realistic view on things.

Do you guys even understand why dr. drew is even doing this show? Can you grasp the concept behind why they would have a show that is based on "celebrity's" rather than a show like intervention involving ordinary people?

What the fuck is wrong with some of you people?

Yes I agree that Dr. Drew does not have the experience and facts dead on but the guy didn't go to school to become a drug addiction expert now did he?

I think the show is a great thing and should probably open a lot of peoples eyes about the dangers of drugs when not used in moderation.

so distorting the truth and blowing the dangers of drug use out of proportion are a good tactic to prevent people from abusing them?

hmmm is that you nancy? i just said no... but then i reconsidered when i saw that marijuana didnt make people want to rape and murder!

a clear and honest appraisal of the real dangers of drug use that is done without propagandizing would be far more effective in preventing drug abuse.

beachsidefl321 said:

Do you guys even understand why dr. drew is even doing this show? Can you grasp the concept behind why they would have a show that is based on "celebrity's" rather than a show like intervention involving ordinary people?

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No.

Please enlighten us, oh great one. 8)

yea dr drew is a tool. good for him, he completed however many years or medical school and training, but i wonder at what stage they taught him the scare tactics. i wastched like 15 mins of that show and it was so fucking bogus.

intervention sucks too tho.

I here you guys speaking of scare tactics and propaganda and what not.... but when exactly does the guy preach the shit during the show? am i missing something?

When I saw the show I saw some people going through detox and having the normal WD symptoms that occur when an addict decides enough is enough...

Someone above mentions something about this is your brain on ecstasy...well who the fuck is in the rehab for E anyway?

I don't know if any of you have ever been to rehab. But you sort of have to treat it like an AA/NA meeting and just take in what you feel is good. Scare tactics? Yes i agree that misinforming people is wrong but if you're using drugs you should probably be pretty educated on the drug(s) you are using anyway and know when to call bullshit.

Rehab isn't about arguing the effects of this drug and that drug and what it can do to you. It's about giving you the right tools to use for getting you the fuck off of them so you can lead a normal life.

MaxPowers said:

No.

Please enlighten us, oh great one. 8)

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keep your pointless posts off my thread.

It was a serious question.

A non-serious question would be asking why you have such a fucking hard-on for Volcom.

MaxPowers said:

It was a serious question.

A non-serious question would be asking why you have such a fucking hard-on for Volcom.

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Wow I thought you were being sarcastic. Apparently not.

The point of having a celeb. based rehab show instead of a joe blow intervention is that people look up to celebs. They watch the show and say wow even that really tallented, smart, good looking Hollywood actor got addicted to drugs??? and went to rehab to clean up? shit then I can do it too.

and if you really want to know about volcom you can pm me but I'll keep the thread ON TOPIC.

having personal experience with inpatient-rehab and numerous addictions and have seen basically the worst it can possibly get...I feel same in my opinion that everybody on that show with the exception of Jeff--who REALLY does need the help--are a bunch of washed-up whiners looking for a second chance at fame and notoriety.

That girl from Family Matters who "smokes too much pot" needs to get smacked. In that home video they showed of her with friends smokin blunts "we just smoked 12 blunts and you want to smoke another one!" What the hell is wrong with kids today! After the 2nd blunt (if that) you don't get higher and higher having more and more fun. You're just wasting weed! I smoke alot of weed myself, but 1 blunt to the head and I'm good for a couple hours. Girl from American Idol is just rediculous--only been doing drugs what 8 months? Its such a dier emergency that she get help NOW. HAHA. What a load of shit!

Jeff however made me almost cry. I understood how he felt because I've been there before and HE REALLY DOES NEED TO BE THERE and NEEDS PROPER TREATMENT ASAP. Jeff is near death and if he can't complete the program and stay with it afterward, then I have no doubt he will be dead within a month. All the substances he is mixing is so unbelievably dangerous that its hard to fathom how he's even still breathing. Benzos, a library of powerful opiates, alcohol, cocaine...quite frankly its a miracle he's alive right now. I feel really bad for him being the only one there that needs help and is in agony while the others are just there for a spot on TV cause they can't get any other work and happen to have used drugs in their lives. Ya'll saw them partying in the damn pool. Seriously I almost cried about Jeff, man. It makes me look at the way I used to live my life thru my addictions over all those years and reinforced why I will never go back to that life-style. Granted mine was a bit different than Jeff's because I was an IV heroin addict instead of pain pills...but a junkie is a junkie either way so I feel him...I feel what he is going thru.

But those other pussies need to go the fuck home

And the Baldwin guy...he said he's been straight for over a year! What the fuck is he doing there. Granted his problems with cocaine were bad IN THE PAST. But he certainly doesn't need inpatient treatment right now.

No, the people who need to be there...I'd like to see Britney Spears in there. Yes I couldn't give a fuck less about her career and have no interest in her at all. But she DOES need the help. She is still a human being and deserves the same amount of respect as the rest of us. Put yourself in Britney's shoes and you'd be crazy too. I feel really bad for her, ya know. We'd all be drugged up and tweeked out and doing all kinds of fucked up shit if we were never left alone and couldn't leave the house without pictures constantly being snapped and screaming and press all over us...people always telling you to be a certain way and do certain things. Shit I'd be fucking nuts too...I probably would've killed somebody by now if I was her. Lohan's just a party girl that has too much fun. But Brit really does need the help. Obviously she'll never go on a show like that...she's too far gone to even realize she needs help. Its really sad what the media does to people just to turn a buck.

Anyway enough of my rant.

But yes Dr. Drew is false in alot of his statements about various drugs. But I think he'll do a good job in attempting to help Jeff. He knows enough about addiction to where he can provide proper care. However I think anybody that is going to be a drug counciler or something of that nature, they need to have personal experience and have a number of years dealing with these type of people. When I was in rehab, none of the Docs had any clue what it felt like. They look at it from a brain-chemistry point of view...they have a wide knowledge of anatomy and bodily chemistry but have no idea about the soul.

ANd another thing, it angers me so much to see these facilities looking like day-spas for the rich and famous. The place I went to had a men's ward and a women's ward. Our days spent in group meetings ALL DAY, the food was akin to the shit they serve at county jail, we could only smoke cigarettes when the HDIC (head doc in charge) gave us permission and we went to smoke as a group. We were allowed an hour each day for recreation...in the common rooms (men and women always separate). 1 visit each week. It was like county jail all over again but we could leave (couldn't come back) if we wanted to and there weren't bars on the windows and doors to each bunk weren't locked most of the time. THATS REHAB. This hollywood bullshit makes me sick especially when they let patients in and out as they please because they got a WHOLE BUNCH of money and no body tells them 'no' ever. Thats not rehab, thats vacation. A place to go when you're straight girlfriend/boyfriend gave you the boot because you got caught doing a few lines of coke off the bathroom sink. Where was our pool and hot tub and coed dorms and exquisite quisine? Fuck them.

Good luck to Jeff though..........

Okay I'm done