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By Martha T. Moore, USA TODAY
Thu Mar 23, 7:09 AM ET



Drug-free school zones, which stiffen penalties for drug crimes committed within their boundaries, don't discourage drug dealing around the buildings and are unfair to minorities, a report released today says.

The study by the Drug Policy Alliance and the Justice Policy Institute, two non-profit groups that advocate reducing penalties for non-violent drug crimes, echoes concerns already raised by lawmakers and even prosecutors who are pushing to revise the laws.

Drug-free zones, which have been around since the 1980s, commonly extend 1,000 feet in all directions from a school, but some set the distance as far as 3 miles. They have been expanded over the years to cover such places as public housing, parks, playgrounds and, in Utah, shopping malls and churches.

In some urban areas, drug-free zones are so numerous that they blanket almost entire cities. As a result, no one knows where the zones begin and end and therefore they have little deterrent effect, the report says. Minorities also are more likely to bear the brunt of tougher sentencing rules that apply to the zones, it says.

At least three state legislatures are considering bills to reduce the size of the zones. Bills would shrink the zones to 200 feet from 1,500 feet in Connecticut and from 1,000 feet in New Jersey and Washington. A similar attempt died in the South Dakota Legislature last year.

In Utah, the parole board recommended last fall that drug-free zones be replaced with stiffer penalties for drug offenses committed in the presence of children.

Drug arrests don't decline in the zones, according to the report's figures from Connecticut and New Jersey.

In New Jersey, where a drug-free zone law was passed in 1987, arrests near schools rose from 8,000 in 1993 to 14,000 in 2002, according to the state Commission to Review Criminal Sentencing.

Shrinking protected zones sends the wrong message, says Alfonso Lenhardt, president of the National Crime Prevention Council.

"It'll look like it's a pullback, a reduction of our sincere efforts to reduce drugs in and around our schools," Lenhardt says. "Anything that sends a signal that we're backing away from the commitment to provide a drug-free zone around our schools is not the way to go."

"Nobody feels sorry for drug dealers" who are penalized for being in a zone they didn't know existed, says Ben Barlyn, a deputy attorney general in New Jersey and executive director of the state sentencing commission, which recommended that drug-free zones be made smaller. "The question is, is it fair and does it work?"

Critics say the tougher penalties in drug-free zones mean that drug dealers in cities, who are more likely to be minorities, are punished more harshly than their suburban and rural counterparts.

"We end up creating two different criminal justice systems," says Gabriel Sayegh of the Drug Policy Alliance, which supports legislation to make drug-free zones smaller and more identifiable. "What we're talking about is focusing the laws to make them effective."

Drug-free zones are fewer and farther apart in the suburbs. In suburban Connecticut, "the houses are more than 1,500 feet away from each other, let alone a school," says Connecticut state Rep. Mike Lawler, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, which will hold hearings Friday on the bill to shrink the zones. In a city, "You might as well stand next to the school (to sell drugs), because there's no where else you can stand" and not be in a drug-free zone.

"You might just as well say blacks get one penalty and whites get another penalty," Lawler says.

Rolling back penalties on drug dealing is a tough sell, especially when schools are involved, even though Barlyn says a "statistically insignificant" number of arrests in drug zones involve selling drugs to children.

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Drug-free school zones, which stiffen penalties for drug crimes committed within their boundaries, don't discourage drug dealing around the buildings and are unfair to minorities, a report released today says.

Yes, because there are laws mandating that minorites live in urban neighborhoods and near schools.

Minorities also are more likely to bear the brunt of tougher sentencing rules that apply to the zones, it says

But there is no coercion involved. There is no intentional targetting.

Moreso, people generally don't get coerced into selling drugs. It is a choice. If you make the choice to sell drugs you are already choosing to break the law knowing full well there are severe consequences. And if you make the choice to sell drugs in a part of an area within 1,000 feet of a school zone, well, you can't just cry about it when you get caught because you're a fucking minority like anyone gives a rats ass. You're breaking the law regardless of whether you agree with the law or not. If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime.

Hey, I've got an idea... let's prosecute drug offenders based on statistics! We'll let 3 out of 4 minority drug offenders go to level things out and completely disregard the fact that certain laws are in place to deter and punish crime, not to mandate racial equality.

Critics say the tougher penalties in drug-free zones mean that drug dealers in cities, who are more likely to be minorities, are punished more harshly than their suburban and rural counterparts.

You know, minorities aren't the only people in urban areas.

Perhaps it's urbanites who get punished more harshly than suburbanites and ruralites and we can forget about the god damned race card bullshit and get rational for a minute.

But we can't do that, because institutionalized racism is inherent to liberalism.
 
The race thing threw me off in that article too.... Yeah, minorities *do* get fucked more often by virtue of the fact that more minorities live in urban areas, but, well, that's kinda just too bad. Kinda like how kids get the shit ticketed out of them for doing next to nothing in the suburbs and urban kids can get away with all kinds of bullshit. I can't believe some of the shit my cousins have pulled living closer to the city. My little brother has been busted for stupid shit umpteen times.

As for drug-free zones, I think it's pretty clear that they're NOT a deterrent. Duh...

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kittyinthedark said:
Yeah, minorities *do* get fucked more often by virtue of the fact that more minorities live in urban areas, but, well, that's kinda just too bad.

As for drug-free zones, I think it's pretty clear that they're NOT a deterrent. Duh...

It's not saying that minorities are getting fucked with more often because they live in cities. It is saying that in cities, buildings are really close together and a lot of minorities in cities are automatically in 'drug free zones' even if they are on their own street.
 
It seems like every time the topic of unfair and harsh penalties related to non-violent drug offenses comes up the main argument as to why they're bad is because it is hurting minorities. Maybe there are more minorities being busted for drug crimes, but I don't understand what the hell race has to do with the main issue. If we are working so hard towards equality then why does the issue of race still come up all the time?
 
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If we are working so hard towards equality then why does the issue of race still come up all the time?

Because ultra-liberals love to use the race card to advance their agenda. They have the misguided notion that institutionalized racism is the way to end racism.

As long as policy acknowledges race, people are going to acknowledge races, and thus, differences between races.

Everyone is afforded equal rights under the law. And as long as it's illegal to discriminate people on the basis of race when it comes to jobs, education, health care, et cetera, and so long as harrassment on the basis of race is illegal, that is simply all that can be done to eliminate racism as much as possible. Making exceptions or giving benefits to minorities on the basis of race, however, isn't going to do anything except give racists more ammunition for their beliefs. And while I understand the purpose of something like Affirmative Action or forcing colleges to hold spots for minorities, it cheats potentially more qualified employees or students. Moreso, if there is a problem with minorities not receiving enough of an education to be statistically equal compared to the majority in their ability to get into college or get a job, then we should be spending more money on failing school systems. The point of that would be to ensure the merit of all people is equal regardless of their race.

Also, by focusing on racial statistics, there are white people who get left behind. If we disregarded race and only looked at socio-economic statistics, we'd see that white people living, most especially, in trailer parks and rural areas, are often recieving a substandard education, have a statistically high drop out rate, have less people going to college, and are less likely to get good jobs.

We could do more to fix problems if we focused on issues like socio-economic status that affect people equally regardless of race. We should be helping ALL people who aren't getting an appropriate education or getting jobs that earn them enough to support a family. It's not just the minorities, and the percentage of minorities that have been provided with a good education and upbringing don't need extra advantages to be equal to the majority.
 
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