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US Supreme Court vs shamanic use of DMT (Bush: war on tea)

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Bush: War on tea [drugs]

Supreme Court to address Hallucinogenic Tea case - [War on Drugs]


The Supreme Court agreed yesterday to consider whether a church in New Mexico should be allowed to continue using hallucinogenic tea in its religious services. The tea, which contains a drug banned under the federal Controlled Substances Act, is also protected under freedom-of-religion laws. The Bush administration contends the tea is illegal and potentially dangerous.

A lower-court ruling that allowed the Brazil-based church — O Centro Espírita Beneficiente União do Vegetal — to import and use the hoasca tea, while the case was appealed, will be reviewed. Arguments will take place in the court's next term beginning in October.

The church, which has about 140 members in the US and 8,000 worldwide, says the herbal brew is a central sacrament in its religious practice, which is a blend of Christian beliefs and traditions rooted in the Amazon basin.

The Denver-based Circuit Court of Appeals, voting 8-5 that the church had shown a "substantial likelihood of success" in winning religious exemption, rejected the government's request to temporarily ban use of the drug at the church. Lawyers for the church countered that tea use by law-abiding citizens practicing their religious beliefs does not constitute drug abuse or put worshippers' health in danger.

The government argues it has a "compelling interest" in preventing an illegal market for the drug. They also cited the 1971 U.N. Convention on Psychotropic Substances which bars importation of the drug in the tea — dimethyltryptamine — except for research. Allowing the tea use "directly impairs the effectiveness of international narcotics law-enforcement efforts, frustrates intergovernmental cooperation, and weakens the government's ability to insist that other countries adhere to their treaty obligations," the government states. So it appears that the government has finally found a use for the U.N. after all - hooray!

In 1990, the Supreme Court ruled that states have a right to criminalize the use of peyote, rejecting a challenge by Native Americans seeking a religious exemption under the First Amendment's free exercise clause. I'm rooting for the underdogs' religious rights.

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If anyone has watched that "john saffaran Vs God" on SBS im pretty sure he tryed out this religion...

typical Bush the chipmonk ruining everyones fun... clenching his fist on more freedom... Fukkin Nazi !

Even if this religion has this practice banned in the legal contex, im sure it will still be practiced.

Theres a kind of sence of Fun Doing illegal activitys and drug taking is one of them.. knowing that what you doing is half the risk...

apart from us drug educated Blighterz all the risk is the illegal degree to it !
 
It is referring to DMT, but more specifically the brew ayahuasca.

edit: I think it is anyway as it talks about Brazil and the amazon which is where ayahuasca originates.
 
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dialated665: I beleive John Safran consumed Mescaline in the form of a Peyote tea.

apart from us drug educated Blighterz all the risk is the illegal degree to it !

It's pretty naive to think that just because you visit a web site such as bluelight.ru all of the risks associated with drug use asside from the legal implications go flying out the window. There will always be risks associated with drug use, don't kid yourself.
 
yay more rights being taken away. might as well re-write the american constitution to say : "you have no rights. go to jail. do not collect 200$"
 
marklar_the_23rd said:
yay more rights being taken away. might as well re-write the american constitution to say : "you have no rights. go to jail. do not collect 200$"

Ha, sounds perfectly correct to me. Its one of those situations where you can do whatever you want as long as you dont do what we dont want you to do. My personal favourite is the summit on globalisation (this is purely from memory so may not be 100% correct) which was held a few years back and attracted massive protests. The next one has been scheduled to meet in Qatar, where it just so happens to be illegal to protest. Funny hey.

fuck in heaven
 
Amendment I

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof etc etc. "

" The Bush administration contends the tea is illegal and potentially dangerous."

its funny how amendment 2 is the reason why americans are allowed guns that kill on average 20,000 - 30,000 people annually, but that DMT drink is potentially dangerous and should be stopped, even if it means rewriting the constiution.
 
Stats like "20,000 - 30,000 people annually" should probably be accompanied with a reference to solidify the argument, it really does help hammer your point home if you can back it up. E.g.:
  • In 1998, 30,708 people in the United States died from firearm-related deaths - 12,102 (39%) of those were murdered; 17,424 (57%) were suicides; 866 (3%) were accidents; and in 316 (1%) the intent was unknown. [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. National Center for Health Statistics. Unpublished Data from the National Vital Statistics System, 2000. Also available from CDC Wonder at: http//wonder.cdc.gov]
  • For every firearm fatality in the United States, there are two non-fatal firearm injuries. [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "Nonfatal and fatal firearm-related injuries - United States, 1993-1997", Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report 48, pp.: 1029-1034, 1999] (see also MMWR 50, pp.: 1-32, 2001)
BigTrancer :)
 
Psychedelics: A new phase

An excellent outlook for psychedelics! Keep the use of these compounds responsible and they may be around for good! :)

Hallucinogen myths put to rest


Article By:
• Genevieve Diesing
[email protected]

Recently, the U.S. Supreme Court considered whether a church in New Mexico should be able to continue using hallucinogenic tea for religious purposes. The Bush administration has made clear the use of hallucinogens for any reason is illegal and harmful, but depending on how selectively the court applies freedom of religion laws, this regard could change.

It’s not just the Bush administration that views psychedelics as harmful; since we were little we’ve been bombarded with myths and propaganda about the evils of their use, from the preaching of the nationwide D.A.R.E. program to widely circulated wives’ tales. But with rapid scientific discovery, a new perspective about psychedelics is emerging. Extensive medical research has provided evidence that psychedelic drug use can be beneficial to a person’s well being, and ! now the Food and Drug Administration has begun allowing research with psychedelics for psychotherapy to heal trauma.

NIU’s Thomas Roberts, Ph.D., longtime professor of the course "Psychedelic Mindview" (EPS 492) said he believes this might be just the beginning.

"Now, the D.A.R.E. view is being laid to rest," Roberts said. "Interest in psychedelics is coming back in a more medical, therapeutic sense."

With proper, educated use, within a controlled setting (which usually involves determining beforehand if the person in question has any predisposition toward psychedelics) psychedelics can have lifelong positive effects, Roberts said. Although people should not try to experiment with drugs bought "off the street" because their purity and potency is always questionable, many people who have used psychedelics in a proper manner have had experiences described as "life-altering" and "holy." And for victims of trauma or people who would benefit from further exp! loration into their subconscious, psychedelics can serve as extremely helpful agents.

"What these drugs do is illuminate and magnify areas of our brain that are not normally accessible," Roberts said. This is because psychedelics can tune into the area of our brain that psychologists call the transpersonal area, which can cause people to - as Roberts says - "drop one’s identity and feel related with something bigger than themselves." Obviously, this feeling can have strong correlations with what some people consider religious or spiritual experiences, and for others, it can cause them to explore their reality differently and to challenge their sensory perceptions. This has proved to enrich people’s lives on the whole well after the initial experience and deepen people’s appreciation and understanding of nature, spirituality and many different aspects of the humanities, such as literature or the arts. These experiences are also extremely valuable for people who benefit from their medical service.

One stigma that has stuck like glu! e to the use of psychedelics is that they are physically harmful. Roberts refutes this, saying it is merely one of the myths that surrounds the issue. "There is no physical damage [caused by psychedelics] that I know of," he said. "The most realistic danger is that someone might use psychedelics that shouldn’t be and have traumatizing psychological results." Roberts advised that people who are given psychedelics for medical use should be screened beforehand to be sure using them would be appropriate.

Whether or not the Supreme Court decides hallucinogens should be accessible for religious services, the attitude toward psychedelics on the whole is in the process of major transformation. If people wish to further their knowledge about this subject, they can sign up for Roberts’ course next semester. And for those who are still trying to decide how they feel about it, keep this quotation (Richard Rudgley, "Essential Substances in Society," from the EPS 492 course syllab! us) in mind: "Humans have an innate need to experience altered states of consciousness. To ignore or repress our own natures in this way is to neglect our own capacities."

Columns reflect the opinion of the author and not necessarily that of the Northern Star staff.
 
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