Longterm Effects of Injecting Speed

I have just joined/found this site and would like to know of others experiances with the consequences of heavy amphetimine injecting. I have been dry for nearly 4 yrs but was using/injecting copious amounts of clean meth for nearly 4yrs. Shots ranged from a average of half a gram up to half a 8-ball in peak peroids. I suffer from massive paranoia, depression, frequent bad dreams, flashbacks, and general fear of being around it. I have attempted to use it a few times since only to be plunged instantly into the worst aspects of the drug. How long will this last?

i don't have any personl experience in this but a mate of mine used in around about the same quantaties but for only 2 yrs i believe. Gave it all up for a girl overnight....... Newayz - he went and saw a doctor about it and found that he now has problems with his heart and blood pressure that need to be watched. He never mentioned to me any mental effects after stopping - but that's not to say he didn't have any.

As far as I'm aware the nerotoxic effect of ampheamines on Dopamine receptors is fairly permanent. But i don't have the knowledge to say conclusively what effect this would have on you. I imagine damaged dopamine receptors would make concentration difficult.

My advice too you would be to see a doctor to see if you have any physical problems caused by excessive use of amphetamines. In terms of the mental issues you mention - I can't really help.

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I have seen a few GPs but they haven't really been any great help...they referred me onto anti-depressents and I am currently weaning myself off Efexor. The ADs really seemed to help at first but I got over that fairly quickly. What sort of specialist would I need to see?

Don't discount your psychological association from the drug, and the mental conditioning that has taken place. Although the methamphetamine neurotoxicity may have caused neurological changes/damage it may also be psychological damage/mental conditioning that is affecting you when you are back on the gear. Any doctor you see will tell you never to use it again and that is the smart option, but as far as suggesting medication I doubt many people here are qualified to do so.

Searching Google Scholar for research publications using a term like: "chronic intravenous methamphetamine" will yield many results and is the best place to start for sound information. Bluelight postings are often based on anecdotal experience.

Yeah I'm not really seeking any pharmacutical suggestions here, but maybe there is a specialist doctor that has some knowledge in this area? The pyscological stains are massive. I was a 'bigger is better' person with injecting drugs and have tried most things through a rig - cordial, alcohal, vegemite, acid, E's, slow, fast, pepper, and most pharmies. The damage came from when I moved into the 'dumptruck' league i.e.- 1 gram or more in a shot. It seems to have altered my natural settings because I used to be a confident, proud, interested young person but now am silently the opposite. I want to turn this around and am using willpower but can't find much else to assist.

Maybe you could go talk to someone at your local drug user organisation and they could refer you on to the right people? What's your nearest capital city?

I live in Brisbane.

I can't help you with any answers. But I'd recommend you see a psychaitrist because they are the ones who would really know whats going on in your head.
Also, I live in Brisbane and I know that their is a place in the Valley called Quivaa which is a support centre for drug users. I believe they offer free one on one couselling. I went to a few of the group meetings they offer and they were really cool. I'm sure they'd be able to help you out somehow.

I have and still do to a degree have problems with IV meth amphetamine. I'm currently under the influence. I began the first time as an 18 year old after getting clean from heroin the first time. I Iv'd up to 10 time a day, rarely slept etc. That instance ended in a deverstating psychosis where I was sure that I was going insane due to hearing voices. The vicious cycle began as I got back on heroin as it was the only thing that soothed my mind. A few years later until the present day I resumed the addiction, probably more intense usage then before. I no londer use every day Im down to average of three days a week. This time around its different due to what I believe is the use of downers for coming down, particularly benzos and oxycontin.

i have had times where I started to stutter a lot, which is unusual for me. It was generally from thinking too quickly and my mouth not being able to keep up I think, but as for it's duration - it only lasted a day or so. I don't understand what would cause the stutters after you've come down but maybe it's a subconcious thing?

As far as stopping all-together the only thing I found usefull was distancing myself physically from a source. This sounds easier than it is but really effective. Plus I found that commiting myself to something that preoccupied my time helped to mentally assist me with thinking I was living differently. It is an ugly cycle of familiarity that cause us to want it so often, nothing is as fun when you are normal. Or so I used to think.

^^^^The only method I found for leaving meth successfully was to substitute another substance for it.

i did a lot, but not as much for as long as you did. i've seen friends who've done a lot for a long time... still not as much as you.

are they ok now? i dunno, most of us still take drugs in some form or another but not shooting up stuff anymore. most of us were more addicted to the needle and the high, as opposed to the particular drug

none of us seem to have the kind of problems you are describing. sounds like you really did your head in. do you still feel like the same person you were when you were doing it? i just couldnt imagine being like that again, i was such a different person, such a different time...

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Plus I found that commiting myself to something that preoccupied my time helped to mentally assist me with thinking I was living differently.

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Yeah...Having a JOB you enjoy and cool co-workers is THE best thing...even if the moneys crap. Keep ya mind off the wizz better that way.