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Sniffer Dogs - What they actually find! (Sydney Morning Herlard)

shal

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Well - The dogs seem to be in the Media right now!

Heres some interesting facts... Seems dogs arn't as GOOD as expected!

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Click here to read news article

Nice to see where our hard earnt tax paying dollars is spent! On unreliable, humilating drug dogs which don't find shit!

shals :D
 
Sniffed out and searched: one man's humiliation
By Stephen Gibbs
July 2, 2004


A man playing a poker machine on licensed premises in an inner Sydney suburb was interrupted by three police following the lead of a sniffer dog.

In a quiet side street outside, the man - whose English was quite poor - gave his name, date of birth and other details to the officers, two male and one female.

The man's pockets were turned out by one of the officers, who also shone a torch down the back of his jeans. Asked if he had anything in his underpants, the poker machine player appeared not to understand.

As two pedestrians went past, the man complied with a request to take off his shoes and socks. "Have you taken drugs tonight?" an officer asked him. "No never. Why take drugs?" he replied.

The officers thanked the man and left.

The November 2002 search is reported in a discussion paper by the NSW Ombudsman which supports concerns sniffer dogs are more likely to cause humiliation than uncover drug dealers, or even users.

In the first year after police were given increased powers to search for drugs, sniffer dogs located three people carrying heroin and 940 with marijuana.

Almost twice as many "drug dog indications" were made at Hornsby as at Kings Cross.

Drugs were found in only 27 per cent of searches following a drug dog indication, although some kind of admission - such as having been somewhere cannabis was smoked - was made during a further 44 per cent of searches.

In half of cannabis finds, the amount weighed less than 1.6 grams, and heroin was found on fewer occasions than its legal substitute, methadone.

The data comes from the Police Dog Unit's records.

Between February 22, 2002, when the Police Powers (Drug Detection Dogs) Act began, and February 21 last year, police sniffer dogs indicated the presence of an illegal substance on 4078 occasions.

The monthly number of searches spiked from May, when a regulation allowing sniffer dogs on rail and bus routes came into force.

Most of the indications were at railway stations and on trains, where there were 2505 detections, followed by licensed premises (869), roads and streets (498), and dance parties (79).

The average age of those searched was 28, and the median age 26. Police took no action following 74.3 per cent of searches.

The next most likely outcome was a cannabis caution, which was issued in 55 per cent of cases where any "formal action" was taken. Legal proceedings were started in 10 per cent of cases.


In half of cannabis finds, the amount weighed less than 1.6 grams

Looks like they're really catching the big dealers out ;)

Way to go!
 
I would like to see where each area the amount of each drug was found as, from the graphic we see aprox 70 ecstasy & 70 amphetamine were found but i could probly gaurantee that at least 80% were found on specific police precence at certain dance parties and not on the street.
What area is in controll of the homebush area?
 
It's also likely that in almost every case where 'other' drugs were found, the telltale drug that led the dog to the person was cannabis. IMHO. The dog smells weed, so the police can then search the person and find whatever they have.

BigTrancer :)
 
^^ I think the fact that they found LSD on 2 people is a testimant(sp?) to that. I think dogs would have hard trouble sniffing a tab of acid in someones pocket, surely they would have smelt weed and then they found the acid because of that.
 
Wow, those are really pathetic figures, IMHO. They've basically spent shitloads of money on doing a shithouse job of preventing relatively inconsequential and harmless activities. Chalk up more wasted money for the NSW constabulary.
 
i went to a rave in homebush where the dogs were inside the gates... my friend who had nothing on her, was asked to step into a room. while myself and 3 friends walked passed with 5-6 pill each on us. those dogs are retards!
 
^^might of been how she reacted when she saw the dogs.

The handlers do look at you to see how you react when they around.
 
Sniffer dogs are a political tool for the present day government to look tough on drugs. Its a political football, I'd ask would australia cop it up the arse and take these sniffer dogs if they were bomb/exsplosive detection dogs?


IMHO its a gutless act by governments who are turning politics into a ACA & Today Tonight highlight reel. No vision what so ever.
 
They are saying that in only 25% of those searched that they actually found anything............Would it be fair to suggest that you or I could select 100 people out of say 500 randoms and have a 25% success rate of something being found???

I reckon the chances are good, and if Im right then are the dogs actually doing anything but acting as a prop for the cops to simply search anyone they want???
 
Let that be a lesson to all pot heads taking weed into public space......wrap it in LSD
 
Originally posted by endlesseulogy
i thought LSD didnt have a smell?

It doesn't say it was sniffed then successfully located. No doubt they had other drugs on them which triggered the dogs or they were smelling traces of other drugs on them from before.
 
Hide your drugs in a good enough spot and you can carry a decent stash and claim you smoked bud before hand and get away easily.... might not work if you are carrying 200 pills but you catch my drift.
 
There is heaps of dealing going on in and around Hornsby... I happen to know that they busted two rather medium-large dealers for the sydney rave scene there, and they've been hunting around ever since. That's not necessarily related, though.

Think about it -- Hornsby is a focal point for the upper north shore region... it has the major shopping centres for that area, and is easily accessed up the pacific highway from Chatswood, from the Hills district via (road whose name I can't think of at the moment) and from the central coast region down the pacific highway. It's no surprise that people deal drugs in conveniently accessed areas.
 
If ur going to a rave and u have afriend that dont take illicits then rub pot over them, that way they will get searched... then again u may be searched(guilty by association)


Some cops are not that cluey anyway, i know of some that found meth but thought it was rock salt and never busted the guy, mind u it wasnt in a bag at the time.

Also my friend once dropped a bud in a dark alley and the cops came and he got them to shine the torch around, we found it after they left =D
 
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