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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Misc Zoplicone

Callegirl29 said:
Is there anything I can take to potentiate Zoplicone? What about Tylenol #3 potentiators?
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Zimmers aren't the best to abuse for a high.

I took one 7.5mg zimmer a week ago and woke up the following day to an unhappy family.

Supposedly I ate the entire strip of 14 zimmers and proceeded to fall asleep in random areas around my home and was told that I became docile and suggestive but thankfully my fam are good peeps and didn't take advantage of that.

Anyway zopiclone also known as zimmers are GABAergics of the Z-Drug variety.

This means they are extremely similar to benzos.

Problem is in comparison to a typical benzo like valium, zopiclone is much more prone to inducing acute disinhibition and amnesia at relatively low doses.

This means the user will engage in stupid behaviours that they wouldn't normally do and coz of amnesia will never have any recollection of doing these foolish things.

I'd advise you to take one or two zimmers(7.5mg pills) every 4 hours at most otherwise you'll become a full on syndrome.

I like to take opioids like morphine or oxy with my zimmers.

They potentiate each other nicely and act synergistically together.

Be safe ;)
 
Thanks so much! I know a few times I had the same thing happen…my bf at the time said I ate an entire pizza then passed out while we were…ya know…lol…and I don’t remember one minute of anything. It’s a trippy feeling to say the least. And I didn’t even get to “enjoy” the trip if you will because of the amnesia! Anyhow while you’re here and obv know what you’re talking about..In regards to how to POTENTIATE Tylenol #3- it’s all I’ve got (sadly all my doc will give me) so wondered what if anything might POTENTIATE it to make it somewhat enjoyable….I have Clonidine as well and Clonazepam…Hydroxizine ….I’ve been told conflicting things about the Clonidine & Atarax potentiating the T#3’s….tried it and didn’t feel much…mostly kinda tired and that’s what I DONT want- I want a buzz not sleepy! Anyhow if you have anything to offer beside the old gf juice deal (I’ve tried it and nothing whatsoever…) …I would appreciate it! Trying to make the best of what I’ve got I suppose -albeit not much. ☺️cheers & thx again
 
Callegirl29 said:
Thanks so much! I know a few times I had the same thing happen…my bf at the time said I ate an entire pizza then passed out while we were…ya know…lol…and I don’t remember one minute of anything. It’s a trippy feeling to say the least. And I didn’t even get to “enjoy” the trip if you will because of the amnesia! Anyhow while you’re here and obv know what you’re talking about..In regards to how to POTENTIATE Tylenol #3- it’s all I’ve got (sadly all my doc will give me) so wondered what if anything might POTENTIATE it to make it somewhat enjoyable….I have Clonidine as well and Clonazepam…Hydroxizine ….I’ve been told conflicting things about the Clonidine & Atarax potentiating the T#3’s….tried it and didn’t feel much…mostly kinda tired and that’s what I DONT want- I want a buzz not sleepy! Anyhow if you have anything to offer beside the old gf juice deal (I’ve tried it and nothing whatsoever…) …I would appreciate it! Trying to make the best of what I’ve got I suppose -albeit not much. ☺️cheers & thx again
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T3's? Pure shit unless one is an opioid newbie with zero tolerance.

Don't get me wrong one single t3 used to hit me nicely back in the day.

Now however with prolonged abuse 1,000mg of oxycodone would just reduce my withdrawals and not get me high.

Opioid potentiation is mostly done with grapefruit juice or the bees knees being PCM type ACH dissociatives such as ketamine, mxe, dck, etc

My all time favourite thing to do is take my typical dose of morphine, oxy, etc or whatever opioid I can get and then snorting a 50mg line of ketamine or even 2f-dck.

Firstly it potentiates the opioids so one gets twice as high off the usual dose, induces fits of neverending laughter, etc etc

Supposedly dissos like ket reverse tolerance to opioids.

Also my favourite effect is ketamine respiratory stimulant effects.

You know how an opioid overdose can induce acute respiratory depression meaning one stops breathing well ketamine prevents that effect so it's impossible to overdose by stopping breathing unless an idiot uses a monstrous dose of fent or nitazenes.

Look in to the process called cold water extraction.

One can separate the codeine from the other ingredients like paracetamol/acetaminophen and dump it thus allowing one to take a higher dose of codeine without risking paracetamol overdose.

Benzos like valium is nice with opioids but be warned it'll reduce the rush and euphoria but will make the user super chill.

Personally I find t3s or codeine pairs perfectly with unlimited spliffs being smoked.

Many options.

I must do my service here that's typical of an opioid afficionado like myself and warn you that opioids are EXTREMELY dangerous.

Thing is if used responsibly they have almost zero side effects and one can reduce their pain and increase their happiness very easily everyday with zero problems whatsoever until the guaranteed reality occurs which is running out of opioids.

Then withdrawals kick in.

I've had withdrawals from every drug like alcohol, zanax, valium, morphine, etc, etc

They were all horrible.

However the more times one goes through withdrawals the more intense and unbearable they become due to what's called "the kindling effect".

It wasn't my choice to begin opioids coz a doctor injected me in the emergency room but I went from projectile vomiting in pain to feeling the best I ever felt.

That was 20 years ago.

As of today I'm still addicted.

If your wise you'll stay away
 
Pardon my ignorance but with the CWE would the codeine not make me feel more sleepy than happy…? I know T#3’s are the weakest of anything but it’s all I’ve got and all I’m going to get, so as I said just trying to make the best of it. I’ve heard about CWE and I’ve never had pure codeine it’s always been in combo w/acetaminophen so I have no idea what it would make me feel like. If it’s drowsy then not for me…I’m not a pot smoker for the same reason- it makes me feel too “chill”…if that makes sense. I don’t want to feel relaxed and couch potato-ish…I want the BUZZ! 🐝
 
According to the experts taking more than 4,000mg of paracetamol in a 24 hour period causes liver problems. The more one takes the worse the problems. Also paracetamol overdose takes a day or two to kick in and it's meant to be horrendous. The paracetamol has almost zero psychoactive effects. It modulates cannabinoid receptors at best but not noticeably so. I'd never take it if I had the choice. I always CWE my pills. It's very easy. Just dissolve pills in a glass of water then freeze for 30 mins and then extract the water and leave the powder in the glass and pour through an old cotton t-shirt to filter it more. Then drink the water which should contain almost pure codeine and trace amounts of paracetamol thus rendering the use safe and free of hazards associated with paracetamol toxicity. If you want a buzz then dose low. Most opioids are stimulating in low doses and the opposite in high doses which causes a nod. Ya follow me bro?
 
Gotcha. So how many T#3’s to dissolve for a trial…again pardon my ignorance but do you still get the 30mg of codeine from each T#3 then? Minus the caffeine (and acetaminophen of course)—-I usually take 3 x T#3’s so would dissolving 3 tabs give me 90mg codeine?
 
How much paracetamol in each pill?

Personally if I'm taking a low dose then I don't CWE.

When one does a cold water extraction a small bit of codeine gets lost each time but not much. For example washing 90mg one will end up with 80mg.

Read the following link for good info and recommended doses.

m.psychonautwiki.org

Codeine

Codeine (also known as 3-Methylmorphine) is a naturally-occurring opioid substance of the morphinan class found in extracts of the poppy, particularly Papaver bracteatum.[3] Members of this group produce effects such as sedation, cough suppression, and euphoria when administered.
m.psychonautwiki.org m.psychonautwiki.org
 
Then it's safe to take 6 at a time and another 6, 12 hours later. No more than 13/14 pills in a 24 hour period. Honestly less is more with opioids bro.

If 3 pills gets you high then taking a 4th is gucci but anymore is a potential waste or may not be enjoyable or perhaps even induces nausea.

If I were you I'd take 4 pills equalling 120mg and smoke a few joints and chill out ;)
 
Personally, I'd recommend doing a CWE and avoid unnecessary paracetamol/acetaminophen.
 
K….just to be clear you’re talking about just taking the T#3 pills without doing the CWE, is that correct?
 
Sry Halif just saw your post I was just replying to 9-bar. I agree I’m getting concerned about my acetaminophen levels as been doing this for many years answer really quite pointless as obv my tolerance is insane …barely feel a thing except constipated lol…having said that…when I run out…withdrawl is a bitch
 
Callegirl29 said:
Sry Halif just saw your post I was just replying to 9-bar. I agree I’m getting concerned about my acetaminophen levels as been doing this for many years answer really quite pointless as obv my tolerance is insane …barely feel a thing except constipated lol…having said that…when I run out…withdrawl is a bitch
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Same bro. I began taking two 15mg pills that got me lit as fuck for an entire day. Then I needed 4 pills. Then 6. Within weeks I was washing 96 pills every 4-6 hours. Felt nothing. Broke my teeth and began tramadol. 2 pills worked at first but now I take 16 pills just to not feel terrible(max safe amount coz seizures) and also drink 60mg of morphine every 4 hours.

Without that amount I can't work or do anything that requires me to be functional. I keep trying to quit but by day 3 I cave.

However I told my supplier to cut me off for a month to reset my tolerance so ima prob feel really shitty for the next few days but I think ima snort lines of speed quite frequently to minimise the horror so hopefully it works.

If your not as far down the road as me then please reconsider opioid use. Quitting is like trying to find your way out of fort kwith with a blindfold. Next to impossible. 1,000mg of oxy puts a smile on my face but I wouldn't call it a high so to speak. Fuck tolerance.

Honestly man I had unlimited access to free oxycodone and it was still a shit experience. Just totally unsustainable. I knew it wouldn't end well but really it went bad real induceand is much worse than I had anticipated. Docs won't give me bupe or anything. If you've tips for this scenario plz share
 
You know what it’s so fucking depressing I liken it to a cat chasing it’s tail…a never ending cycle of trying to get the same high you once did….the worst part for me is KNOWING exactly what Im doing is essentially pointless yet…I keep doing it! Then I feel so weak and pathetic because i can’t make a day without some sort of pill…nothing get me high anymore all it does it prevent withdrawl and numbs me. But I don’t want to feel numb I want to feel high! Yet I also don’t want the hell of withdrawl so…I keep on doing the same thing day after day. I know this will sound like a cheesy fucking greeting card but I also know it’s true—my endless search for the “high” which really means feeling “happy” (At this point I would even settle for feeling “content”) …that feeling has to come from within …from within the depths of your soul- the real you. Again sounds corny as hell but it is true- I’ve done it in other areas of my life too -ie: looking for a bf/mate to make me “feel” happy….looking for external, material things to make me happy. And they do, sometimes , make me happy….for awhile …then it dissipates and I’m starting my search again. Idk what the answer is. I know I used to feel genuine happiness before I ever started doing drugs/pills. Hurt my back 20 years ago and it’s basically all been downhill ever since..got divorced, lost my son, lost my job, living on disability …In pain so doc started me on pills…like yourself a few T#3’s and I felt amazing! Then needed 4,10, etc….moved up to percs then Oxy,…was taking so much near the end all it did was make me sick..not fun…or happy…long story short Doc cut me off everything in 2021 with the opioid crisis etc…so been taking just lame T#3’s since then. Sadly, they suck and ALMOST, very close to better than nothing. But nothing is mind boggling to me so I suck it up and take whatever I can get- again- sad and pathetic. Tried coke a lot over the summer and surprisingly had the strength (and the lack of $$$) to continue down that dark path but even with the blow- idk if it’s because of my years of opioid abuse or what but idk coke is a stim of course so not even In the same drug category - but I never got nearly as high as everyone else around me…I was baffled. Felt it for sure but not nearly as much as my friends…and lots of them had used for years. I figure if coke wouldn’t even make me feel as amazing as I thought it should/.would then wtf? Not going down the K road- no way. I’d be dead within a few years. Which is how I feel inside anyways but at least I’m alive (??? I guess??) And NO this isn’t a “suicide watch” post no worries all good- idk if I helped at all or god help me made you feel worse🥲I’m sorry if I did. Just saying exactly how I feel for real. I guess my point is I hear you…loud and clear…and without sounding rude or hurtful as I would never want anyone to feel or go thru the shit I’ve been thru- in a way it’s almost comforting (if that’s the right word) knowing you’re not the only person who’s been ensnared by the devil 👿 I feel your pain and I sincerely hope and pray you will find your way thru and past this fucking storm ….My thoughts are with you, for real…
 
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