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XTC causes psychotic behaviour : new report. :)

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there might already be a thread about this but i can't find one. Look what i found in this months (or nexts, i don't know how they release them.. its got a yellow cover) cosmo in perth. hehehehe..
"E-mergency"
"Party girl alert: a recent report has shown that a single Ecstacy pill can cause long-term brain damage." (woops i missed a bit here i think it said something about seritonin) "Taking the party drug just once can cause psychiatric disorders including depression, anxiety and psychotic behaviour. It seems that flying high never felt so low."
Now.. i am not all that up to date but i haven't heard of any recent reports (i am familiar with the Lancet Journal pertaining to MDMA use and the John Hopkins institute study) which make any CAUSAL link, in humans at least, btwn average dose MDMA and anything LIKE what is being described here.. I would like to draw particular attention to the "just once" bit. is this true? does cosmo have a hotline to some cutting edge lab?. Should i be worried.. does cosmo know something i don't? thats always a worry!
Perhaps i am crediting them with actually knowing what they are talking about which is dangerous and highly unlikely. but surely such a popular magazine as COSMO would have done a little checking up on this? Hang on what am i talking about.. its COSMO for fucks sake. but i am still curious.. is there a report which says this? am i actually a wacko?
I am sure the whole neurotoxicity debate has been going on in here for ages but i have never heard anyone talk about "psychotic behaviour" (i am aware this can mean "unstable" amongst other things) i think, if anything, xtc users are suffering from depression because of articles like this! i know am.
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"The woodpile is so beautiful, about all the joy and beauty that I can stand. I am afraid to turn around and face the mountains, for fear they will overpower me. But I did look, and I am astounded" (1991) Shulgin
 
robo-t,
weren't you in cosmo once in your earlier modelling years? oh no, that was for cleo's bachelor of the year, woops.
was the ever-so informative "psychotic behaviour" article between an article about how you can't get pregnant the first time you have sex and a teenage angst ridden poem about lonliness at the age of 13 and a half
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cosmopolitan baH! everytime i read one of those magazines i feel fat and ugly
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as for them giving advice on xtc hEheheh they also tell you fuchsia looks good on everyone
 
ahhhhh.. good to see some carefully researched and informed responses from you guys.. :P thanks.. by the way i was mr texas for a bit.
PS: if anyone wants to know what a bloke was doing with a cosmo.. umm.. my line of work requires it. oh and the articles.
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"The woodpile is so beautiful, about all the joy and beauty that I can stand. I am afraid to turn around and face the mountains, for fear they will overpower me. But I did look, and I am astounded" (1991) Shulgin
 
Taking ecstacy, even one pill, will turn you into a flesh eating monster, and if you don't believe me, come to my place one day and check out my fridge...
But seriously, I havn't anywhere seen evidence to support a normal single dose of MDMA causing brain damage or "psychiatric disorders including depression, anxiety and psychotic behaviour". There is evidence that large repeated doses cause brain damage in monkeys, but nothing about humans, and nothing about major changes in behaviour... I'm sure BT or one of the guys with a better memory or some relevant links could shed some more light...
 
the problem with any studies on xtc is that it is such a NEW drug..well in terms of the use it is getting. it hasn't been the drug of choice until bout 15 years ago..and even then lsd was bigger and more widely used. so there prolly hasn't been much money put into funding any good studies...then there's the whole thing of the type of study which has to be used (can't remember what its called...taken too many drugs since i was in uni last) but you can't MAKE ppl do xtc to do a proper experiment... so they rely on advertising for ppl who are already users of the drug..which sonfounds their findings because there may be many other reasons in those ppls lives that contributed to the findings..such as other drug use..family issues...lack of education ect.
however more then likely there will come a time when they do find that xtc does cause some interesting things to go in our brains..specially to do with pschiatrict disorders. back in the 80's their was a group of US teens who decided to get totally smashed on coke...they went a lil overboard..and gave themselves self induced parkinson's disease. if you don't know how ppl get parkinson's its from a slowing down of dopamine getting to its receptors..when you do to much coke..speially at one time..like these teens did...u ruin the pathway the dopamine uses to get to their receptors and therefore give yourself parkinson's disease. these teens today are still in cali's pscyiatric hospital. sad case actually.
 
Tarsarlan: ahh..
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thank you. thats what i was after. I was just wondering if there had been any new studies that i hadn't heard of.
as far as i was aware there haven't been any studies in humans which are - as diskochik said - credible, due to the poly drug use and demographic of the subjects. and also, amongst other things, because its such a new drug - as diskochik also said - and the government isn't gong to be falling over itself to fund research which may find that the drug they have been condemning for decades is in fact harmless (relatively). A proper scientific study would be very hard to do for said reasons.
But if monkeys are anything to go by then according to the john hopkins institute.. if we each take 500mg a day for 2 months we don't come out so bright. hmmm i could have told them that!! hehehe.. i could have saved them all that research money.
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so cosmo is wrong there. Shock hOrRor.. i am going to burn my collection!
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"The woodpile is so beautiful, about all the joy and beauty that I can stand. I am afraid to turn around and face the mountains, for fear they will overpower me. But I did look, and I am astounded" (1991) Shulgin on his experience with ecstasy.
 
HA! yeah exactly.
i was gonna say i wish i was one of those monkeys.. but hmm.. i don't know about needles..
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and the whole disecting afterwards thing would suck.
there was an argument in rats that their bodies processed MDMA much faster and therefore the mg to kg ratio was not comparable to humans. (in rats it was 20mg per kg per day)
but i see that theory fucking off when the test subjects are monkeys.. used as human substitutes because of the similarities of course.. not least amongst which is their ability to break down chemicals like MDMA.
oh well.. they tried.
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"The woodpile is so beautiful, about all the joy and beauty that I can stand. I am afraid to turn around and face the mountains, for fear they will overpower me. But I did look, and I am astounded" (1991) Shulgin on his experience with ecstasy.
 
... and a new study of monkeys on coke and steroids indicates a propensity to want to strut around bear-chested and sweaty, groping the female monkeys as they walk by...
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hehe.. well i now know who to ask for a reality check next time i am diamond skying.
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