Opioids Will I go into opiate withdrawal?

[Oxy8_8]

I've never experienced WDs from opiates before (I have withdrawn from alcohol a number of times, including almost dying from grand mal seizures and other complications...I am 6 months sober now so alcohol is NOT an issue here).

I was rushed into hospital last November with a combination of acute alcohol withdrawal and severe acute pancreatitis (the latter caused such constant vomiting that ingestion of alcohol was impossible).

They detoxed me from the alcohol in hospital (using lithium or something). That was EXTREMELY easy as I was SO VERY ill with pancreatitis I didn't even noticed.

I was giving 10mg IV morphine every 4 hours for the first 4 weeks and then for 3 more weeks was given 20mg oral morphine every 4 hours.

I was given the oral morphine to take home and one thing led to another and I spent the next few months taking around 240mg a day rather then the prescribed 120mg.

They pretty much had me hooked on the feel of the opiates on all that IV morphine I had, although acoording to doctors I was not physically dependent on morphine when I was discharged.

I went on taking 240mg morphine (oral) a day until a week ago when I was switched to oxy. I have been taking 120mg oxycodone/oxycontin a day since (I chew my oxycontins as I get the OC ones where chewing still destroys the time release).

I'm just sick of spending my whole life an addict (I'm only 22) and decided to quit today.

So far it has been exactly 18 hours since my last dose (50mg oxy). I'm a little cold and shivery and have diarrhoea with abdominal cramping. Mentally, mild anxiety with startling severe depression and angst/hopelessness. My nose is runnign a lot and I keep having jags of crying/despair. Anorexia (I haven't eaten in 24 hours and have no desire to do so) and yawning, too.

I know this is all some level of withdrawal, but at the amounts of opiate I've been on (equiv. 120mg oxy/day, 6 months) can I expect to go into full-blown withdrawal?

Also, I'm home alone (although I live with my parents, they work all day) and have no other supplies or meds to help withdrawing.

I live in the UK...should I just cold turkey at home alone or should I go to A&E (emergency room) once symptoms get bad???

Please help/advise I'm very anxious about this.

 

[dopemaster]

Your gonna get sick, but Ive been sicker. You could CT it. Its not easy and you NEED some help, as in a babysitter to help make you jello and make sure you dont lay in your own feces for too long and to buy you some otc medicine. There is a whole list of otc shit to ease the suffering of wds. UTFSE. It would be the last time you have to feel this way. There are methadone programs but at least in the states they are after your money more than your well being and well thats actually a meaner monkey on your back. Since its not your fault Id go to a doctor if I could afford it and get a bit of subutex. I inject about 200 mgs of oxy and 200 mgs of morphine a day. I have quit this Cold turkey. It was awful, I didnt eat for weeks without absolutly forcing myself. I know the feeling. Covered in sweat while freezing. No sleep, unable to eat. Classic opiate wd stuff. The worst is the leg cramps. Morphine can hang out in your system for a good ten days so its a nasty one to come off of. Immodium or Lope is the main otc med to use and DXM and tylenol help. Im actually wding myself so feel free to message me if you need some advice. When in doubt go to the doctor. You only get one life. But that being said you sound like you will be ok but I cant give you medical advice to that degree, I can only relate my experiences. You could score a bit of suboxone or subutex and use that to ease your way down. By a bit I mean as little as possible. Symptoms peak at day 3 or 4 depending on habit length and you have not been using that long. Its your first kick so I think it wont be that rough. Stay fucking hydrated and seriously feel free to message me. Its not fault what happened as in post surgery opiate dependence. Fuck I choose my path.

 

[Oxy8_8]

I checked and we actually have all 3 of those things in the medicine cabinet haha.
I guess I'm lucky in that I get my oxy through prescription so my addiction hasn't gotten too out of hand because have limited access.
I never could find a dealer or anyone to sell my opiates so I could be on a lot more I suppose.

Thanks for the support btw. How you doin with withdrawals? What day you on?

I know I was in agony but I can't help being angry they pumped me full of morphine before they had even finished detoxing me from alcohol. They must have seen this coming.

 

[KillSurfCity]

after six months of daily (and rather heavy by the looks of it) use....you are going to get sick. if you aren't PSYCHOLOGICALLY addicted and think you have the willpower to do a slow taper, trying scoring some hydrocodone start decreasing your doses.
everyone's mileage is different but this has worked for me when i knew it was time to take a break. your body is different and i am not a doctor.i would start with 30-50mgperday for maybe a week (divided between the morning and the evening), then cut that to 20mg twice a day for a week. then cut THAT to 10mg/day twice a day for a week. THEN decrease that doseage to 5mg in the morning and 10mg at night for a week. next, 5mg in the morning and 5mg in the evening for maybe 2 weeks, then 2.5mg (once in the morning, once at night), finally 2.5 evening only and do that for maybe 2 weeks. after this, you should be able to stop without much dificulty. do NOT expect to feel 100% any of this time. you will still be able to work and such, though.
doing it this way takes EXTREME will power so if you have a really good friend that doesn't have a taste for opiates, i recommend having them hold the pills and administer you your daily dose every morning and not give you any more no matter how much you beg for. worked for me once before.

 

[dopemaster]

I used today. But I dont have much. Thats enough to put me in bad wds. I injected 60 mgs so far today. Ill probly do another 60 and take some klonopin and temazepam and maybe some diazapam. Im gonna try to get a front on oxy as I get some money tommarrow but its no guarantee I will get anything especially without cash. I get my refills in less than a week along with my monthly giro.

My addiction has been quite long term and it stemmed off a nasty injury and I ended up on chronic pain maintainance. Ive always been in the know on the local drug scene. So receiving scrips for pain and having acess to dealers, while not getting sufficent relief from pain has been unpleasant to say the least. I have made my problems worse by using IV and therefore its is hard to talk to my doctor about getting more medication. So I am having to wean off the needle and let my tracks heal. I will eventually get them tattoed over. I have done it in the past and well I just found more places to inject and scar up. Your lucky as an opiate addict gets, because if you get off the dope this time you got a shot at getting your life together faster than most.

I should add if you take Kills advice and cop some pills you should have a friend dole em out. I usually have my mum do it to be honest. Friends dont exist among hardcore drug users, not in the conventional sense where they wouldnt steal from each other or fuck each others partners. Its pretty much a free for all when you live like this. But I digress I would probly stay home and watch movies and sweat it out and just have someone help me prepare meals and whatnot. If you choose to indulge in opiates which is your call have a trusted pal or relative dole em out.

 

[Oxy8_8]

Fuck I gave in and took 50mg oxycontin (chewed) and 120mg codeine phosphate (chewed).
Why did I gave in? My mum begged me. Fuck.
I asked to her keep me pills and gave her a tapering off chart of how much to give me. My dad has detoxed me from alcohol 3 times in the past. I'd tell him what I was on and he'd keep a large supply locked away and give me 1 unit less per day. Effective and harmless and he never gave in to my threats or pleas.
However, as I said, they have seen me in advanced alcohol withdrawal and watched me have seizures so I don;t think they could handle watching me WD like this.

I'm seeing my doctor Wed morning. I'm gonna ask him to help me by gradually reducing my dosage. I guess it's more sensible than cold turkey if I can avoid the pain. Definitely don't want to use methadone as I know at lest 2 people who are now methadone addicts.

I DO know a guy I may be able to get some valium off which may help.

The problem is, I DO have legit pain. I have scarring on my pancreas and two damaged disks in my spine from a withdrawal seizure a year ago. I have no idea what I'm gonna do when all that comes back.

 

[dopemaster]

Well if you go in hollering addiction your pain meds get yanked. Ive gone in screaming hollering pain and gotten pain meds. I guess its what your end goal is. You didnt really take that large of a dose IMO. Im prescribed more oxy a day than that. With two fucked disks you could get crazy narcotic scrips at least in America. I know UK policy is to adjust meds for addiction and to treat pain regardless of addiction. I dont know how that actually works. I know that there isnt the same pill culture as america, but for severe pain there are stronger drugs. You sound like you got quite a few things going on. You might want to get your mind right before you do anything rash and fuck up your medical charts. Your very young and you already have pain probs and habituation comes along with being on pain medication. I always run short on meds before my refills but I still wouldnt come off pain meds for anything. So that being said I get dope sick every month. If I was in your shoes Id try to get my dose upped or just chill and assess when calm. Benzos such as valium would help you chill out and I usually take alot of stuff like that when Im low on opiates or quitting them.

 

[Oxy8_8]

I got caught filling in repeat scripts for oramorph (to the tune of 3x my prescription) not long ago so my doctor is kind of weary.
I might just try and get my dose raised my the doctor. If he would prescribed like 50mg/day more I wouldn't run out early every time.

 

[dopemaster]

If you do get your shit raised try to build a surplus from the first scrip. If Im in pain life without opiates is rough. I have quit my habit and most my relapses where due to pain. One time I got clean for a bit, i felt ok, but my back and injured limb hurt to no end. I guess you gotta decide whether you wanna be on or off opiates.

 

[Oxy8_8]

I wanna be on them, it's just I always run out and the WD SUCKS. If I can get my script raised by like 50% all is fine.

Btw, I found like 60 tramadol 50mg capsules in the back of a drawer - I forgot I had them. Do you think taking tramdol would stop me withdrawing? I know it's weak but it's still an opioid, right? Say if I had to use it for 2 days?

 

[dopemaster]

Yes tramdol will help stave off wds. I found I had to take quite a large amount but you have enough for two days. This site does not condone dosing advice so figure that out yourself. But I think the tramadol will help out alot if you take enough.

As for your doctor I would inform him your were in the hospital and now your current dose isnt cutting it. Do you get regular oxycodone or oxynorm? I had read that naxalone is put into oxy to prevent injection and insuflation in the UK. It may have been Canada, but I was thining UK. Is that true of all pills or just some cases or brands?

Also do you guys says shit like "fuck off you poof wanker or are you taking the piss or well thats just fuck all"? I love that british show shameless and I am quite amused by british slang. Have you heard of the british rapper Scroobius Pip? I like his music.

Can you just talk in british slang as much as possible in your future posts. I think it would be funny.