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Why the hell is alcohol legal anyways? What do you think?

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Alcohl causes about the same damage to one's health and life, can tear a family apart just like other illicit drugs can? I speak from family experience as both of my grandfather's were drunks, all 5 of my uncle's on my father's side including my father suffer from alcoholism. I carry the addiction gene obviously and if I were to end up an alchy or an addict, than I am glad I am the only drug addict in the family, my addiction is involves cocaine and meth, never been a fan of alchol. I know for sure my fathers alcoholism caused the divorce of my parents. The people that can drink and leave it alone, cool beans. But with all the fatal dui's that happen everyday, the millions of domestic violence calls that are made as a result of alcohol and physical abuse have got me wondering why the hell its legal in the first place. If alcohol is legal, all drugs should be legal as most seem to cause the same problems but in their own way. What's your take on this??
 
I am 100% in agreement. I'm more pro everything ( personal choice ) so I would never say ban liquor, I just find myself irritated with what is deemed legal and socially acceptable and what isn't
 
Alcohol is worse than a lot of/most illicit drugs. The easy availability and social acceptance just adds to that damage.
Alcohol is legal for many reasons, and it's going to stay legal for many reasons. There is no logic/rationality involved in the legality of drugs, and the general populous is happy condoning harmful drugs and holding contempt/disdain for healthier/safer/better alternatives.

TDS > Drug Culture?
 
I guess part of me has a personal bone to pick with alcohol, after being young once and watching him verbally and physically abuse my mother while drunk, it would be fair to say the reason I started using drugs was I too have an addictive personality, and to cope with the trauma I picked up cocaine because i would be damned to end up an alcoholic..
 
It's legal because it provides a temporary escape.
Alcohol also has been used for various things. Religious... ect.
It's always been around. They tried making it illegal, but it didn't work out so well.
ANYTHING can become habit forming. You can get addicted to pretty much anything that feels good.
So it's not really alcohol's fault that people become alcoholics.
I personally don't drink. But I can't handle myself when i'm drunk. It shouldn't be illegal because it wouldn't be fair to those of us that can drink and do just fine
 
sometimes i enjoy alcohol a lot, other times not so much. I don't think it should be illegal though. I agree with what Cotillion said. It's been around for so many hundreds of years it's never going to get banned, everything else should just be legal though then there would probably be less alcohol related deaths, accidents etc.
 
Isn't there a thread on this already? Titled "Do you hate it when people on alcohol put us down?", or something like that. It's not exactly the same, but the discussion pretty much is..

Anyway.. Yeah they make alot of money from taxes on alcohol and tobacco which I'm sure is one of the main reasons they don't ban alcohol. Also, it's been legal for so long that when they try to ban it there will be massive protests. The demand would be the same, but the supply would be cut off. Leading to a LARGE increase in crime rates. (See prohibition...)

I think cigs wouldn't be legal either if the government didn't make such ridiculous amounts of money from its taxes.

They keep 2 of the worst drugs legal.. Makes perfect sense 8)
 
If it's just about making taxes, then legalise other stuff and tax it, right? It's not that simple, because with alcohol there's this socially acceptable idea of "drinking responsibly," and it is on the pretense of responsible use that the government condones it at all. With the existing views on illegal drugs dictating that it's all bad, and for the State, the DEA, etc to not be open to the idea of responsible (illegal) drug use, they're probably hesitant to change this stance to mirror that on responsible drinking. Why? Because it would be something of an admission that they were feeding wrong information to the people before (that the whole public safety thing was a cover), mass-imprisoning people for the wrong reasons, etc. In an age where there people's trust of its government is already a very sensitive topic, this type of change would likely raise distrust of the government and disdain for a lot of its key figures. So in short, they're going to milk all of the money out of the legal drugs as they can, but don't expect the logic to be extended to the illegal ones ever. Except *maybe* marijuana in a few decades.
 
Yeah, it's all politics: the fact that some drugs are legal and others prohibited is a detail of history with some dark-as-it-gets black ops and vested interests behind it. And as has already been pointed out, the 'noble experiment' of prohibiting booze was arguably even less effective than the 'war on drugs', creating a whole generation of alcoholics, not to mention toxic moonshines and bathtub gins causing blindness and organ damage to legions of 'free-thinking' drinkers. Alcohol's certainly amongst the most damaging and vulgar of drugs in excess/for certain individuals with hereditary predispositions to alcoholism (like me), but I don't think one can make a convincing case that bootleg meth is less harmful, to individual users or society. Also, predisposition to addiction (and there's a big one on both sides of my family) is promiscuous: booze, meth, smack, benzos: it'll grab onto what's available, and only really selects a drug of choice if a range of substances are easily obtained (think about junkies in jail abusing the hell out of Seroquel or whatever they can get scripted). I've seen research showing that the only problem drug users who predominantly stay 'faithful' to one drug are boozehounds, mostly, I suspect, for reasons of social acceptability, legality, and the vast space for self-deception they engender. Alcoholism is such an insidious, easily concealed and denied addiction, and I doubt that's ever going to change.
 
Alcohol has strong roots in western culture, drugs do not, except for the crazy remedies of the 1800's and the minds who got theyre creativity from the chinese opium dens. It is also because the government makes alot of money from alcohol sales. One might argue that nowadays doctors equally hand out receipts for strong opiates and benzo's are readily available OTC in many many countries due to the privatisation of pharmacys.Making alcohol and especially a good tasting liquor is much harder than it seems whilst growing good quality marijuana with the right conditions is fairly easy and that is why users are only allowed to have a certain ammounts of plants even in the places where marijuana is legal for medical purposes, not because these "sick" people are selling it on, marijuana would be good to legalize because it cant kill you and the government knows this, but the government wont make half of what they make from alcohol because most people would just grow theyre own.The government also has to keep going with what they have been saying for the past many years and the whole anti-drug mentality is widespread and most ignorant people (60% of the population atleast) are also so brainwashed that it is difficult for politicians who are less ignorant to get a say because they lose amongst the voters and theyre fellow politicians who are like %90 of state leaders and politicians around the world, corrupt and ignorant.

If you couldnt be fucked reading the above your answer is that it is due to various factors not just one reason.
 
Alcohol doesn't kill people, ya know.
People kill people.
Everyone knows when they've had to much, they just choose to ignore their common sense and drink as much as they possibly can for whatever their reason. If they die from Alcohol poisoning is it alcohol's fault or is it the person's fault...?
I don't think that drugs cause addiction either. I think you are born with this disease (addiction) and that when you find that high that you've been searching for you do it again and again then you can't see yourself living without living high. Is it meths fault people get addicted? no, people are born with addiction and meth just happens to rub them the right way
 
RedLeader said:
If it's just about making taxes, then legalise other stuff and tax it, right? It's not that simple, because with alcohol there's this socially acceptable idea of "drinking responsibly," and it is on the pretense of responsible use that the government condones it at all. With the existing views on illegal drugs dictating that it's all bad, and for the State, the DEA, etc to not be open to the idea of responsible (illegal) drug use, they're probably hesitant to change this stance to mirror that on responsible drinking. Why? Because it would be something of an admission that they were feeding wrong information to the people before (that the whole public safety thing was a cover), mass-imprisoning people for the wrong reasons, etc. In an age where there people's trust of its government is already a very sensitive topic, this type of change would likely raise distrust of the government and disdain for a lot of its key figures. So in short, they're going to milk all of the money out of the legal drugs as they can, but don't expect the logic to be extended to the illegal ones ever. Except *maybe* marijuana in a few decades.
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I can see you thought this through. :p I agree 100%.
 
I agree it does not make sense given the harm that alcohol does to peoples health and the social issues it causes for that to be legal and other drugs to be illegal. I think it is due to the fact it has been available for so long and that it is popular with all sections of society. This is due to the fact it is so easy to make and this fact also means that any ban would be easy for people to get around (they even make it in prisons ffs).

Ideally everything should be legal imo.
 
for sure alcohol is just as bad as any illegal drug, maybe worse from a health stand point. There is so much money in the business that it will stay legal forever. It does so much damage its like a hurricane. Destroys your body, not to mention all of the drunk driving fatalities and not just the drunk driver, but the innocent people who are just in the wrong place at the wrong time. It literally turns people into animals, end up doing shit you would never do sober, inhibitions fly out the window, slows your CNS and PNS, ages the body... Show me another drug that does all that damage in one bottle.
 
I wish laudanum was still a medicine the doc would give you to cure even the slightest of pain, or a cough even.. :p
 
Cant believe Morphine & Heroin used to be sold through a Sears catalog back in the day........too bad we werent part of those days, or are we lucky not to have been?

Alcohol imo along with tobacco are the worst drugs & kill more people on this earth every year than all hard core drugs combined. Yet the government knows better than we do & throw propaganda at us all day long on billboards & on tv..........& lets not forget about our school teachers that have been brainwashed into the whole money making political game.
 
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