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Why does it feel so damn hard to properly describe what an opiate high feels like?

Bomb319

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I really don't understand exactly why it's so hard to pinpoint the physical feeling of it - not some much the happy euphoria, drowsiness and warmth; you all must be aware of the same (or very similar) physical, pleasurable feeling that begins and feels best while you're "coming up", but can last all day "in the background" as well - especially codeine, morphine and pod tea (which of course IS codeine and morphine among traces of other opiates). With opiates, doing strong ones with a low enough tolerance will ALWAYS produce an amazing, euphoric, relaxing, and distinctive "opiate tingle" experience that very roughly feels like it's made out of half pleasant drowsiness, half outright relaxing pleasure - very similar to the feeling you get when you are freezing cold and suddenly sink into a comfortably high-temperature hot-tub...doing that produces a rush that IMO comes the closest of any other feeling close to what an opiate RUSH feels like. But there is also more to it than just that...The part you feel AFTER the rush, and the vast majority of the pleasure you feel only from opiates that can last for several hours, or comes in waves depending on the actual drug. It is even more difficult to pinpoint/describe than the rush of the IV, or any other mental effects.

Like I said before, I can only describe it as a unique combination of a pleasant type of drowsiness - maybe one that you would experience when you go home to a warm, comfortable bed after spending a really fun evening with friends, laughing a lot and having a great time. That's the euphoric component, but there is also a very prominent physical pleasure that I really want to be able to describe, but find it very difficult for some reason! It's a physical, pleasurable, warm sort of feeling that seems to become a lot more noticeable and even more intense if you "look" for it by emptying your mind as best as you can, and sort of paying attention to the inner-feelings of the core of your body - as though you are focusing on the sensation of being very drowsy to help you fall asleep.

It also seems to come and go in waves, and the effect is much more pronounced in certain opiates compared to others - methadone for example, and also strong poppy pod tea. The latter is the best for providing that indescribable opiate feeling with a pretty strong but stable intensity throughout much of the day.
You guys MUST know what I am trying to describe here, right? For some reason, I find it really frustrating how I can't seem to pinpoint and describe the distinctive opiate high in words, other than resorting to comparisons which of course don't actually DESCRIBE anything. Maybe one of you guys will be better at it?? :P

EDIT - I forgot to mention that another key feature of this is how it spontaneously increases in intensity again when you take certain potentiators such as Diphenhydramine - even if you take them well after your opiate, even many hours later! I would have thought that there would be potentiation only to the extent that it increases drowsiness, which becomes synergistic with the drowsiness effect of the opiate, thereby increasing it more and possibly making it feel similar to nodding. This is not the case (at least for me). It actually boosts the opiate's distinctive pleasure once again, and I have no idea what mechanism could possibly be responsible for that.
 
There seems to lots of differing views on an opiate experience. For me, it just feels like a huge relief from all the yuck feelings I seem to have suffered forever. Never a great euphoria, even when first trying opiates. I would best describe it as a calming with clarity, and the ability to function physically and mentally with ease.
 
When I first started, I would get split-second periods of euphoria - they were great because I'd never had that feeling in my life, yet frustrating because it didn't sustain for any length of time. In the beginning stages it also made me in a better mood, more energetic (I'm normally a slug) etc. Motivated me.
Now. It's only rare that I get the second of bliss. Greater chance when I've been under dosing or WDing.
I consider it now to be like bliss, being swaddled by warm blankets, in the comfiest bed/chair possible. No thoughts , just contentment.
But once it's disrupted by anything like adult conversation or having to stand up and do something- when I sit back down the feeling is lost
 
I think the word "euphoria" is loosely defined at best. It seems as though everyone defines it differently, or expects particular effects from any drug known to produce it. For some, it simply means relaxation or a numbing of their problems. For others, its a physical sensation of pleasure that only a drug can give you. The lines can really become blurred. I'll give you an example: you will find that nearly everyone from addiction specialists to patients claim that methadone either does NOT cause euphoria, or else there is rapid tolerance to that effect, and after taking methadone daily in the context of a maintenance program, it will only make you feel "normal" after a few days and prevent withdrawal symptoms.

While it certainly does do those things, I have been on MMT for nearly 2 years now. I haven't increased my dose in over a year, yet I still look forward to it every day. It may not produce a distinctive, intense rush like an injection of heroin, but I absolutely do feel it kicking in around 40 minutes after taking it. It has a definite and potent "opiate feeling" that for me is at LEAST comparable to 4 or 5 percs. I can easily feel the distinctive opiate effects kick in, and peak around an hour to three hours after. Throughout the day, it moves back toward baseline when I'm out and about doing stuff; however I can still easily feel it here and there, and more so if I'm just lying around doing nothing. It comes back more intensely in waves throughout the day, and becomes harder to notice by nighttime. By the next morning, I sometimes even have withdrawal symptoms come back, that are in no way psychological (dilated pupils, sweating and chills).

Anyway, when I take my methadone, there isn't really much difference between it and the strong, prescription opiates I used to take - again without the rush of an IV that never lasts long anyway. So when it does kick in and any withdrawal goes away and I feel opiate effects, my mood immediately lifts, I become much more talkative, and I also have much more energy, and even have an impulse to clean or do work that is otherwise tedious and I have no energy for. Would this be described as euphoria, or not?

I think that all opiates produce a certain set of distinctive effects in all people, with a fair degree of variation depending on the drug and it's potency and half-life, the amount of specific enzymes a person has which break it down and eliminate it, that person's expectations and prior experience, what you happen to be doing both when it kick in and hours later, and many other factors which can affect its function and perception of its function throughout its biological duration. What one experiences and/or describes as "euphoria" is as variable as these conditions.
 
I've had people who know my drug history ask what drugs like heroin and milder opiates feel like and what's the appeal of them a few times, and indeed it's a hard thing to convey in words. Most people, people who are totally straight edge when it comes to drugs, have very little idea what heroin does exactly. But are often curious.

The way I usually explain it... Is that you feel warm.., not hot, not cold, it barely matters how cold it actually is outside, to you it's warm. You feel safe, the closest approximation I've ever been able to think up, is to imagine a nice cool weekend morning, like when you were a kid maybe. You've just been woken up but you wanna sleep longer. So you're still a little awake and a little asleep in your bed. You occasionally drift off only to wake up again. You feel so comfortable under your blanket. It's kinda cold outside but not for you, for you you're feeling a perfect warmth huddled up in your blanket. You have nothing to do that day, nothing to worry about. No stresses about bills or anything else. No pain of any kind. Just happy and content and at peace. Like that, only even more. You feel good, really really good, more than just what you would feel I'm that situation. You also feel good all throughout your body. For me it felt like I could feel the drugs in my veins all over my body. That's the part truly impossible to adequately describe. In simplest terms, it's what id imagine heaven to be like. All over you feel good, indescribably comfortable and safe, like you could melt right into the floor, yet weightless.

That's how I describe it to people who are curious about why someone would keep doing it. Only if you do, that feeling goes away unless you have more, and more. And often it seems like the way you remember the best times are seemingly unattainable now. Eventually you barely get anything from continuing. But by that point, you've taken out a debt. You bought happyness on credit, and now you have to pay it back. And the interest is enormous. Hard core drugs are emotional loans. And one day you'll have to pay it all back and then some.
 
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have you ever been extremely in love with somebody, and they make you feel warm and great, and you wanna hold them forever, protect, them at all costs, spend your entire life with them? Thats how smack feels.
 
for me it's just utter peace. when i'm sober my mind is thinking all kinds of things, negative or positive, but heroin immediately replaces all that crap with utter wellbeing; all desire, worry, regret, fear, even happiness is washed away and replaced with utter blissful contentment.

on the physical side, it's like running a nice (not too warm,not too cold, perfect) bath throughout your whole body massaging any knots away with what i'd describe as love lava. any physical and mental pain, real or imagined dissolves and is forgotten.

then a few hours it's gone and in 99% of cases, you're fucked.
 
This is how I'd explain it, the only opiate I've had is Vicodin. But damn I felt good, very addictive though..
i wrote how I felt when I was high on it, I'm coming down off it as of typing this.

Numb from head to toe
Euphoria, sense of peace
feel like your floating and laying on a cloud
care free from everything
wanting to have my mouth open lol
wanting to close my eyes because they were so heavy

this can turn into an addiction extremely fast.. I've done Vicodin twice and I can see how people get addicted to opiates so easily.. and Vicodin is supposedly a weaker opiate, other than coedine . I can't imagine injecting myself with heroin, not doing that bs lol
 
Hmmm... Feels similar to the rush after you exercise a lot. That feeling after a workout actually is achieved by releasing natural opiates that are created in your body.

would be the perfect way to explain it to a non user, maybe?
 
Being wrapped up tightly in a warm blanket on the happiest day of your life right after you won a mini lottery on after a successful date with someone you're in love with??
 
mother love

A friend asked me how heroin feels. I described the high as accurately as I could, since you can't realy understand if you don't feel it. Anyway, after I told him about heroin effects, he told me that this sounds pretty much like parents love. Holly shit!I found it so accurate. Realy it's like you are a small kid in the hug of mother-heroin and nothing worries you or scares you anymore. Just warmth-safety-pleasure.
 
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