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Why can't I face consequences?

Ds

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hey everyone, i'm going through a rough time. I have some legal shit hanging over my head and theres a chance that I'm going to jail.
Some of you know that I was kicked out of rehab, well my CRO knows that I was in rehab, and I'm sure that she knows that I was kicked out. So that isn't good. My charge is a "loittering in a drug controlled area", aka "white boy in the hood buying drugs". When I was "picked-up" the cops didn't find anything on me, so they had to stick me with something so they got me for being in the hood, which i had to right to be there in the first place. Some of you know how bad addiction can be, and you end up in dark places getting your DOC. for me I didn't care where I had to go as long as I got my fix.
This all went down 6 months ago, I went to court for the charge and they put me on "CR" (Court Referal), same thing as probation. So my CRO told me to come check in with her once a month, piss for her, and pay $300 to go to drug classes. Well I went to rehab, and did good for 5 months, then got kicked out because they caught me with a rig, and that fake weed shit. so I got the boot. I'm pretty sure that they (the rehab that i was in) contacted my CRO and told them that I was discharged from their program. I did the right thing and enter another rehab deal, more like a halfway house deal (which I love it here so much better then the fucking faith based rehab where I was at). My CRO knows, but what I'm getting at is I missed court this month. (6 months ago the judge told me to be at court on this date when ever it was, the judge gave me a paper and told me not to lose it, I lost the paper..) So I probally have a warrent out for my arrest. I'm fucking scared of facing the shit. Like yesterday I was filling out a job app. and when it got to the criminal history I stopped and was like..damn what if I have a warrent, and what if they do a back ground check? the job most likely wont hire me.
I called my sponsor today and told him the situation, he said if I do spend 30 days in the county, thats 30 more days clean and sober. It goes back to my fear "Fuck Everything and RUN" which I'm good at doing.
Now the shits eatting me up, I don't know what to do. I don't want to go to jail, I don't want to be in anymore trouble. I'm 4 days clean now, and I can pass a drug test, so if I do have to pee, least i'm clean ya kno.

I've always been afraid to face consequences, is anyone else like this? call me a pussy but it's the truth.

what should I do for my CRO? If I do have a warrent how should I take care of it?
thanks,
<3
D's
 
Man up, face the consequences and get on with your life, drugs will get you nowhere. Call your PO and tell him/her what's going on and ask them what you have to do to get out the mess your in. If you have a warrant turn yourself in and do the time, if you have the money get a lawyer.
GL
 
How serious can that charge be Loitering in a Drug Controlled area actually be? Jail really ain't shit man, I'd honestly take jail time then probation for a minor offense such as that. For many having to face these consequences is the only way for those to actually make positive changes. I know that's probably what you don't want to here. Look it at this way you're going to stay clean one what or another, either locked up or in the world. And if you cannot make the correct choices for your self somebody else will.
 
well around here pinez every charge is serious. I would take jail time over this shit and clear it up except they have the new CR system which even if you spend time in jail you still are put on CR, and have to report once a month and do all of that shit.

Update:
I just talked to my CRO and she just told me to check in with the court clerk and see if I do have a arrest warrent. which I called and no one is answering their fucking phone, I left a message saying that I've relocated treatment facilities(sp), because I didnt want to say that I was kicked out of the last rehab I was in.. ya feel me?
ur right about the choice deal, If i don't deal with this shit, then they will.

I talked to the staff here and they said that if i am picked up then my bed n stuff will still be here, so thats cool. I don't know what a failure to appear will cost me, I know that you cant bond out over that shit, so that fucking sucks.
well least i tried, my CRO said jan/3/2011 will be the next offical court day, so I have a little time, but if i do have a warrent for my arrest then I'm screwd till then.
 
I thought that charge was only a ticket? How can they prove you were there to buy drugs in the first place?
 
No reason to freak out 24/7 over this, if you know you have a warrant then make the best with the time you have left, plus the charge doesn't sound serious anyway.
 
You might be able to check online for a warrant also.........
Most counties have that capability that I know of......... (I've searched for others before)
I'd call them back, or check online- find out if you have anything to worry about first.
Then the only thing for you to do is face whatever penalty there is.......
Running away is just going to make your situation worse and you don't want that.
You're doing good and you should try to keep on that path <3
 
I've never heard of the charge, "loitering in a drug controlled area" nor does Google acknowledge that this charge exists.
 
I've never heard of the charge, "loitering in a drug controlled area" nor does Google acknowledge that this charge exists.
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http://www.mrsc.org/mc/fife/fife09/fife0922.html#9.22.020


9.22.020 Drug loitering prohibited.

It is unlawful for any person to loiter in or near any thoroughfare, place open to the public, or any public or private place for the purpose of engaging in drug-related activity, which activity is in violation of Chapter 69.41 RCW (regarding legend drugs), Chapter 69.50 RCW (The Uniform Controlled Substances Act), or Chapter 69.52 RCW (regarding imitation controlled substances).

Among the circumstances which may be considered in determining whether the person’s manner or circumstance manifests an intent to engage in unlawful drug-related activities include:

A. The Place. The area where the person is loitering is a high drug activity geographic area; or the premises involved have been reported, to the knowledge of law enforcement officers, to be a place suspected of illegal drug-related activity; and

B. The Vehicle Involved. Any motor vehicle involved is registered to a known unlawful drug user, possessor, or seller, or a person for whom there is an outstanding warrant for arrest for a crime involving unlawful drug-related activity; and

C. The Person. The person loitering is:

1. A known unlawful drug user; or

2. The person is acting as a “lookout” by repeatedly leading, directing or responding to others for no obvious lawful purpose; or

3. The person repeatedly transfers objects or packages for currency in a furtive fashion other than in a retail transaction licensed under the business and occupation and sales tax ordinances of the city; or

4. The person manifestly endeavors to conceal himself, herself or some object that reasonably could be involved in unlawful drug-related activity; or

5. The person is known by law enforcement officers to be a member of a “gang” or association that is known by law enforcement officers to be engaged in illegal drug activity; or

6. The person takes flight upon the appearance of a police officer; or

7. The person is currently subject to an order prohibiting his/her presence in a high drug activity geographic area; or

8. The person displays physical characteristics of drug intoxication or usage, such as “needle tracks”; or

9. The person possesses drug paraphernalia as defined in Chapter 69.50 RCW. (Ord. 1660 § 1, 2008; Ord. 965 § 1, 1988).
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Was the first result from a google search.

However, the only thing(s) here that seems like it could be subject to some crooked cop interpretation is number 8, "displays physical characteristics of drug intoxication," or number 4, "endeavors to conceal..." or possibly number 2, being a lookout...... I think, that's all incredible junk, however... if I as a free citizen want to swagger around like an idiot(even though it looks like I'm intoxicated) in a known "drug area"(which is just an area like an other in this free country) then no one should bother me... It seems very obvious to me that this law is just a way to harass poor people.... and it also seems obvious that if your lawyer is half-way decent, and you have no drugs on you... it would be hard to get charged with this.
 
well D said it its a " your white and in the hood" law. one of my boys caught this charge a couple of months ago. its straight up bullshit, racist law. but they kinda do have a point, if they run your name and see you have drug charges, are from a suburb area, look shady and are in the projects they will hit you with this. i mean why else would you be there? to chill with the homies?

but D talk to a lawyer or something man. i missed a court date when i was out on PR and i just forgot about it. 2 weeks later they showed up at my house and took me to county jail for a week and set my bail at 10k. it coulda been avoided if i just called and found out when i could reschedule but i didnt really care at the time.

well you live and you learn just dont do it again. ;)
 
Unless you have a lot of money to fight this, you aren't going to win. Sorry man. That law was created to harass people who don't have enough money (bums and poor people) to fight it. Your best bet is to do your lil slice of time and get this shit over with. Being on paper is a death sentence unless you straighten up completely.

May I ask, what city did you get this charge in? Sounds like some East Coast bullshit.

But yeah, just go sit your time out and come out a new man. You'll thank yourself later. Good luck!!!
 
You're on paper. If you violated any of your conditions, they can throw you in on your next court date if there is a bench warrant on the charge, or if it is found out that you violated. Failure to complete court-ordered rehab or to pay fees/costs in a less than timely manner would likely result in a violation. Read your papers and comply with them.

I don't think it would be hard time or anything like that; it is possible you would be court-ordered into another rehab or halfway house for a nonviolent drug offender.

Good luck with your case. I wish I had more in the way of practical advice to offer. Take ownership of your actions and you will be far better off than if you had not.
 
pamalamadingdong said:
May I ask, what city did you get this charge in? Sounds like some East Coast bullshit.

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Birmingham, AL.


it's a fuck'd up situation. i think i was in rehab on the court date, but was kickd out of rehab afterwords i think. anyways the rehab is pissd, and i'm sure they arn't going to help me out. i wonder if it violates my rights, like i can ask the rehab to just fax me something saying that i was in rehab on my court date. i'm sure they are going to bitch about something.

i'm still trying to work things out, i just got off the phone with a bail bond's men, she said that if i do get lockd up then in this case i can be bond'd out because it really isn't my fault that i miss'd court, the rehab wouldnt set up a ride to take me (and usually they do).

so i'm not sure, i'm fucking broke so lawyer is out of the question. and still if i do "hard time" over this shit i'll still be on "CR"(court referal). so i'm screw'd any way,
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Yeah, I understand that loitering for the purpose of buying/selling drugs would be illegal, I just didn't know of it being restricted to a certain area.

I've never known the law to openly acknowledge gentrification.
 
damn man that fucking sucks. in jersey its just a ticket, not court or any that bullshit. just a fine they give white kids. but if its looked up it does look bad. i feel for ya. i would say face up to it, because running can only take you so far. it will catch up to you sooner or later, and when it does if you have been running it will be worse. if you just face it, and get it over with, youll be that much closer to having your shit together, so dont think of it as a punishment. everything happens for a reason, maybe this is the extra kick you needed to get clean and get straightened out. it took me almost getting arrested in the hood to send my ass to rehab, and who knows if that will be enough. i know i wont be straight for much longer, but who knows how long i can actually manage to keep it at bay. :/ people go through rough things to get to the places they should be at.

and the reason you cant face up to anything is because it has a little name called addiction. its a well known fact that addicts will spend most of their time thinking of ways to get out of things and using all their brain power to avoid things rather then using that energy to just do the thing they are trying to avoid. :/
 
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