White Magic

[GodandLove]

Oh, it's not literally like that. You can try to contact angels and positive devas, for instance. Rather than demons/evil spirits/negative devas who are more into that kind of thing.

You're right it's mostly the evil way. That's why white magic is so elusive.

Positive, Negative? Good, Evil?

These "Angles", or a better description would be, "Hyper-Evolved beings" that you speak of don't concern themselves with human ideologies. Such as good and evil. These beings are immortal, they exist and reside in places that are beyond death's reach. Evil to them is a point of view. It's a petty childish like comprehension of existence.

The belief that Good and Evil exists, is the most common and debilitating fallacy, that many dabblers and naive spiritualists fall prey to.

A Magician or Spiritualist, that only makes decisions based on, for, and in servitude of a belief, and of inherited moral perception will never reach true Enlightenment.

How can one know and truly experience Totality and Infinity if one's belief systems force them to subtract from Infinity and invalidate infinite possibility by excluding and occluding pieces of "existence", pieces that make up "existence" as a whole, from one's own existence?

 

[Ninae]

No, one of the most important jobs of angels is to serve humanity. The word angel is derived from the Greek word angelos, which means messenger. Meaning a messenger of God's light, love, and joy.

While the role of Devas/Elementals is to be the builders of matter, like in nature, the human body, or a piece of music. They're what brings life into this world (though they mostly reside in the 2nd dimension where most can't sense them). However, they work more with form, while angels work more with consciousness or inner life.

These spirits are very charming, and very artistic, though they're more attuned to beauty than love and can be cold. But in some systems the deva kingdom is considered the lowest of the angelic kingdoms and say a deva can graduate to an angel when it has developed a compassionate heart for humanity.

 

[Foreigner]

I too find the good/evil paradigm a little problematic, especially as it concerns magic. There really are no rules, only consequences. If you know what you're doing you can really get away with anything. Good/evil is a Judeochristian thing. Yes, some things are so menacing that we might want to call them evil, but they're just part of nature. I'm assuming that by good/evil you're referring to right hand path and left hand path. Neither path is pure, and you can't call either good or evil. There are also grey path practitioners that do both, yet subscribe to neither.

I don't know... seems like extremists on either side are a bit in la la land to me. Nature contains the sacred and the profane, why pretend one is better than the other.

 

[Ninae]

One thing I read in a great channeled book when I was 17, which sticks to mind, is how it said the magician is considered the greatest criminal from God's point of view as he manipulates with the energies of creation in a way that is not allowed or within divine law.

As on lower levels of consciousness people react more out of prinmitive instincts, and aren't really aware of or in control of what they're doing and as such can be seen as innocent in a way. While someone who can operate as a succesful magician is highly evolved, not necessarily in love but in other areas like intellect and psychic powers, and fully know what they are doing (this can take place when a higher consciousness soul shuts its heart center down and start to act more out of selfish impulses even though they are highly evolved).

I also think there are more innocent or neutral forms of magic, though. What is considered criminal is more likely the sort that is evil in execution and also invokes demons/evil spirits to perform the work. Obviously, Jesus was a high divine magician, but his magic was more about demonstrating the power of (embodying) the divine in the human world, or the power of spirit over matter. Not something many can touch, but probably what shoud be aspired to.