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RCs Which of *-FA series is most stim?
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tweex
Bluelighter
2-FMA, followed by 2-FA. Potency isn't that high, but they are both fairly pure stims. If you look up SARs, adding onto the ortho-position (2-position) on amphetamine is generally the only substitution that leaves good stimulant effects.
I'd personally stay away from any a of the meta (3-position) compounds because of the cardiac fibrosis issues with Fenfluramine.
The para (4-position) compounds are more serotonergic, and as a result perhaps a bit more neurotoxic. Regardless, not pure stims. I saw a paper extrapolating 4-FA is likely a lot less neruotoxic than MDMA, but it still isn't a straight stimulant regardless.
Subjectively I'd say 2-FMA is fairly similar to dexedrine, with a lot less of a comedown and a bit more bruxism.
I'd personally stay away from any a of the meta (3-position) compounds because of the cardiac fibrosis issues with Fenfluramine.
The para (4-position) compounds are more serotonergic, and as a result perhaps a bit more neurotoxic. Regardless, not pure stims. I saw a paper extrapolating 4-FA is likely a lot less neruotoxic than MDMA, but it still isn't a straight stimulant regardless.
Subjectively I'd say 2-FMA is fairly similar to dexedrine, with a lot less of a comedown and a bit more bruxism.
I'd have to say 2-fma has the best mood boost/creativity and 4fa has the body high, 4fma the empathy.
but 4fma and 4fa have tiring effect, and sometimes too much serotonin.
I'm looking for the best one to match with 5-apdb and not get any sort of serotonin reaction.
but also counter the sedation well.
I have combined 6-apb with 2-fma just fine, but it wasnt very stimulating, the 2fma definately made me stop rolling around on the floor gurning off the 6apb though.
I was thinking possibly 3fa but I also hear reports of 3fa just making everyone jerk off (like 4fma can do..
) for hours instead of anything productive. but also that it has the body high of 4fa, which 2fma seems to vastly lack?
Only 3- subbed stimulant I tried was 3-FMC which was pretty god damn stimulating at 8mg dose, moreso than 2fma is. but I know that usually BK/cathinone cousins to the amphetamines usually have higher norepinephrine to dopamine ratios.
but 4fma and 4fa have tiring effect, and sometimes too much serotonin.
I'm looking for the best one to match with 5-apdb and not get any sort of serotonin reaction.
but also counter the sedation well.
I have combined 6-apb with 2-fma just fine, but it wasnt very stimulating, the 2fma definately made me stop rolling around on the floor gurning off the 6apb though.
I was thinking possibly 3fa but I also hear reports of 3fa just making everyone jerk off (like 4fma can do..
) for hours instead of anything productive. but also that it has the body high of 4fa, which 2fma seems to vastly lack?Only 3- subbed stimulant I tried was 3-FMC which was pretty god damn stimulating at 8mg dose, moreso than 2fma is. but I know that usually BK/cathinone cousins to the amphetamines usually have higher norepinephrine to dopamine ratios.
sekio
Bluelight Crew
The 2-fluoroamphetamines are closer to amphetamine/meth, the 3- and 4-fluoroamphetamines are closer to MDA/MDMA.
Does 3-FA really lie in between the two?
Like I said I've tried the BK version of 3-FMA (4-FMC) and it was extremely stimulating (yet i COULD sit still, moving around seemed to increase the stimulation significantly) at around 8mg insuffulated (i did not redose and I knew better! and gave the rest of the 3fmc away)
Honestly I'm afraid 4fa might cause too much serotonin when combined with 5-apdb, but if 3-fa is exactly the same but with less serotonin, sounds like a winner?
But also the threat of it causing cardio problems concerns me.
Can anyone with 3-fa and 2-fa experience chime in?
Like I said I've tried the BK version of 3-FMA (4-FMC) and it was extremely stimulating (yet i COULD sit still, moving around seemed to increase the stimulation significantly) at around 8mg insuffulated (i did not redose and I knew better! and gave the rest of the 3fmc away)
Honestly I'm afraid 4fa might cause too much serotonin when combined with 5-apdb, but if 3-fa is exactly the same but with less serotonin, sounds like a winner?
But also the threat of it causing cardio problems concerns me.
Can anyone with 3-fa and 2-fa experience chime in?