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Which Magnesium supp. prevents Amphetamine tolerance?

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I take Adderall. I have read in various places that magnesium helps prevent or lessen tolerance to amphetamine. But, I keep reading all these different 'forms' or the magnesium....citrate, taurate, etc etc...which one is the CORRECT form to be taking for this situation?

Also, any other recommendations for supplements is appreciated. Thanks.

Could cough syrup (Delsym) be used in any way?
 
any. I think the only difference is the bioavailibility. Magnesium is good for your body period.

Not sure what the active ingredient in delsym is, but dxm is an nmda antagonist as well. If delsym has dxm in it, taking a low dose prior to taking amphetamines will work as well.
 
desylm is XR therefor you have to take into acount it will last two times as long as regular DXM
 
So how much would be considered a low dose of DXM?

I dont have a high tolerance to the Adderall....its just something that I want to try to prevent as much as I can. So far, I only take up 20mg/day. Not much at all.
 
does anyone know the specific details of using dxm or magnesium to combat adderall tolerance (like what type, how much, how often, and at what point in time)? thanks!
 
Nothing will combat tolerance of any drug, except staying clean for quite a time, but even that is only partly effective.
 
does anyone know the specific details of using dxm or magnesium to combat adderall tolerance (like what type, how much, how often, and at what point in time)? thanks!
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It does not matter what type; preferably something with no other active ingredients.

Dosing, I have no idea; for DXM in opioid use I have heard the dose on the back of the bottle or a little more recommended.

Magnesium I'm not sure, but DXM I think an hour beforehand so it is in effect when you consume the opioid.

Keep in mind these will only help stop your tolerance from rising, not lower it.
 
I recommend Magnesium glycinate/lysinate. I doesn't affect the GI tract as much as magnesium citrate. Both work good though. The problem with citrate is it acidifies your GI tract causing less absorption of amphetamines if taken around the same time.
 
Unfortunately, a lot of the supp.s carried in Kroger's and GNC (at least those nearest me) are only Magnesium Oxide or Magnesium Citrate, both of which have very low bioavailability and have other effects like dude above said.

I take Magnesium Taurinate because taurine is supposed to be good for heart muscular health, as is magnesium. Blood pressure and heart rate are something I got kinda paranoid about when I started taking d-amp nearly every day. Also, taurine is supposed to help regulate calcium metabolism and I know Mg++/Ca++ is one of those important balances, like sodium/potassium. If you can find glycinate or one of the other decent forms in a local store, I'd say go with that, though.

EDIT: P.S.

chester mcgruder said:
Does anyone know if this would apply Methylphenidate, or is it only for true amphetamines?
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Methylphenidate is similar enough to amphetamine for these purposes (magnesium reducing side effects and rate of tolerance increase) that I believe we can say yes. For therapeutic use, most probably, as there's some correlation between ADHD symptoms and low levels of magnesium. Though magnesium levels are low for most people, if supplementation a beneficial effect on your focus you'll find your medication more effect.

People I've known and stories I've read here suggest that this shit majorly helps the jaw clenching of MDMA, so any stimulant that has similar noradrenaline-caused PNS effects should also have reduced muscles tension. The NMDA antagonism of magnesium should slow the increase in tolerance for most of the typical stimulants. I think it has something to do with reducing the influx of Calcium ions into that... thing that holds the neurotransmitters before they're release into the synapse. I'm high and amped, I'm going to stop there before I say something that'll ruin my cred. Basically: "Yes."
 
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I know the liquid Magnesium is very fast acting and has highest bio availability, I never knew it would drop your tolerance, I thought it just helped your body to use more of the drug that you would normally piss out.
 
Do amphetamines cause a sore set of gums, perhaps sore jaws? I don't think I had any teeth grinding last night but I woke up with gums that hurt and I have good dental hygeine.
If so, would magnesium help?
I'm going to start taking mag. anyway.
 
If it was the methyl type of amphetamine, then may I remind you of meth mouth? I'm sure it probably applies to normal amphetamine too in fact
 
Ouch, I don't know what pictures were more disgusting...the meth mouth pictures they showed us in D.A.R.E. or the pictures of STD's I saw in Christian Morality. Well, I guess the latter.
Anyway I think I was just grinding my teeth in my sleep because it was gone when I woke up this morning.
 
xxl said:
Nothing will combat tolerance of any drug, except staying clean for quite a time, but even that is only partly effective.
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And from where exactly are you pulling this nonsense?

There exist many substances that will combat tolerance to a great many substances. Your comment is just completely false.

Perhaps you meant to say that nothing will totally ELIMINATE tolerance. i would agree with that statement, but to say that nothing will combat tolerance of ANY drug-thats just untrue.
how many times have we all read that nmda antagonists help to reduce tolerance to opioids. Do you reject this claim?
 
If I am taking Daytrana (transdermal Methylphenidate) would it matter if I just get the Citrate formulation that is nearly ubiquitous? Since it is absorbed through the skin then the additional acidity in my GI tract wouldn't cause any absorption issues, would it?
 
I've been checking this out for two days... can somebody just give a simple answer to the original question??? Assuming we "believe" magnesium will help curb tolerance and make it absorb "for better effects"..... What mg of magnesium (oxide) should be taken and how long before the dose of adderall? And does it make a difference to wait after taking the mag... That's all I want to know. The chemical jargon doesn't make sense to me... and I'm only testing it anyway.

No additional information or opinions needed please...
 
There is a good thread about it on drugs-forum with a lot of academic research papers.

Yes 1000mg is a good dose for the magnesium oxide. And anywhere from 15-60mg of DXM in the Delysum polymer coated syrup work very well.

Take in everyday in the morning or whatever. It also causes the amphetamine high to be smoother, less unwanted side effects that are annoying. Teeth grinding, etc also.

I've heard people say they have developed hardly and tolerance to their Adderall Rx in 9months so far.

You still can't take DXM every damn day forever either. But, its better to take DXM low does everyday and keep the same amphetamine dose than getting the Amphetamine dose raised 100% with not much change in the good effects of the amphetamine.

Hope this helps. My cat injected way too much 4-FMA and diamorphine today. He said it felt like the best MDMA he has ever taken.
*My cat is a druggy! But, the good type of druggy. Most drug users are dumb as bricks and they make all the good chemical illegal and RC chems made illegal too. Fucking stupid druggy children. Fucking smoking their JWH cannabiniod blends at high high doses to provent they are more of a pot smoker, stupid fucking crap.

GOD DAMN, My cat says he feels better after venting that. Seriously people, Be educated and don''t run your fucking mouths about LEGAL drugs!

Sorry, I need to put the cat to bed now....
:)
 
The correct answer is chelated magnesium. It's difficult to find, but any natural food store should carry it with all of their other vitamin and mineral supplements.
 
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