Which benzo is right for me?

[Alex000]

He never said alprazolam was too sedating. 0.25 mg - 0.5 mg alprazolam might be a good option as needed, but if he has had success with clonazepam in the past, maybe he should stick to it.

 

[Reefers]

He never said alprazolam was too sedating. 0.25 mg - 0.5 mg alprazolam might be a good option as needed, but if he has had success with clonazepam in the past, maybe he should stick to it.

Exactly. I've only tried alprazolam under the fog of other drugs, so I'm not sure about the sedation... but it has a really short half life and I'm going through minor EtOH w/d, so I dont think it would be helpful.

I'm going with clonazepam. Its my favorite of them all, but I stopped taking it when I took 1 or 2mg to get to sleep at mignidhgt, woke up at early in the AM to ride to work in rush hour traffic on my motorcycle, and was definitey hungover from it. Caused me to have a minor crash because my reaction times and attention span were down.

I feel that of all the benzos, regardless of half life, clonazepam seems to have the longest noticeable duration of action. Hours and hours later you can still tell you take it it is not a subtle benzo at all. Ill just have to keep that in mine when I dose.

Anyone experience the same?

 

[Alex000]

Well, my experience with benzos is pretty limited with respect to how many I've tried, but I never used Klonopin as needed, which I probably should have, I used it daily. Mistake made, benzo habit started. I do think it is subtle actually, but quite potent, and effective at the same time. Obviously, yes the effects do last for quite a bit of time.

 

[kokaino]

Sounds like what you're looking for is a short-intermediate acting benzo. There is a long tist of them, but you are left without many options because most are not commercially available in the US.

But out of the ones available in the US, there is oxazepam (Serax) - this one is weak, takes a while for it to kick in, but it does it's job well once it gets going. This is a subtle benzo that will relieve your anxiety without impairing you or causing amnesia.

Then you got alprazolam (Xanax) - this one is an excellent anxiolytic, but not much else. It has moderate and very subtle sedative effects, mediocre muscle-relaxant and anticonvulsant properties. Amnesia is not a problem with alprazolam, unless you take it in massive quantities. I've been on alprazolam for 4 years now and I don't have any memory issues.

You also have Triazolam (Halcion) and Temazepam (Restoril), but it's highly unlikely that you will get either of those prescribed for anxiety as they are high-powered hypnotics meant to treat severe insomnia so they have "knock out" power and are definitely not suited for daytime use. They are also heavy amnesics.

 

[Reefers]

Sounds like what you're looking for is a short-intermediate acting benzo. There is a long tist of them, but you are left without many options because most are not commercially available in the US.

But out of the ones available in the US, there is oxazepam (Serax) - this one is weak, takes a while for it to kick in, but it does it's job well once it gets going. This is a subtle benzo that will relieve your anxiety without impairing you or causing amnesia.

Then you got alprazolam (Xanax) - this one is an excellent anxiolytic, but not much else. It has moderate and very subtle sedative effects, mediocre muscle-relaxant and anticonvulsant properties. Amnesia is not a problem with alprazolam, unless you take it in massive quantities. I've been on alprazolam for 4 years now and I don't have any memory issues.

You also have Triazolam (Halcion) and Temazepam (Restoril), but it's highly unlikely that you will get either of those prescribed for anxiety as they are high-powered hypnotics meant to treat severe insomnia so they have "knock out" power and are definitely not suited for daytime use. They are also heavy amnesics.

I'll think about alprazolam. Ive read everywhere that it puts people to sleep and makes them retarded and makes them do crazy things, but thats probably because its the most abused, right?

 

[Alex000]

Well, it does hit hard, but you hear about people doing all that crazy shit because they are popping bars (2 mg) at a time, and want to get fucked up. It might be a little too sedating for you even in lower doses, but you get used to it, it doesn't like put you to sleep at doses like 0.25 mg - 0.5 mg. It doesn't hurt if you need to sleep, but I highly doubt it would knock you out. Maybe a little amnesia, but couldn't be much worse than that of clonazepam at low doses.

 

[Reefers]

Then you got alprazolam (Xanax) - this one is an excellent anxiolytic, but not much else. It has moderate and very subtle sedative effects, mediocre muscle-relaxant and anticonvulsant properties. Amnesia is not a problem with alprazolam, unless you take it in massive quantities. I've been on alprazolam for 4 years now and I don't have any memory issues.

Hmm, contrary to what Ive read, youre experiences were similar to what this study concluded (although with mice...).

Differences among nine 1,4-benzodiazepines: an ethopharmacological evaluation in mice

Abstract
The present study explored whether the profiles of action of benzodiazepines on intraspecies conflict behavior in mice are different. The occurrence of seven behavioral elements was observed in aggressive and timid singlyhoused male mice treated with drugs in paired interactions with untreated non-aggressive males. At low doses, some benzodiazepines (alprazolam, oxazepam and diazepam) inhibited defenses, escapes, or attacks, but did not reduce other activities (social sniffing, walking, rearing), and actually increased most of them. At comparable doses, other benzodiazepines (flunitrazepam, nitrazepam, clonazepam and chlordiazepoxide) stimulated only social sniffing, but reduced rearing or walking. Further benzodiazepines (triazolam and lorazepam) reduced defenses, escapes and attacks only at doses that suppressed most of the remaining activities as well. Thus, the nine benzodiazepines tested exhibited different profiles of action in the present study. Alprazolam, oxazepam and diazepam appeared least sedative, while triazolam and lorazepam were most sedative.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/r5hw6146384803t6/

 

[JoEhJoEh]

Benzo -Devil

Meanwhile I really have the impression, that prescribed drugs could get realy dangerous for us, also for me, i mean - especieally for my with high binging tolerance - in between there are always 4 to 6 weeks with just grass in the evenign, but noting else.
But back to topic:

Alprazolam is in therapeutic doses right for me and calms me already down during my normal working day. - great¨

But - when Im Binging - ohhhh my goodness...

Even now Im on 15 oxyzepam forte (50 mg) nd its great.

so - whatabout sniffing it?? Does that bring anything?

JoEh

 

[EnlightenedOne1]

Oh man benzos are all the same! I never get these threads!

You are WRONG...Even though most benzodiazepines share similar mechanisms of action, they all possess unique qualities and half-lives, binding potential, that make them INCREDIBLY different.

Go take 2mgs of Alprazolam a day for 10 days and then stop and record your thoughts and experiences...Then, do the same thing with Clonazepam.

Personally, I've been on benzos for over a year now at a high dose and am trying to taper but all benzos work differently for me...At this point, they don't do anything because of tolerance albeit I always hated xanax. Xanax made me angry, violent, exacerbated anxiety, and gave me horrible rebound anxiety. Ativan never helped my anxiety but made me take risks and steal things. Clonazepam and Diazepam are my faves.