Mental Health Which antidepressant will be best for me.

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I've had a lot of serious psychological trauma in my life especially the last few years. I tried prozac and sertraline. I'm now on mirtazapine and I hate it. I feel tired all day and that is not really compatible with the life style I want. I want something that will calm the depression and flashbacks but won't make me feel so tired and sedated. Any ideas?

Also I am in the UK and will be getting my medication via the NHS.
 
Honestly it's a lot of trial and error. Fatigue/drowsiness is a side effect of most anti-depressants and it's hard to tell which ones will affect you more than others.
For me a cocktail of multiple medications has worked best. I take Effexor during the day which actually keeps me up and my other anti-depressants at night. It's also very important to take your medication at roughly the same time each day/night.
 
SSRIs and mirtazapine didn't work for me.
Dissociatives did, but you have to be meticulous about dosing to avoid wandering into abuse.

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Mirtazapine resulted in me almost hanging myself. However i have Bipolar disorder not Unipolar depression. However Bupropion and certain Tricyclics such as Amitriptyline and Trimipramine have worked for me. The Atypical Anti-psychotics Quetiapine and Olanzapine also help me.

Ketamine has also worked for my depression but as stated above you have to becareful not to abuse it. Psilocybin and LSD also tend to help my depression for weeks after using them. But a bad trip could trigger off worse depression so as always it comes down to how you react to it.
 
Any suggestion one of us has simply doesn't hold much water as it's just what has worked for (at most, several), people, not what has been proven to work in your particular case through extensive clinical trials involving hundreds in a structured atmosphere. A good psychiatrist will listen to your dissatisfaction and with the medical information provided to them, will treat you based on what is most likely to work.

I can pretty much guarantee you that nothing will both work perfectly and work indefinitely. Drugs of abuse may eradicate your depression for a little while, but not so soon after will stop working as well, and then become useless beyond staving away withdrawal. Prescribed antidepressants may work for as long as you're clinically depressed, but chances are you'll still have residual symptoms.

Of course, the latter choice, that being what the doctor gives you for depression, is the best. You can supplement an antidepressant with lifestyle changes, like exercise and meditation, to get much more healthy.
 
I've had a lot of serious psychological trauma in my life especially the last few years. I tried prozac and sertraline. I'm now on mirtazapine and I hate it. I feel tired all day and that is not really compatible with the life style I want. I want something that will calm the depression and flashbacks but won't make me feel so tired and sedated. Any ideas?

Also I am in the UK and will be getting my medication via the NHS.

How long have you been on mirtazapine? For me the next day grogginess only lasted about a week.
 
I can pretty much guarantee you that nothing will both work perfectly and work indefinitely. Drugs of abuse may eradicate your depression for a little while, but not so soon after will stop working as well, and then become useless beyond staving away withdrawal. Prescribed antidepressants may work for as long as you're clinically depressed, but chances are you'll still have residual symptoms.

The same could be said about many anti-depressants. I know many people on SNRI's like Venlafaxine as well as SSRI's like Paroxetine as 2 examples who get little to no benefit from them anymore but the withdrawal is so brutal many simply don't want to go through it. I don't know if i would put Ketamine in the high level of abuse category as it doesn't cause physical wd symptoms and i personally never noticed any psychological cravings from the drug that i couldn't handle. The worst side effect i ever got from Ketamine was when i used it for a week straight (IV and IM) to kill the pain of a broken wrist that my dumb ass didn't wanna go to the doctor for. I felt abit spacebrained for a few days after stopping it but nothing major. In treating depression though you don't have to use it on a regular basis like you do for pain so i would imagine any long term effects would be minimal and certainly no worse then the depression itself. However some people do find these drugs addictive and using Ketamine or any other dissociative's regularly and long term is not a good idea at all.
 
I'm on mirtazapine and it made me feel like shit for the first 3 weeks . But after that it made my depression disappear I felt like I was on a low dose of Vallium 24/7 because it took away my anxiety . And it doesn't interfere with my sex drive I would recommend staying on the mirtazapine for a while if that doesn't work tell your doctor about your symptoms you've been experiencing and he can get you to try new medications but you have to try them for at least 2 months because there not gonna work over night .
 
I have been on fluoxetine since it was first avalable in the U.S., over 25 years ago, and have been on many other antidepressants.
Your question cannot be answered.

Tens of millions of people take antidepressants and each person has hundreds of millions of brain cells and neurotransmitters, firing in their own unique way -- that is, no ones brain reacts to any drug as does your brain. On depression forums -- like this website but just mental health posts -- they say "YMMV" -- your mileage may vary -- hundreds of times a day to questions like yours.

Two ideas: Many, if not most people suffering moderate depression, do not get better because they do not stick with the drug long enough and/or are not at high enough dose. Many studies have shown, for example, that most general practitioners, family doctors in the U.S., only prescribe up to 40 mg. of fluoxetine. Usually -- YMMV-- most side effects go away in four or six weeks, unless they are sleep or tiredness related. So fluoxetine can be taken to 80 mg., with only some chance the side effects would get worse. I would bet the drugs you have been on have not been given a chance to work at high enough dose. It takes months, sometimes, building up a drug. Fluoxetine takes a long time to build up, six to eight weeks for some. Effexor, venlafaxine, does best in studies of people with severe depression. It has helped me and people I know. But, again, YMMV. It is tough to build up -- so if you are very depressed -- there often is not the time to wait. And millions of people will tell you it is a bitch to get off.

Second, look at all of the stuff people are given as adjuncts, to boost the antidepressant if you can tolerate more, such as a stimulant, lithium, or what works for me best, and has the least side effects, wellbutrin (bupropion), which also helps some people dealing with fatigue.

People can only tell you their experiences. I cannot emphasize that enough.

The research done on these drugs is very bad and provides no map on what to do, since the drugs often don't do better than nothing, placebo. If you have severely depressed people, such as in hospital, then the drugs will often do 10-20% better than placebo. If you do not like mirtazapine, you have to have a few real trials on fluoxetine, sertraline, venlafaxine, citalopram,etc. -- depending on what they presribe in the U.K.

Then if it doesn't work, or doesn't work fully, depending on what the NHS will give you, try adding an adjunct (another drug). I take Adderall, an amphetamine, while millions of others take ritalin, dexedrine, and other stimulants. Many people find adding thyroid medication helps the antidepressant. There are a bewildering number of combos, but one thing can be said and is true much of the time -- people do not build up slowly, take enough, long enough, and often do not try combos if one drug doesn't work before abandoning that drug.

If your depression is severe, you cannot function, or at risk of harming yourself, ECT is still the most effective treatment, especially unipolar -- just one side of the brain -- not bipolar, both sides of the brain: unipolar has less chance of causing memory or thinking problems, but I do not know what they offer in the U.K.Don
 
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