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where is it practical to move w/o savings?

red22

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Is there anywhere outside the U.S. where it's practical to move and just be able to find work (no exp. required)? I'm now really turned off by this country and would like to get out of it sooner rather than later. Of course I might have to save up a bit first but maybe not...
 
It's a bit of a vague question - what are you looking to do? Bar work, Teaching English, unskilled labor, do you have any qualification or skills that you could use etc What turns you off with the US ?

Some countries require you to have a certain amount of money before you can enter to stop illegal workers - some don't issue tourist visas if you have no money with you etc. You have missed the typical summer season where you could backpack and do casual work in bars etc in the main holiday destinations.
 
If you have Skills, you can do it fairly easily without any savings and all on credit. Depending on where you want to go, you get a passport, a work permit, a long term stay visa, and permission to live there once you've arrived. It involves paper work and various application fees. For the work permit, you need to get hired first.
If you don't have skills, there are other alternatives include marrying a citizen of that country, going there and working for the tourist season, having an "anger baby" while there, moving there illegally, etc.

I recommend reading some expat websites for the countries you're interested in and finding out more there.
 
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Hard for me to say, Bearlove. Drug laws and privacy laws, for one.

Yeah, expat guides and books. I just need to get to know the pros and cons of each country and then start submitting applications.
 
Hard for me to say, Bearlove. Drug laws and privacy laws, for one.

Not sure how to expect to get an answer when your not willing to expand on your post. If you have a drug conviction then this reduces your possibilities for travelling as some countries (Australia for example) will check - regarding what your keeping private then some countries with strict laws may be also crossed off your list.

Happy hunting
 
i've met a bunch of americans here in canada living/working without any savings. if you've got any brains and balls it's possible to get ahead in a corporate environment with no creds. either way, people say they're going to move and change their life and shit all the time, it seems easy on paper but it takes a lot of conviction to really go through with it.
 
it all depends on exactly where you move ofc but in the toronto area there are a lot of mid-sized corporations hiring unskilled labour constantly for $12-14/hr and good benefits within 6 mo. the last corporate place i worked at, there was a dude my age from the U.S. who applied for a trainer position and suddenly went from $12/hr to $20/hr with better hours too. not bad for a year of hustle with just a highschool diploma.
 
So, you're saying you could just like take quick online courses for MS Word, Excel, and some basic math courses and be good to apply for the job?
 
I dunno, a lot of it depends on your soft skills like communication, negotiation, personality
 
imho,
this is a topic many like to discuss and dream about, but once you get to the actual logistics of moving and doing things it all comes crashing to a halt.

even with skills, diplomas and a bank roll, moving away and starting over in another country is a BIG thing, and requires a lot of determination. there is also the potential to lose a lot (or everything). i also find that most people tend to do better in their home communities/environment/countries, simply because you re used to the system and know how to play by its laws, and those around you recognize you as one of them (for better or worse, your country loves you more than other countries, at least in the beginning).
 
I would suggest to travel first.. and find a place that you could see yourself living, and then research information on jobs, necessary documentation, work permits etc. I know your thinking travel will be expensive, but it can be done cheaper then you can imagine.. you just have to compromise. You can do volunteer work virtually everywhere for free accommodation and food.. this allows you to 1) Remain in one place/city for a month or more and get a feeling of the lifestyle, people and customs. 2) Save you a lot of money, when i was volunteering i was spending no more then $40-50 US dollars a week.

I am attempting to move abroad.. I have spent the last couple of years travelling and doing research, it's challenging and by no means easy.. but if your determined you can achieve it. I'm not doing it for money, but for the change of lifestyle.. it will involve a couple of years of planning and saving money, which i'm hoping to invest in a business partnership overseas.. but it could also all turn ass up, however.. i'm willing to try. It's easy to remain in your home country of course, but easy isn't always the most satisfying.

You also have to be comfortable with the idea of leaving everything behind.. some people become homesick or miss their family. This is why i suggest travelling first to get a feel for been away for an extended period of time, and also as an opportunity to do first hand research.

I mostly met Expats that were either teaching English or working in the I.T department for international companies; either as translators for marketing and sales or programming.
 
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My first and most stable advice.. Make sure you know the language!!!
A lot of ppl in the u.s. Bicker cuz there are more Spanish speaking ppl, that have little to no English vocabulary.
Wherever u choose to go, make sure u can speak it without hacking it up too much. Some countries get very offended when u slaughter their language. Plus, maybe learning slang terms if they have it. Would hate to ask where the bathroom is and accidentally call someone's mom a bitch or something.. Some countries languages change and tweek faster then Rosetta Stone can make em!
 
Any town near an oil pumping/rig/refinery.

However, emigrating to new countries takes many years with no bank account, and work visas can be tricky in many countries.
 
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