Cocaine When should I start getting worried?

[buriedlies]

Was just wondering.. What are some signs that you should back off the cocaine for a while.. Like, when should I start worrying that it is becoming an addiction?

I honestly usually have a sort of mental "line" that I make sure I don't cross. If I get too close to my mental danger zone line, that's when I get worried and try to back off / control myself, etc.

Im not gonna lie, with cocaine, I might be a little bit closer to my line than I want to be.

Maybe I am being too cautious, but what do you guys think


Just some info on myself.. I usually just binge, then I don't buy for a month or so. I buy a gram and split it with my friend whom I always do my coke with, so we do .5 grams in a night - no more. Usually I can control myself, as in not even do that many lines and have some left over. I keep a close watch on my drug use.

This NYE though, I went and bought a gram of some really, really good shit. Shared it with friends, as always. The next day though, I couldn't help but buy another two grams (first time buying anything over a gram). Not as good as the NYE shit, but still good. I shared the first gram with my said friend (friend D, we shall call her) that I always split it with. I was getting too close to my mental line than I wanted to be so I only did three lines, didn't feel the need for more, all was well. She did only three lines as well, because we promised we would control ourselves this time and not do line after line after line bullshit and finish it all in a day, etc.

So I go home feeling pretty good about it, friend D and I decided that we were not going to do anymore for a while or unless there was an event/party or something. We decided this because we both felt the same, that it was getting a bit too out of control, I suppose.

Wow, sorry for this long ass banter.. I'll get to the main point now. My apologies.

So, basically, I get home with my gram and a half and don't really feel like sleeping yet.. I did a line. Cool. Then I did another line.. then another line.. Then it got to the point where I said to myself "this is the last fuckin line" and what do ya know.. I do another line. I tell myself the same thing "last line" and here I am now writing to you.

Am I just being extremely too cautious? Is this not even that bad/much? Anyway.. Thanks for all the advice in advance. Very much appreciated.

Thank you to those who actually read all this.

 

[the real yeti]

That craving feeling you get while you're doing coke isn't necessarily the beginning of an addiction. Cocaine is by nature an extremely "moreish" drug...it's very euphoric but also very short-lasting, which makes your body crave another line as soon as you start coming down, (which with coke doesn't take long at all) and it's hard for you to say no. You've been smart to buy only a gram or two each time; I never buy more than I plan to use at any given time. Me and my buddy went through an 8-ball in a couple hours once...it's powerful shit.

Anyway, you seem like you've been very smart about spacing out your use, which is the key to not getting addicted. Coke can be very mentally addictive, don't get me wrong, but the peculiarity is that coke addictions rarely jump out of nowhere at you like they can with something like heroin. With coke, as long as you can say "I'm not buying any more for X amount of time", you should be fine. Nobody can tell you where your line is because everyone's is different, but as long as you're not starting to crave it, say, five days after your last use, you should be A-OK. Just space out your uses; one or two grams a week is the limit of safe use for most people, I would tend to say. I read a study somewhere, I can't exactly remember, about cocaine users in the Netherlands; over two years, of users who kept their use to under two and a half grams a week, only 5-7% became addicted.

 

[buriedlies]

Wow, thank you so much for that reply. I actually feel very enlightened, haha, so thanks. You've also eased my mind. I definitely try to be smart with my drugs, cocaine just seems to be a bit of a hard one. I very much like your two gram a week limit, that will be a good tool for me to use.

Thanks again, I appreciate your response and extremely helpful advice infinitely. ♥

I hope to see you on the boards more, much respect to you.

 

[Hardcoreprawn]

I agree with the real yeti. Cocaine is very mooreish. Its very very very common to not stop till the stash is gone which is why you shouldnt buy more than you intend to use. I haven't done coke in many years but I was also a occasional use like you. I never developed an addition to it.

Money and availability is a factor too. If its easily available and you can afford it, you are more likely to use weekly or even daily. The loner that goes on te more likely you are to develop problems. I have had a friend develop a proper cocaine dependency and its not a pretty thing.

I would say more recent RCs have more dependency risks than cocaine (ex: MDPV, mephedrone). At the minute, you sound ok but if Iwere you I'd take it as an internal yellow light. Not bad enough to be a red light but bad enough to stop and consider patterns etc.

EDIT: Pesonally, a gram per week to me seems like alot...asking for trouble.

 

[buriedlies]

Thanks, Hardcoreprawn, for reassuring me about the moreish of this drug. Was getting a bit scared there. I only just started using August of 2011, so I was not sure if this was a warning sign or not. I am sorry about your friend. I completely agree with you, my yellow light is waaay bright. Thanks for the heads up and the insight/opinion.

I agree that two grams per week is a bit much, I'd rather not do it weekly, but I do like the idea of limiting per week or month.

I think two grams per month might be a better gauge, maybe. I don't know. Either way, I really like the idea.

EDIT: Goddamnit. How do I stop myself from doing more lines? This is exactly what I DON'T want to do.. A whole gram in one night. Ugh, I used to have so much more control than this. I guess Im just bored and lonely at the moment. Im going to guess that's what it is.. Since Im not like this when Im around friend D or anyone else. Im sort of just trying to bypass time until she gets off of work because we have plans today. So, guessing that's why.

But how do I stop doing lines, nonetheless? Because I've done yet another.

 

[Hardcoreprawn]

Its up to you really. I never got into it much but I like stims a lot. I think it was more a lack of money and availability that kept me safe. I never had a dealer or anything like that. Now that I've tried certain RCs I find there can be definite addiction potentials. I now have easily availability and the finances to support a habit. Self control becomes a much more important issue here.

But yeah, as I said...its up to you. You do seem like you actually care about your health which cant always be said of some (sadly). I am a bit more like you. I want to enjoy and use drugs but not abuse them. I dont like getting "trashed"....

 

[buriedlies]

I apologize, but what is an RC? I tried googling it, but apparently I fail at google. Very well said, I can very much relate with that. I have both a connect and finances, so I am trying to be extra careful. I have a secret weapon if all else fails though, one of which is quite silly but really works for me. I always, ALWAYS make sure to find at least ONE thing I dislike about a drug. For example, with weed: I don't like the anxiety it gives me /or/ the weight I gain (I very much like to stay fit and healthy). Alcohol: I don't like throwing up nor do I like the depression I sometimes feel afterward. Bad examples.. But I can't think right now, Im sure you get the gist and can think of your own better ones. I then start to obsess over that certain thing that I don't like about that drug and eventually don't care much for the drug anymore. So far it has worked quite well, even with smoking cigarettes. Haha, my example was a bit shit and I didn't explain that very well, but it seems to be working for me.

I definitely do. Hell yeah, I love to see more people like that.. Some smart coke users up in this thread, dayyumm. Wish I knew more people like you. On a serious note though, I really do respect drug users like you. So, many props.



EDIT: On a more frustrating note though, really.. How do I stop. They are baby lines, but still. I wish for them to stop making their damned merry way up my nose. Godfuck. 2pm needs to come faster.

 

[Hardcoreprawn]

Sorry, research chemicals (RC) ... hmm if you werent aware Im kind of regretting mentioning it :/

I like your tactic If it works, stick with it. willpower is so important in this world!

btw, I dont use cocaine. I have many years ago but I havent had any in approx 11-12 years. I just came across your thread haphazardly.

 

[buriedlies]

Ah, that's what I thought it stood for. Don't know much about 'em and Im fine keeping it that way.

Exactly, exactly.

Oh, haha I was just kidding with that last line. I just meant drug users in general. Well, thank you for coming across my thread and for all the help. Once again, overly appreciated.

 

[Hardcoreprawn]

Lol, no need to thank We're all nosy buggers here really!

 

[muvolution]

Only you can decide what is too much, and if you crossed your own line, I would suggest you back off for a while, if only so that you can thoroughly enjoy it with a clean conscience next time you do it.

Also, do you know about the massive contamination of the worldwide cocaine supply with Levamisole, a veterinary de-worming agent? Over 70% of the cocaine in the united states is adulterated with Levamisole, and it is put there BEFORE it leaves Colombia/ Peru/ Bolivia. Additionally, Levamizole appears as fishscale (high quality coke) and cannot be separated out by any known methods of purifying cocaine. It will pass a melting-point test, it will rock up, it will stay in solution after an acetone wash.

Simply put, there is no safe way to use this adulterated cocaine, and the problem is WORLDWIDE. I will dig up some links for you.

 

[buriedlies]

Ah, yes. Sadly, I am very much aware and educated on that matter. It is quite scary. I actually had a scare with that too.. I have a slight rash looking "stretch" mark thing on my right boob. This is sort of scaring me a bit. I don't know if it is due to levamisole or not, but I am definitely not going to do any more coke for a long, long time after this batch is done. My friend and I agreed. Thank you for the concern and the willingness to educate others about this.

I read that levamisole leaves your system in 10 days though. So hopefully my waiting a month or longer to do coke again is keeping me safe. I could be completely wrong about the 10 day thing though. Or maybe Im interpreting it wrong. Idk. Shit's scary.

Haha, no one has answered me about how to stop doing lines until my friend gets off work by the way!

Also, are pictures of drugs allowed on this forum?

 

[muvolution]

pictures of drugs are allowed, but can be very incriminating, so decide wisely. There is 0 chance that anyone can tell you anything about your coke from a picture of it, though.

btw, stay tuned to bluelight and dance-safe since there is a test kit similar to the MDMA one being developed for levamisole in coke.

if you need to stop doing lines, get away from your coke, go out, go to a friends, anything.

 

[Oxide]

Excellent points made by muvolution here. Levamisole is enough for me to shy away from cocaine altogether.

In my opinion, the "line" you referred to is all too easy to cross. If you are starting to question your motivations and reasons for using cocaine, the red flags are already up and waving. The 'fiendish' or 'more' nature of cocaine makes it a real bitch to leave alone especially if you have it laying around.

So, to answer your question, just because you aren't snorting several grams per night doesn't mean you shouldn't already be concerned. Cocaine can be extremely seductive and usually by the time you actually realize there is a problem it's already too late.

The best way to stop doing lines of cocaine is to not have anymore cocaine around.

(link is to Levamisole FAQ)

 

[buriedlies]

Im getting all re-worried now and would like some feedback. I've seemed to have gotten a rash-like mark on my right boob.

Basically just looks exactly like a stretch mark. It happened following my last coke use about a month ago. Still has not gone away.

Would you say that is levamisole related? Should I be worried? I haven't had any other odd symptoms besides that.

 

[muvolution]

Did someone slap your boob?

Levamisole inhibits healing and lets infection reign free, so even if levamisole didn't cause it, it could be exacerbating the issue, but I can't say for sure, and I'm no doctor. Perhaps consult Dr. Dre or Dr. Pepper? Seriously, though, see a doctor if you are worried.

btw, we have a nudie thread in The Lounge if that's your thing - you can access it in 11 more posts.

 

[buriedlies]

I also strongly yet again agree, more the reason for me to stop doing cocaine. Which is what I had planned to do after NYE / after this batch is gone.

It is very, very, VERY easy to cross that line. You are certainly right. I do not, however, think it is impossible to maintain a "healthy" relationship with cocaine. In other words, I do think it very much possible to be able to stay at a safe distance from your warning point. I definitely heed your warnings though, and do not doubt the extreme danger of cocaine use.

You are correct though. Which is why I am obeying my red flag and throwing in the white one for a very long time.

usually by the time you actually realize there is a problem it's already too late.

Wise words. Taking that to heart.

 

[buriedlies]

No, they did not slap my boob. That's why I am worried. You should know, seeing as you know so much about levamisole. Skin rashes are a frequent symptom.

No, nudity is not my thing, though I don't really care either way. I was merely afraid and hoping you could shed some light. Apparently not, but if you wish to be a sarcastic asshole that's fine by me.

And sorry for the double post. I removed the picture by the way, in case I offended you in any way. It didn't seem to help anyway.

Thank you, though, muvolution. Oxide, too. You have def helped. Opened my eyes, which is what I needed. Though, Im confident I will stay below my line. It is always good to get reminded of reality. Like I said, I am confident about stopping for until my 21st birthday at least. Or do you recommend longer? I'll see how I am by then, I suppose.

Great choices for mods.

 

[Oxide]

Oh, don't mind muvolution. That's his way of welcoming you to Other Drugs.

 

[muvolution]

sorry if I came off as sarcastic. I like to have a little fun while I mod the site also - never meant to be at anyone's expense.

The other things I can think that would have caused that are too tight of a bra, or doing something while on coke that you didn't realize. Obviously, levamisole will exacerbate any injury, so I would suggest a visit to the doctor if it doesn't clear up soon.

also, welcome to Bluelight and more specifically to Other Drugs. If you ever want to just drop in and shoot the shit with other knowledgable drug users, check out the Other Drugs Social at the top of the Other Drugs forum.

edit: god damnit, Oxide. That's it. I'm de-modding the next person who ninja's me.