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when is the right age to have a talk with a younger sibling about drugs/drinking?

nancy145

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I'm 15 years old now, and have a 12 year old sister. She seems way too young to me to start doing drugs and drinking and all, but some of my friends started as early as 10 or 11. I don't think she does/would do anything like that, but doesn't pretty much everyone think that about their kid or younger sibling? I don't want her starting on drugs for at least another 2 years, but if she does start i wanna be there as an older, more experienced person to talk to or go to for help if she ever needs any. i also wanna be able to cover up or take the blame for her if she ever gets in trouble with it. I'd wanna introduce her to harm reduction too. I know she knows i do, or at least used to, smoke cigs and drink, and I'm pretty sure she knows about weed, but nothing else. I'm not gonna tell her about anything else unless i find out she does drugs, but i mean since she already knows about drinking and probably weed i don't think it would be a huge problem if i mention it to her. When do you guys think i should talk to her about all of this?
 
Dude, you're too young to be *doing* drugs yourself, let alone teaching her about it. Even if you yourself are intelligent, rational, sensibile and careful, your brain is still developing. When I say that, I don't mean you shouldn't do drugs because you don't have the maturity or the intelligence or that you're not emotionally stable enough or whatever - it's completely possible that you very well might be completely ready mentally in every respect to be able to handle drugs and what they do to you. However, during adolescence, when the brain is still developing, drugs can harm you in ways they would not harm an adult.

I don't know if you're smart enough to grasp this concept properly so I'm really trying to simplify it for you so you get it because it is important that you know this if you're already using drugs - drugs are not good for the brain. Some drugs are particularly bad for the brain in that they can actually alter the brains structure and in extreme cases kill brain cells. We call any damage to the brain "neurotoxicity"> Neurotoxicity is very, very bad. Damage to your organs is another effect of some drugs, obviously, but unless we're taking practically letahl doses of certain drugs then it's not one that we need to be *too* concerned about, because any damage will not manifest itself until a few decades down the line. Neurotoxicity is not like that. If you use drugs at your age it's honestly completely & entirely possible for your brain to sustain structural damage literally whilst you take that drug and for the cumulative effect to begin manifesting in your behaviour in under six months.

By "brain damage" I am not talking about dramatic differences like losing the power of speech and drooling all over yourself all day struggling to feed yourself or something, I'm talking about subtle differences in your personality, behaviour and emotions. It could manifest itself as you getting slightly slower over a long period of time so that you don't notice the effects, until all of a sudden you're looking back at you when yourself and thinking about how you used to be so much smarter, learn faster, read faster, was wittier in conversation. Have you not met any "burnouts" yet in your drug use? There are plenty of them around, and I'd wager you'd be shocked at how they turned out if you could compare them to how they were ten years previously - I've seen it happen to people myself. You could slowly lose your motivation and drive, sleeping more, procrastinating more, until you find that you don't do *anything* with your life because all your get up & go has got up and gone, until you're looking back and thinking about how motivated, energetic and productive you used to be. You could start noticing your mood has started to dip a little bit and you write it off as just having a bad week or month, and it gets worse & worse & worse until all the joy has been drained out of your life, you find that you enjoy NOTHING, your internal monologue has become a permanent stream of self-criticism, you feel extremely sad and empty and contemplate suicide, and you look back on how happy and healthy you used to be. You could start finding yourself a little more uneasy in social situations, just a tad, and then you find yourself with your eyes down on the ground a lot more than you used to when you're walking along, when you're heading to a party or just a gathering you find yourself getting really nervous and edgy, and before you know it you're an anxious mess, looking back at how confident you used to be.

These are just a few examples of the *kind* of damage I'm talking about when I mention neurotoxicity - it won't start dramatically, it'll be so subtle you hardly even notice it till there's a real problem. All of this is a very, very real possibility when you start using drugs at your age. You might wonder why you can't safely use drugs but a 19 year old can, and thats simply because drugs have different impacts on the developing brain. It is a well established fact and is widely accepted among scientists that even weed, just weed, has a neurotoxic effect on the brain when taken in adolescence, something that does not happen in the brains of adults. A quick search here on Bluelight will show countless threads - asking for help, asking for guidance even some just warning people - made by people who very much regret their adolescent drug use, as they are now mentally ill or they even just feel very "changed" - slower, or anxious, or depressed, totally lacking in motivation and energy etc.

I hope that you have actually read this. I don't know how smart you are, so I have no idea if you've fully grasped what I'm trying to tell you or if it's gone over your head. I guess in terms of your sister it depends on what exactly you're planning on telling her?
 
I don't want her doing drugs, but i know that it is a very real possibility she might and i want to be there for her if she ever needs an older, more experienced person to talk to or get help from that she won't have to worry will go to my parents or the police. What if she's doing drugs with her friends and then realizes she doesn't have a way to get home? She could call me and i could get someone to give her a ride, instead of her stumbling home alone in public and getting arrested. What if she doesn't know how bad a drug actually is for her? most people around here think that oxycodone is about as dangerous as weed. I could tell her how bad it actually is. what if she has some kind of emotional problem related to drugs? I could talk to her and be there as someone who'll listen and really understand. I used to have severe(for my age) drinking problems, and I never had anyone to talk to about it who really unserstands. I just wanna tell her that if she does ever do anything like that I'm there for her and she can always talk to me about anything drug related and if she neeeds help I'll help her, and I'll never go to my parents about it.
 
if you give her a talk about drugs you will just entice her towards using. Best to leave it be until she actually gets there.
 
depends on the kid. i'm regularly surprised by the comprehension of my 4 year old. don't underestimate young ones.
 
if you give her a talk about drugs you will just entice her towards using. Best to leave it be until she actually gets there.

My dad showed me this stuff from the garage once when he thought I was becoming too interested in burning shit or whatever, thought he'd preempt me by showing how dangerous this stuff was. All he did was make me go "Wow that shit is fucking ace!" and subsequently resulting in me stealing it to use on my own. Sodium chlorate and a few matches can bring endless entertainment.. throw in a bit of sugar and you've got an epic smokebomb :D

Anyway, I think the best thing you can do is steer her away from it.. as in "fuck that shit, it will mess you up". Don't be "educating" her.. she is way too young to think in those terms and will get suckered in by the fun/pleasure factor.. so don't even bother "educating". Even then I wouldn't even touch the topic unless she brought it up first or if it became clear that she had started smoking/using something.

Sometimes it's better to not say anything at all. It's times like this why I now maintain my stance that drugs shouldn't be legalized and why adults fucking suck at life.. children don't need this shit in their lives.. let them keep their innocence for as long as possible.
 
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