Benzos What will my withdrawal be like if any?

[kanyeknievel]

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So about a year ago in October of 09' i got a panic attack on weed somehow, even tho i smoked sooooooooo much. I got depersonalization, and I didn't know what to do so i was panicy and worrying and stuff. I wanted them so I could go thru my days easier without thinking about it or worrying about it.

I was started on .5 twice daily ABOUT a year ago. I used to be so different and think i NEEDED it. Which I didn't. I would take one in the morning then one later in the day, even a few hours later if i was going out because I felt i needed to.

I went through a lot and realised a lot and I found out that basically....im pretty much placeboing myself, Im sure it works somewhat. But not as much as i think.


SO i still have DP, i wanted to take kpin just until it went away. But I also realised, if I cant deal with my anxiety by myself, I wont be as strong. So I wanted to take less and less. So everntually in the past 4 months id say I went from 1 .5 in the morning then one .5 at night. Then I went to .5 in the morning to nothing at all at night. Realising I dont need it, i didnt need it.

So I want to start to take .25 just in the morning and get to 0. When should i start doing this? I know once i start doing it, i will want the other half but after a week (just like with the one at night), i will be used to it and not think about needing the other half.

I just want to get off them I just don't know if I willl have withdrawal? Is 1mg-.5mg every day a year enough to give me this?

Id rather just use them recreationally, bad i know, but anyways can someone help me out here? Should I start taking .25 yet? Or should I wait, or should I do .25 one day then .5 the next then after a week or so, go down to .25?

Once I DO get off of it, I plan to get it still incase of the reason i feel i really to need relax and shit. Help :D

 

[amapola]

What is DP? Also what drug are you tapering off of? I know you mentioned clonazepam but it was only in passing so I'm not really sure though the dosage amounts make it likely.

When tapering like this it's all about what you think you can do. If you've been on .5 for a while now then feel free to try cutting down to .25 a day and see how you feel. You won't suddenly go into crazy withdrawal and if it feels like it's too much you can always redose and taper more gradually.

Good Luck.

 

[fredPA]

I think DP=depersonalization he mentioned in his first paragraph, Im not even sure what that means, but I wanna wish you luck getting free of the benzos. I watched a good friend of mine that ending up dying(not from benzo w/d, he OD'd on fentanyl) go thru some wicked w/d's from his xanax use. He was a true benzo freak, he use to eat 3 or 4, forget he took them, take 3 or 4 more, and so on. He used to get 60 count 1mg footballs per month and be out 4-5 days later. The scariest thing I saw was what he described to me as "brain zaps", they looked like a mild seizure to me, he said his mind would just stop and then he'd come out of it couple minutes later and not remember a thing that happened over the 5 minutes before.

From the size of your dose, I dont think you will go through anything like that but you gotta be careful with coming off benzos and you should do it under doctor supervision, it is wicked. Hope you succeed man!

 

[kanyeknievel]

I think DP=depersonalization he mentioned in his first paragraph, Im not even sure what that means, but I wanna wish you luck getting free of the benzos. I watched a good friend of mine that ending up dying(not from benzo w/d, he OD'd on fentanyl) go thru some wicked w/d's from his xanax use. He was a true benzo freak, he use to eat 3 or 4, forget he took them, take 3 or 4 more, and so on. He used to get 60 count 1mg footballs per month and be out 4-5 days later. The scariest thing I saw was what he described to me as "brain zaps", they looked like a mild seizure to me, he said his mind would just stop and then he'd come out of it couple minutes later and not remember a thing that happened over the 5 minutes before.

From the size of your dose, I dont think you will go through anything like that but you gotta be careful with coming off benzos and you should do it under doctor supervision, it is wicked. Hope you succeed man!

DP look into it. Its basically like ego death. u dont have like connection from u and ur like self. hard to describe but yeaah i got a bunch of shit wrong wit me from drug use im sure. so im done with that.

I take benzos recreationally only to smoke cuz i usually panic or dont enjoy it if i dont cuz of the DP. So i dont wanna tell my doctor cuz i want him to keep my doses so i can have a bunch extra if i need them or wanna take them. but 1.0 to .5 wasnt bad.

just not sure how or when to go to .25. its clonzapem i am on now but i take xanax and kpins recreationally a decent amount when i can get them and i smoke n get couuchlocked as shit

 

[fredPA]

All I can offer in advice is find a good taper schedule and stick to it, you are probably gonna need to do a water titration type thing when you get down to crumbs of pills so you can be accurate on dosage. I'd imagine you would have to stop taking them recreationally until after you finish your taper obviously. Like I said good luck, it's good you are trying to nip this thing up before your habit gets heavy. These drugs aren't meant to be taken on the regular in my opinion for most citizens, like my wife gets 30 count of clonazepam and her doc expects that to last her at least 6 months. But some folks absolutely need them all the time

 

[kanyeknievel]

Thanks for the comments. But I wanna know is it too soon to go to .25, i been doing the .5 only in the morning and no more for about 2 months id say, almost 3. i think. And when i DO go to .25 how long should I stay on .25 until I cut it in half again?

 

[BrokedownPalace]

There no right or wrong answer when it comes to tapering. It would most definitely be safe to drop your dose down to .25 daily, now. I would try it. Give yourself a few days to a week to adjust, and if it is too unbearable (which I doubt) you can go back up. Tapering is all about what is comfortable for you. What works for me may not work for you, and vice-versa. Just go for it, and see how you feel. Once you drop to .25 I would stay on that for a couple of weeks at least, and then jump off.

Withdrawing even from .5mg per day shouldn't be too bad. Definitely not seizure territory. I have gone through benzo withdrawal a number of times, cold turkey from doses as high as 3-5mg daily. In your case I would worry most about some rebound anxiety, mental cravings, and some minor physical symptoms. Nothing too major, though.

Look up The Ashton Manual on google, it is a very good guide to tapering benzos. I can help you find the info if you like, just tonight I am feeling real crappy. But tomorrow if you need help feel free to PM me.

 

[kanyeknievel]

There no right or wrong answer when it comes to tapering. It would most definitely be safe to drop your dose down to .25 daily, now. I would try it. Give yourself a few days to a week to adjust, and if it is too unbearable (which I doubt) you can go back up. Tapering is all about what is comfortable for you. What works for me may not work for you, and vice-versa. Just go for it, and see how you feel. Once you drop to .25 I would stay on that for a couple of weeks at least, and then jump off.

Withdrawing even from .5mg per day shouldn't be too bad. Definitely not seizure territory. I have gone through benzo withdrawal a number of times, cold turkey from doses as high as 3-5mg daily. In your case I would worry most about some rebound anxiety, mental cravings, and some minor physical symptoms. Nothing too major, though.

Look up The Ashton Manual on google, it is a very good guide to tapering benzos. I can help you find the info if you like, just tonight I am feeling real crappy. But tomorrow if you need help feel free to PM me.

Thanks man that helps a lot. Im not worried so much since its not a lot and not for a long time. BUT Im just worried a bit about me feeling detached from myself more. I dont know how much the klonopin actually helps but i was able to go from 1mg to .5 and i feel a lot better than I used to. Could be cause I learned anxiety is al in ur head basically. But yeah im just worried about the anxiety i might have, as well as the detached feeling.

Also, I don't think insomnia wil be any type of problem cuz these dont make me sleep or tired , which is weird i think

 

[kanyeknievel]

Oh my god. I woke up today and told myself I wont take any klonopin until after school. Such a bad decision, very bad. I didn't sleep well, even though my doctor put me on trazodone, i think I want to stop taking that. I also have been taking that for almost a month now, along with st johns wort everyday and i forgot your not suppose to take anti-depressants with that.

So i think im going to stop the trazodone, but Idk.... but today was hell. I woke up and was okay, more detached and anxious as usual. but that was expected. But in school i was trying so hard to just pay attention and get through my classes and do the work I needed to do. When I got out i was talking to mself telling myself ill be fine and wont die. I knew that but I wasn't ready for the depression and anxiety that came next.

I put a song that usually makes me optimistic and think better, sort've like a meditation song. And i just became so sad and upset, I texted my whole family. My brothers while just about to cry, and i never felt like that before in that longest time and if i did I had a reason. But i texted my parents and my brothers and said i love them and some other stuff. So i finally got home and I took .25 and i was a lot better after about 15 minutes and now im okay.

But I think im going to stop with the trazadone and do this tapering a lot more carfully so I dont withdrawal and go into what i did.

After what i went through, it seemed like hell, i feel better now but still not great or anything. Does anyone have some better advice to taper down? I want to find a GOOD physciatrist, but i dont know how, so i can JUST find the best way to taper down, possibly switch to valium? I dont want to go to my doctor cause he isnt specialized in all of this.

 

[Voxide]

DP look into it. Its basically like ego death. u dont have like connection from u and ur like self.

Pretty much. Very frightening while it's happening, but very cool to think about in retrospect. At least in my opinion. You practically feel like you're a God who's simply on the outside looking in at the rest of the world. Watching over everything.

 

[kanyeknievel]

Pretty much. Very frightening while it's happening, but very cool to think about in retrospect. At least in my opinion. You practically feel like you're a God who's simply on the outside looking in at the rest of the world. Watching over everything.

If only it was that awesome feeling while you have it haha

 

[chompy]

seems like you did a good taper if you dont "need" them every day. I'd keep the recreational use even tho it can easily be justified to be a therapeutic dose down to a minimum.

I struggle with benzos myself.

 

[kanyeknievel]

seems like you did a good taper if you dont "need" them every day. I'd keep the recreational use even tho it can easily be justified to be a therapeutic dose down to a minimum.

I struggle with benzos myself.

I was able to taper to .5 well, but when I didnt take it this morning it was terrible. I think it was a reaction of that with this anti-depressant i was prescribed for sleep that Im going to stop taking, cause i like st johns wort better and both of those together, with no klonopin and sleep i was a fucking wreck. So bad. But im going to start with take 3 quarters of a .5 for about two weeks at the most then go down to .25 for two weeks or 3 then 1 quarter for a few weeks then every other day take it for a few weeks then stop. So hopefully within two months ill be off, sooner if I can handle it .

Within the time period, do you guys think I should stick with my taper schedule with kpins, or go to a phsyc JUST to get off of them and have him maybe switch me to something else to taper? I want to keep getting the kpins for recreational use so I dont want to ask my doctor, plus he wouldnt know more than a phsyc would with tapering I dont think.

 

[CitioKid]

I had that DP shit for two years - it sucked. Like you, I smoked some weed and it came on strong and fierce - 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

That was back when I was 16 and 17.

Luckily it went away, and I haven't felt any DP whatsoever in years.

Just letting you know, it goes away.

 

[chompy]

i forgot where i read this but its best to eliminate clonazepam by .125mg intervals when tapering.

you have .5mg pills which are perfectly suited in your case for tapering. if you're taking .5mg klonopin once a day and in the morning, i would switch to taking .25 in the morning and .25 at night, using 1 pill to taper yourself off as klonopin has a pretty long half life.

Get a piill cutter or a razor blade and cut those pills up and put them in a weekly pill holder. you'll have your .5mgs, .25mgs and .125mgs ready to go.

I just tapered off an 8mg habit myself and use .5mg doses when I need to. Theres the occasional binge that i regret tho.

 

[kanyeknievel]

I had that DP shit for two years - it sucked. Like you, I smoked some weed and it came on strong and fierce - 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

That was back when I was 16 and 17.

Luckily it went away, and I haven't felt any DP whatsoever in years.

Just letting you know, it goes away.

Thank you Chompy.

Also thank you Citiokid for the hope. My phsyc teacher suprisingly had the same exact thing when i talked to him about it. he smoked a shit ton at the same age, lasted a few years he said n shit. u didnt take any medication or anything did you citio? Just wondering what worked for you. Therapy, distraction, business are what help and have been helping me. i just want to get off medication, i feel thats what i need to do

 

[DelilahHeartly]

Your anxiety/panic attacks is a chemical imbalance within your system. The medication is used to balance it out and get rid of that horrid feeling, hence, getting your body back to what would be considered normal.

It is very hard to deal with them without medication. Benzo withdrawals have to be the worst... Trust me, I know.... :/ I've lost a lot of friends from withdrawals. And don't ever drink with them either.... Trailing off, my apologizes, anywho...

But when putting your ENTIRE head to it, it can be done through mind over matter. Although, it will take a lot of work and pain.

I've had anxiety/panic attacks my entire life, and I've been taking kolonopins for about five years now. They do help tremendously. They take away the feeling of everything being wrong, when nothing is wrong; feeling like the world is closing in on you, and your chest is being crushed by a thousand pound bag of bricks.

If you have the patience, potential, and gut to be able to keep off of them and deal with this yourself, then I applaud you and say go for it. But remember: Mind over Matter. And it will be tough. Good luck though.

 

[kanyeknievel]

Your anxiety/panic attacks is a chemical imbalance within your system. The medication is used to balance it out and get rid of that horrid feeling, hence, getting your body back to what would be considered normal.

It is very hard to deal with them without medication. Benzo withdrawals have to be the worst... Trust me, I know.... :/ I've lost a lot of friends from withdrawals. And don't ever drink with them either.... Trailing off, my apologizes, anywho...

But when putting your ENTIRE head to it, it can be done through mind over matter. Although, it will take a lot of work and pain.

I've had anxiety/panic attacks my entire life, and I've been taking kolonopins for about five years now. They do help tremendously. They take away the feeling of everything being wrong, when nothing is wrong; feeling like the world is closing in on you, and your chest is being crushed by a thousand pound bag of bricks.

If you have the patience, potential, and gut to be able to keep off of them and deal with this yourself, then I applaud you and say go for it. But remember: Mind over Matter. And it will be tough. Good luck though.

I don't think there is a chemical imbalance that causes anxiety/panic. I believe that is all yourself empowering the panic and anxiety. I mean once u start taking benzos, though, when u stop it makes u feel like u needed it, but u really don't. I hope the best with you, five years is a lot. Look into anxiety, maybe you can teach yourself to deal with your own anxiety.
I could be wrong about anxiety not being an inbalance, but either way... Ive only been on kpins for a year and not ever over 1mg a day so it wont be so hard for me. Just the DP is the worst part, but I will overcome and be stronger when I can go without

 

[hotelyorba]

You should probably think about withdrawing slower then that. I was on klonopin for about a year and it took me 5 months to taper. The whole thing sucked, but it got better the lower I got. Here is my taper schedule actually:

1/2/10-Trying to make the switch to valium from .6 klonopin. Taking about .375 mg klonopin and 5mg valium.
1/10/10-.3125 mg klonopin, 5 mg valium
1/18/10-.25mg klonopin, 5 mg valium
1/24/10-.1875 klonopin, 5 mg valium
1/31/10-.125 klonopin, 5 mg valium
2/14/10-.0625 klonopin, 5 mg valium
2/23/10- Klonopiss DONE, 5 mg valium
3/1/10- 4.5 mg valium
3/8/10- 4.0 mg valium
3/21/10-3.5 mg valium
3/30/10- 3.0 mg valium
4/6/10- 2.5 mg valium
4/13/10-2.0 mg valium
4/29/10-1.5 mg valium
5/10/10-1.0 mg valium
5/16/10-.5 mg valium

5/23/10--BENZO FREE!!!

I was taking .6 klonopin, meaning a .5 pill and I would take a little shriver off another .5 pill everyday. Thats why it looks a little confusing. But you might want to consider switching to valium or at least half of the dose to valium, as it is easier to taper from.
.5 klonopin = 10 mg valium

I joined a support forum. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to other forums here on bluelight so I wont, but its called BenzoBuddies (you can google it). Its a forum of experienced benzo users dedicated to helping people get off benzos.

 

[kanyeknievel]

You should probably think about withdrawing slower then that. I was on klonopin for about a year and it took me 5 months to taper. The whole thing sucked, but it got better the lower I got. Here is my taper schedule actually:

1/2/10-Trying to make the switch to valium from .6 klonopin. Taking about .375 mg klonopin and 5mg valium.
1/10/10-.3125 mg klonopin, 5 mg valium
1/18/10-.25mg klonopin, 5 mg valium
1/24/10-.1875 klonopin, 5 mg valium
1/31/10-.125 klonopin, 5 mg valium
2/14/10-.0625 klonopin, 5 mg valium
2/23/10- Klonopiss DONE, 5 mg valium
3/1/10- 4.5 mg valium
3/8/10- 4.0 mg valium
3/21/10-3.5 mg valium
3/30/10- 3.0 mg valium
4/6/10- 2.5 mg valium
4/13/10-2.0 mg valium
4/29/10-1.5 mg valium
5/10/10-1.0 mg valium
5/16/10-.5 mg valium

5/23/10--BENZO FREE!!!

I was taking .6 klonopin, meaning a .5 pill and I would take a little shriver off another .5 pill everyday. Thats why it looks a little confusing. But you might want to consider switching to valium or at least half of the dose to valium, as it is easier to taper from.
.5 klonopin = 10 mg valium

I joined a support forum. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to other forums here on bluelight so I wont, but its called BenzoBuddies (you can google it). Its a forum of experienced benzo users dedicated to helping people get off benzos.

i have to find a good psych to do this then cause i cant tell my GP cuz then he will know ive been lying to him for the past few months for more kpins cuz he prescribes me 90 .5mg a month and i only take 30. so i need to find a psych soon that wont just prescribe me a bunch a shit and listen to me and help me get off of them