What went wrong? (1st experience GREAT! 2nd OUCH!)

[justinellis]

So I tried "X" for the first time ever last Saturday night, early Sunday morning. Three of us all took one of these pills at the exact same time. They are called Pink Heart's and they are cut out in exactly the same shape as a heart. My friends were rolling and I was still completely the same. Not until four hours later when I smoked some marijuana did I feel the effects of it.

As soon as I was high off the marijuana I was immediately feeling the impact of ecstasy. It was such an amazing feeling to me. It lasted for quite some time too. So I decided that I was going to do it again. This time I took another one of these pills on Wednesday night, I was very well hydrated, same exact pill, same exact people, I might not have had the best day of days I did have a fight with my significant other prior to me dropping the pill, but I had what I consider to be a very very bad experience. My heart felt like it was beating out of my chest, I couldn't stop dripping sweat, & I just wanted it to end immediately.

The only time I could control the feeling just slightly was when I would lay down on the couch on my side gripping a pillow with my eyes closed and my shirt off. It lasted for about 4 hours, but I didn't really have a comedown I don't think. This was only my second time taking "X". I just want to know what went wrong? Could it be that I didn't wait long enough to do it again? Was I over-hydrated? Did fighting with my girl earlier in the day impact my experience?

I just don't understand how the same pill could make me feel so amazing one day and the make me feel like I never want to do any other drug ever again the next time I try it. Can someone please give me some insight? Also what are the procedures you should take if you are having a bad experience? Should you take a shower? Eat some food? What should you do? Once again I thank you for your time and consideration in regards to any of my posts and inquiries.

 

[matt2012]

Set and setting issue IMO...Did you test your pills? not too much of a concer seeing that you had a goo time the forst time out. Sounds like maybe the pills are a bit speedy but all in all I would lean towards a set and setting issue.

first time you took the pills and didn't feel anything until you toked up...set and setting because you were so focused on what it was going to be like that you were accutally missing the experince...smoked some bud and it relaxed you and wham!!

Nest time...by yourself, fight with sis = not so good experience.

your mind set at the time and the location you eat the pills can sometimes have alot to do with the quality of the experience. since you are new to MDMA please have a read through the directory. it will answer alot of questions you might have.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=301696

 

[K-Dazed]

Couple things wrong here.

First off, you should buy a testing kit and test your pills, or, atleast go to pillreports.com and try and see what your pills may contain. Surely, part of the reason why you don't know why the first time was so good, but the second time so bad was because, well, you didn't know what was in your pills?

Second, we don't do pill ID in ED. There's too many variables, and no body knows whats in your pills other than the person who made them, and potentially the dealer. You could have know what substances it contained, if you had a testing kit.

Third, please, please, please don't roll so often. You need to take atleast a 1 month break in between rolls. You're fine now, but later in life if you keep this trend up, you may have reversable brain damage and be depressed. Then, it won't seem like such a good idea.

The MDMA experience isn't all about the drug - many other things effect it. I like to think of MDMA as a mood-enhancer type of drug. It won't fix your problems, and it won't make you feel awesome when you're depressed, but it can make an awesome time even awesomer. This is why friends, a good enviroment and good music always help out the MDMA experience, because it's not so much about the drug, but the mood surrounding the drug.

 

[undergrounddlz]

Wow talk about adverse reactions. If it was my guess I would attribute your 2nd experience to not properly spacing your rolls out, the argument with your sis may have had something to do with it, but your body was not in a recovered state, with seritonin and dopeamine levels at an already low level of depletion.. Acute serotonin syndrome? Maybe, from the sounds of your symptoms.

As for the 1st experience, needing marijuana to feel the effects, that really surprises me, I have never heard of anything like that. Maybe like others said, your mind was just so focused on other things.. Mdma is a hardware alteration!! Wow..

I think you need to do much more research on mdma if you plan on using again in the future, and one of the most important things to remember that can't be stressed enough is space out your rolls.. I thought I would be ok spacing out 2 weeks, this lasted about 8 months before I burned myself out bad, just warning you.. It may seem like fun and ok in the short term like "it wont happen to me," but it will come back around and you will find yourself with regret. Research pre-loaders, I prefer vitamin C & E, magnesium is nice too.. A couple of my favorite recoverables with regards to seritonin and dopeamine regeneration would include L-Tyrosine for dopeamine, L-tryptophan for seritonin..

Do your research & be safe..

 

[No Consequence]

"Not until four hours later when I smoked some marijuana did I feel the effects of it."
Not even an MDMA abuser will take 4 hours to feel the effects of a pill. The pill would be almost done with it's effects after 4 hours. My guess is that you had pipes and it didnt really affect you much at first cuz it was just one, and when you smoked you just got really high and it stopped you from having adverse affects.
A great pill is not going to be good one time and then make you wanna die (exagerating) the next time you use. Even if you didnt space out your rolls.
And an event such as a fight will not affect your roll that heavily. You could have crashed your car, failed an exam, broken up with your girl, and much more in the same night and a great MDMA pill is not gonna make you have that sort of experience..

 

[sheepie]

i think it was either pipes or speed