What was it like when you first discovered you were physically addicted to opiates?

Addicted... Or Dependent?

I suffer from chronic back pain due to a slew of lumbar issues, including degenerative disc disease and degenerative arthritis. I am only 23. I've been on so many pain medications in the past few years while battling these issues, that I feel I could run a pharmacy. It started simply with percocet, and advanced to percocet and morphine, then to percocet, morphine, and fentanyl in the form of a lower dose transdermal patch. Eventually I had worked up to 150 mcgs of fentanyl in patch form which I was changing out every 72 hours. None of these dose increases or medication changes had anything, repeat anything, to do with tolerance, though I'm sure it didn't help. I was simply in that much pain. Having a two year old running around surely was of no help to the situation. I'm sure there are those of you who have tried to change a diaper while your back feels like it's going to splinter like so much rotted wood. Fun experience, and it seems on the worst days, they blow through enough diapers to float a zoo. Then of course there's the physical activity that absolutely has to happen. I got to a point at my most painful where I had to call on family and professional help just to take care of my own child. I cn't put into words how difficult that was, how guilt-ridden I felt, and how miserably depressed I had gotten because of the entire experience. I had basically become a bed-ridden cripple due to the fact that if I moved, I would scream in pain.

Now, the reason I dropped a little back story is simply to give a glimpse at my personal situation before being judged, which - no matter what anyone says - always happens. It's a normal human reaction. Anyways, about 18 months ago, I had a night where I ran out of medication and my neurosurgeon AND pain management specialist were both unavailable that evening, even though they are both usually on call a couple times a week. I suffered what I thought must be the onset of my death and thus my plunge into hell. I went through the worst withdrawal ever. Oh, and I forgot to mention at the time, I had been placed on opana. As anyone who has taken it can tell you, it's the damn devil. I was withdrawing from percocet and opana, the meds I had run out of and couldn't get filled for three days when one of my doctors would become available. I thought I was going to die. I hallucinated. I vomited. I camped out on the bathroom floor just so I could make it to the toilet. I tried to sleep, and even with valium and ambien in my system (I was desperate), I was a total insomniac. I tried to sip a bit of clear broth, and couldn't stand the taste of it. That or any other food after I stopped throwing up. It's like I could taste the chemicals in it or something. My body sweat so much I lost ten pounds between that and expelling fluid in multiple ways overnight. The sweat was a disgusting smell, and I was just ill. I couldn't move my body for the aches, the pain, the brutal lead weights that felt tied to every part of my body. I swear to God, I didn't sleep but three hours in three days. I became hyper-vigilant, nervous, restless, and numb. I say again, I thought it was the end, that these damn drugs and the end result of me not having them in my system was going to be the death of me.

Obviously I made it through. I got my meds from both doctors (don't ask me why at that time the two of them hadn't just consolidated their efforts and handed the ball off to one or the other). I took my doses and felt like I had drifted into heavenly bliss. About five minutes into enjoying the high, I had a startling revelation...... I was hooked on them. On all of them. I burst into tears. Never in my entire life had I been addicted to anything. I never believed it could happen to me. I was instantly humbled and broken right there, before God and everyone in the middle of my living room. That was my first experience with withdrawal and my realization that pain meds had become my vice.

Now that I'm a little older, a little wiser, and have been walking this path of chronic pain for a while, I have a much better view of both my body and the world around me. I am now on only 6 percocet a day, and nothing else. I have lost 30 pounds (and counting), I'm exercising, and guess what? I can change my son's diaper...on the floor...without being in massive pain. I have worked so hard to get to this place, all because of that one instance where I knew I had lost control.

However, I want to ask this question: If an individual suffers from so much chronic pain that they have to invade their bodies with those kinds of pain meds, do they really become addicted? Or is it dependence? I took a good hard, long look at myself in the mirror as I was popping my afternoon dose of pills one day, and made another realization. I was not taking these for the high. I wasn't searching for euphoria. I was simply looking for enough relief to make it possible to get up off the couch and play with my precious son. In that moment, I labeled myself - correctly so in my opinion - dependent. I threw off the old label of "addict" and started some healthy self-talk. So many people who take drugs for recreation purposes (no judgment, just opinion) don't know what it's like to be in true, chronic pain. They enjoy their high, and more power to them if that is their personal life choice. But for those of us who suffer daily, we suffer much more than our own physical pain. We suffer the misunderstanding of others. Doctors most especially. I know I've had doctors I've trusted implicitly tell me point blank they thought I was faking all of it (despite the confirming MRI's and CT's). I've had ER nurses tell me I'm an addict and should "take a closer look at my life". I've had family tell me pain meds are bad, and that they are simply poison in my body. To a degree I believe that, but to not have the support of people you love and trust is devastating when going through pain of any sort. I've had friends give me dirty looks when I took a dose of my scheduled pain meds at a luncheon. It's horrible, and all to be called "addicted". So I wonder... Is it all in our heads, all of us who take pain meds and other sorts of drugs? Even those out there who use illegal drugs. Have you become addicted? Or dependent? Dependency comes from the absolute need for a legitimate reason. You NEED the drugs to keep you functioning properly. Addiction is you WANT the drug so badly to make your body feel good. There's a huge difference in my opinion, and I finally couldn't take it anymore. I had to speak out strongly, and voice my thoughts and feelings, even if no one reads any of this. I hope in some small way I've opened the doors to some different paths of thinking, and encouraged at least one person out there in their journey through pain and drug dependency. Thank you all for the chance to speak my mind, and for not judging. We are all normal human beings here, all looking for support in one form or another, even if it's just someone to listen. Take heart...you are never alone.
 
dependency and addiction......

^^Addiction doesnt just apply to people who use drugs for recreational purposes. Anyone who uses an addicting drug for whatever reason can become an addict. I think you are dependent on the drugs for pain, and addicted to them because they cause physical addiction.

I started using opiates not for pleasure, but for pain as I had 4 wisdom teeth pulled, then had complications with the original oral surgery, and had to have the surgery performed again to remove pieces of bone, so I was on Percodan for 2 straight months then. Later, I pulled a muscle in my mid back in '94, on the job, and I was in excruciating pain for 2 weeks! I took percocets for about a month. Then I have pain return in that same pulled muscle in my back every year, and I've had to take pain meds for that every once in a while, though I dont take opiates anymore... Plus, I had hernia surgery in '99, and got pain meds then too.

However, I didnt become addicted to opiates til I started using them to deal with depression/anxiety and agoraphobia issues. I never used them purely for pleasure. I admit that I certainly enjoyed the feeling from them, but I never used them til I nodded out for instance. Most opioid addicts I've known use enough to get themselves nodding out. I never did that. I only wanted to do enough to rid me of depression that I always felt. I had been "self medicating" for years, but not every day. Then I became addicted, and I continued using to stop the withdraw effects and for the depression.
 
It took me alot of years to get a addiction and i didnt develop a addiction until after i actually needed them for pain. I used to have easy access to opiate pills such as codeine (with APAP or on it's own), demerol, percocet, oxy ir's and oxycontin. But i would only take a few at night and that was that. Id skip days and i didnt get bad cravings for them at all.

I developed chronic pain and eventually managed to get medication for it. It took a long ass time due to opioid phobia with doctors. By this time my moods had gotten worse (i was only diagnosed about bipolar 6 years ago) so it was no wonder i got addicted to drugs that calmed everything down abit. Too bad that they do very little for your mood after youve been on them awile.

Even then it took me a good while to get addicted and i only did after 3 months of heavy oxy use. Once i got put on morphine though i started to really know what dependance and addiction was like. The withdrawals get worse it seems everytime you go through them or atleast thats what im like. I only picked up the needle a little less then a year ago and i started shooting dilaudid and morphine. I knew going in that shooting up was one hell of a way to really get a bad addiction but i did it anyway.

So it was no real surprise or shock to be honest and im surprised it didnt happen sooner.
 
I noticed I had large pupils sans stims, felt sick and had the runs. I then took more opiates and said 'lol oh well'...tramadol, morphine and oxycodone where the substances. (depending on ease of access)

worst WD....in the slammer off fent, benzos and stims all at once in seg/solitary. that almost broke me mentally.
 
I remember in the first 6 months of using I would go home to my parents at christmas, etc and complain about the house being too cold and the beds too uncomfortable to sleep in. I would get through the withdrawals without even really knowing it, then go back to London and get straight back on it. I really can't believe I didn't fully associate them with the heroin! And when I went to India to purposely do a cold turkey kick, I was aware of most of the symptoms and could recognise them as w/d's, but I remember blaming jet lag and it being too hot for why i couldnt sleep, I didn't think it was anything to do with the w/d's for some stupid reason!

All this made it so much easier to kick back then. Ignorance was bliss. Being fully aware of every possible withdrawal symptom I could potentially had made me feel them all when I finally did my last kick!
 
I wanted to add something real quick.

When I first started messing with opiates it was all pills, mostly Norcos, Percocets, Morphine every now and then. I'd do them daily for a month or two but never developed a serious addiction at this time. In hindsight I can see where I had withdrawals but I just took extra xanax or alcohol or something and got through my mild wd's without much trouble.

Pods are what hooked me good, a few mild couple month habits and then a solid almost 2 years of using strong pods twice a day every day. I posted earlier my first experience realizing I was dependent on opiates. The thing is pods at the time were affordable and it was easy to keep a steady supply on hand. Withdrawal didn't bother me because I rarely had to deal with it. So i knew I was addicted but due to easy access to supply it didn't bother me. I mean I had a great morphine buzz every day, what was there to worry about?

Eventually pods got too expensive and the quality went to shit and I ended up dependent on Heroin, that realization was really scary because it was expensive as hell to keep up my habit from day one because I already had a tolerance from the pods. Every day I'd wake up earlier than I'd normally wake up so I didn't miss my chance to score. I was only doing H daily for a few months but I experienced more wd's during that period than any other. I loved the relief that scoring brought me, I loved the adventure but I couldn't keep up that pace, especially when I lost my consistent connections. That period of time was a roller coaster, and led me to subs.

I only used H heavily for a few months, so I know I'm still a novice compared to alot of people here but those H withdrawals were horrible because they came on so quick, scoring was a life and death matter when withdrawals were coming. My habit wasn't huge either I smoked around a gram a day during this period, normally I wouldn't have been able to afford this habit at all but business was good during this time period and I was still able to pay all my bills and what not. I spent thousands of dollars on H in record time. This is another element in realizing you're addicted, trying to figure out how to get that much money EVERY DAY AND NIGHT! I can't imagine living that way for years although I know many people who have. I'm still on subs and I'm all too aware of opiate withdrawal and benzo withdrawal at all times.

So in hindsight it's one thing to realize you're hooked on an opiate you can afford and have regular access to, it's quite another to find yourself with an H habit that you can't afford and when your connections run dry.... well those are some desperate moments.
 
My story sounds alot like some of the others I've read in this thread. Discovered poppy tea. It was really nice, took away my anxiety, RLS and was just an over all enjoyable experience. No bad side effects at all.

I'd only been using for a short time, maybe a month or so when I let myself run out. I had another order on the way, but it didn't seem like a big deal to go without for a couple of days. After all, I'd gone without my whole life up to that point.

So about a day after my last cup, I was at work and realized I was feeling feeling kind of funny. And when I say funny, I mean...bad, damn bad. Agitated, anxious, sick, crampy...etc. I went home about an hour early. I almost never left work early before.
When I got home I decided to take a dip in the pool to refresh myself. Bad idea...As soon as I got in the water , I realized something was REALLY wrong. A huge chill ran through my body and during that time of year, the temps of the air and water were not cold.
It was as if my inner thermostat and been broken and I couldn't regulate my body temperature. I got out of the pool as fast as possible and made a hot bath for myself. It was better for a while, but as soon as I got out of the tub, I was hit with shivering chills again. So I got into bed and bundled up...then I felt so warm, I couldn't stop sweating.
So I'd removed the covers and it was back to chills again. This cycle went back and forth the entire evening.
Also, my once comfortable bed felt like it was made out of stones and covered with sheets of sandpaper.

The next day I called out sick from work:"Yeah, I think I got this bug that's been going around"
Luckily my order soon arrived. You've never seen anyone so happy and relieved to recieve a package in the mail. Well you probably have, but not many others have, I'm sure LOL
I tore that box open, did some grindings, prepared my brew, took a sip and sighed with relief.
That's when I realized, "oops, I think I may have screwed myself over"
 
I cant really put it into words right now, but I was a "chipper" for about 3 years before I ever got addicted, MScontins, dilauladids, ect. I then had a surgery and started taking oxycodone...

Well I was high everyday, having a great time and getting all my work done. I thought to my self "why do people look down on opiates, there great, nothing wrong with them". Then I dont know how this happened, but I decided to see what would happen if I didn't take them.

I got sick and moved I ended up on suboxone, even though I still had pain. Quit that and it was like the same thing all over again..I just remember my legs were thrashing hardcore and I had to shit all the time, I mean what a fucking life.

So the moral of the story is, once you have a real pain problem, your fucked.
 
However, I want to ask this question: If an individual suffers from so much chronic pain that they have to invade their bodies with those kinds of pain meds, do they really become addicted? Or is it dependence? I took a good hard, long look at myself in the mirror as I was popping my afternoon dose of pills one day, and made another realization. I was not taking these for the high. I wasn't searching for euphoria. I was simply looking for enough relief to make it possible to get up off the couch and play with my precious son. In that moment, I labeled myself - correctly so in my opinion - dependent. I threw off the old label of "addict" and started some healthy self-talk. So many people who take drugs for recreation purposes (no judgment, just opinion) don't know what it's like to be in true, chronic pain. They enjoy their high, and more power to them if that is their personal life choice. But for those of us who suffer daily, we suffer much more than our own physical pain. We suffer the misunderstanding of others. Doctors most especially. I know I've had doctors I've trusted implicitly tell me point blank they thought I was faking all of it (despite the confirming MRI's and CT's). I've had ER nurses tell me I'm an addict and should "take a closer look at my life". I've had family tell me pain meds are bad, and that they are simply poison in my body. To a degree I believe that, but to not have the support of people you love and trust is devastating when going through pain of any sort. I've had friends give me dirty looks when I took a dose of my scheduled pain meds at a luncheon. It's horrible, and all to be called "addicted". So I wonder... Is it all in our heads, all of us who take pain meds and other sorts of drugs? Even those out there who use illegal drugs. Have you become addicted? Or dependent? Dependency comes from the absolute need for a legitimate reason. You NEED the drugs to keep you functioning properly. Addiction is you WANT the drug so badly to make your body feel good. There's a huge difference in my opinion, and I finally couldn't take it anymore. I had to speak out strongly, and voice my thoughts and feelings, even if no one reads any of this. I hope in some small way I've opened the doors to some different paths of thinking, and encouraged at least one person out there in their journey through pain and drug dependency. Thank you all for the chance to speak my mind, and for not judging. We are all normal human beings here, all looking for support in one form or another, even if it's just someone to listen. Take heart...you are never alone.

I also suffer from chronic back pain. I have various issues, just like you. I also had surgery and a doctor messed me up.... permanently. I have permanent nerve damage because of him. I am currently 22 years old. You know how much is sucks to not be able to do simple things? I try to hide my pain in every way I can. I hate when people comment that I look like I'm in pain or look like I'm having a hard time walking. You know my only comfort anymore? Taking away my pain.... and getting high. I was very much against drugs... I never even wanted to take a tylenol for an ache. I wouldn't take any drugs before all this happened. I think there are many of us chronic pain suffers that do drugs for the pain relief... and to feel good because sometimes there is nothing else to make us happy.
 
That shit is fucking DEPRESSING man is what it was like. If i look back from the point i am currently in having been using opiates for 7 or so years beginning as most with vicodin percocet and oxycontin and graduating to heroin upon moving to the West Coast (You fellow Californians can back me up on this) black tar heroin is a gosh darn epidemic out here and it was too hard a temptation to avoid.... now 2 years later and still shooting up regardless of having literally NO VEINS...this is a very hard predicament to find yourself in...imagine having a handful of oxycontin and being in with drawl or dope sick and NOT being able to take them....when you can sit around and poke yourself for 2 and a half hours and not get yourself off you will know what I am talking about. Moral of the story is..... get OUT soon get OFF fast or take suboxone or methadone to help yourself with the transition because I am in the most fucked up position right now I would not wish it on my worst enemy. Anyways good luck to everybody currently in the same struggle.

Peace.
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