What to expect on first PCT

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Cashgarden

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I'm finishing up my first test cycle and am wondering what my sex drive will be like on PCT. Right now, I'm on my second week of being on nothing and will start the actual PCT next week. So far, my drive seems normal but I don't want it to be something my significant other will notice. I have noticed my motivation to hit to gym dropped and that has me a little worried. Think next time I might just blast and cruise (I'm around 40 yrs old).

On a side, what's up with guido? I've been on this forum for some time reading and I also posted a little using another handle before changing. I like reading guido's advice. What's up?
 
Guido is having problems with his computer/internet...
Regarding your pct, in theory your sex drive should start getting better when you start taking your clomid and nolva. You may also get depressed (don't) and from what I've heard, people on clomid are sometimes very sensible and emotional.
You'll also lose some water so you will lose weight.
Hope this helps
 
Depression shouldn't be an issue.
some people complain of acne, but this is estrogen related too, I believe.

take an estrogen blocker like nolva and you shouldn't have problems. I personally advocate high dosages of vitamin d3 as well during pct. 20,000 IU.
 
Motivation in the gym and actual endurance goes down. This isn't really a big deal, just take good care of yourself (sleep right, don't drink booze night before a workout, etc) so that you have no excuse not to push yourself to your limit. Your limit is gonna be less than it was 2 weeks ago, though.

Libido was way down. I didn't get any morning wood for like 2 weeks or so. Masturbating was a chore and when it did come out it was all goopy and shit. I'm in my mid 20s, so for you it's probly gonna be worse. I didn't have any issues actually getting it up when the situation called for it, but that was like 4 weeks after being off. If you have a wife to please on a consistent basis, maybe get some viagra.

Acne went away for me. I got it bad on cycle, but it started clearing up on PCT.
 
flyhighk said:
I don't think you can get acne during pct if it wasn't an issue during cycle.
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Yeah, you can.

I've heard about it several times.

My first cycle, I didn't get bacne till after coming off. Not sure why so many different people have different issues at different times.
 
I think nolys had bacne after completing his cycle and from his description it was horrible possible accutane warranting terrible.
 
No gf I didn't I had bacne coming up to the end of my cycle or before pct... I tried a variation of taper then clomid... My pct went very well actually I never got depressed, never felt different, lost very little weight in that period (although I have lost a lot now after a period of non training) and never lost my sex drive although it dipped slightly...
 
nolys said:
No gf I didn't I had bacne coming up to the end of my cycle or before pct... I tried a variation of taper then clomid... My pct went very well actually I never got depressed, never felt different, lost very little weight in that period (although I have lost a lot now after a period of non training) and never lost my sex drive although it dipped slightly...
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No I'll correct myself, you fucked up your cycle, then fucked up your PCT...... As I tried to tell you before a taper is just that: You taper off everything, maybe add a mild aromatise inhibitor like Anastrozol and taper off that too..... A taper is about minimal polypharmacy.... Not haphazardly throwing in clomid at 150mg/day, that was fucking stupid..!! Research the side effects of Clomid.... I've studys to show clomid has been used effectively at 25mg/day, and certainly 50mg is an optimal dose IMO when you consider the potential side effects it can have on some people... If it should be used at all..???
 
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Cashgarden said:
I'm finishing up my first test cycle and am wondering what my sex drive will be like on PCT. Right now, I'm on my second week of being on nothing and will start the actual PCT next week. So far, my drive seems normal but I don't want it to be something my significant other will notice. I have noticed my motivation to hit to gym dropped and that has me a little worried. Think next time I might just blast and cruise (I'm around 40 yrs old).
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That can depend on a plethora of factors: The type of compound/s you were on: Testosterones, DHT's, or 19-nors, the quantity, and for how long... Also what compounds you choose for PCT, when you apply them and for how long..
As for anyone on PCT: Diet should be kept optimal, and training shouldn't be as long or as heavy..
When your Test/Estrogen ratios go out of whack, there is the strong possibility of mood changes, I've studys somewhere to show a strong correlation between abnormal Estrogen levels and depression:
Estrogen imbalance may contribute to depression by lowering 5-HT (serotonin) levels in the brain

Low levels of serotonin are associated with high levels of pain sensitivity, locomotion, aggression, and sexual activity. Biological psychiatry; Lucki,I; 44(3);151-162 (1998).

Low levels of serotonin are also associated with depression, panic disorders, and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Patients with evidence of low serotonin levels have attempted suicide by very dramatic means. Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behaviour 52:341-346 (1995)

Knocking out E2 with SERM's or suicidal inhibitors you may experience emotional issues...
The very thought of coming off steroids, watching your strength endurance and motivation decline can be enough in some people to bring on depression, knowing you have your next cycle sat in your top drawer ready to use whenever you choose can be a sufficient mental boost..LOl
I've always found jumping on creatine mono prior to cessation of the steroid regime, knowing in about 8 week I'll be about the same size n strength on cycle worked for me..
Regards your sex drive: Who knows..? Everyone's different.. By applying PCT as best you can, will minimise any potential side effects..
 
Genetic Freak said:
No I'll correct myself, you fucked up your cycle, then fucked up your PCT...... As I tried to tell you before a taper is just that: You taper off everything, maybe add a mild aromatise inhibitor like Anastrozol and taper off that too..... A taper is about minimal polypharmacy.... Not haphazardly throwing in clomid at 150mg/day, that was fucking stupid..!! Research the side effects of Clomid.... I've studys to show clomid has been used effectively at 25mg/day, and certainly 50mg is an optimal dose IMO when you consider the potential side effects it can have on some people... If it should be used at all..???
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Lol shut up gf, funny how you start saying shit as soon as I turned mod... I took 1 day of 150mg yes, still don't know why but hey I'm young I do stupid shit...
I wanted to try out my own method... Which worked for me, I had no issues during pct. I'm going to repeat it next time if I come off actually. Nobody learns new methods until they try, and what works for some may not work for others...

Enlighten me, how did I fuck up my cycle?
I got injured yeah, due to a long term untreated injury, doesn't mean I fucked it up... if I hadn't of gotten injured it would have been perfect I gained something like 30lbs whilst staying lean...
 
Thanks to everyone for their advice. My cycle went very well. I was taking 250mg of test cypionate E3D, I had a about a 150 tabs of var does at 10mg that I took around 40mg a day at the end of my cycle based on a 12 week cycle but I was having so much fun that I extended the cycle for 3 more weeks of just test cyp. There was no way I was going to get more var at those prices so I used what I had. I'm three days away from finishing my 2 week hiatus before starting PCT: clomid at 50/50/40/20 (but I might adjust) and tamox or arimdex for a couple of weeks.

I'm 5'8", was 185lb around 13%bf (just a guess but I'm an ex-wrestler), now 200lb around 10%bf. I thought it was funny that I gained almost all of that weight within the first 4 weeks before cutting back on calories to keep that weight and size but harden up.

Plan on doing my next in January. Thanks again too all.
 
Congratulations on a good cycle then!


Side Note: Nolys and GF need to have a friendly boxing match.
 
Cashgarden said:
Thanks to everyone for their advice. My cycle went very well. I was taking 250mg of test cypionate E3D, I had a about a 150 tabs of var does at 10mg that I took around 40mg a day at the end of my cycle based on a 12 week cycle but I was having so much fun that I extended the cycle for 3 more weeks of just test cyp. There was no way I was going to get more var at those prices so I used what I had. I'm three days away from finishing my 2 week hiatus before starting PCT: clomid at 50/50/40/20 (but I might adjust) and tamox or arimdex for a couple of weeks.

I'm 5'8", was 185lb around 13%bf (just a guess but I'm an ex-wrestler), now 200lb around 10%bf. I thought it was funny that I gained almost all of that weight within the first 4 weeks before cutting back on calories to keep that weight and size but harden up.

Plan on doing my next in January. Thanks again too all.
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There's your problem..!! The most anabolic thing is food, cut that back and gains will diminish...!!
 
Genetic Freak said:
There's your problem..!! The most anabolic thing is food, cut that back and gains will diminish...!!
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Wait so youre telling me I cant just shoot roids and not eat!?!? So like I have to eat food to get bigger? *mind blown*
 
nolys said:
Lol shut up gf, funny how you start saying shit as soon as I turned mod...
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Let me take you back to your post 25-06-2013 10:47 : http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/681208-clomid-shaking


If your gonna taper your Testosterone dose end of cycle you follow the exact protocol I sent you, or you don't do it at all..!!!!!

You don't drop to 200mg Test for one week then neck a huge dose of Clomid without Nolva... Fucking Hell...!!!! I give up..!!!
 
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