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What to expect? (kratom extract question)

GodricNightfall

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Okay so I have 4 grams of some legit 20x kratom. I was wondering the best dosage for me to give me the best euphoric high but not be too sleepy. I was thinking throw back 2 grams and go from there which would be the same as 40 grams leaf. I have a natural high tolerance to opiates as I have done 60mg of hydro and about 400mg of codeine and had a nice relaxing high after only a few times of trying them.

How long does it take to feel the effects of kratom, How long will it last? what is the best way to ingest it? Any other info would be nice too.
 
I'm assuming by 20x kratom you mean you have the powdered extract? If so, the best way to ingest it is to make kratom tea and then drink the tea. Kratom tea is nice because it hits you quite quickly (much faster than opiate pills do, in my experience) and you can redose easily to find where you want to be because of how quick it hits you.

I recommend using 2 grams to start out with, make and drink the tea, wait 15-20 minutes and see how you feel. You can always make more tea to get to the dosage/high you want. Since your tolerance is at that 60mg hydrocodone level, you may need more than 2 grams but due to variation in strains/vendors/etc, its always best to start low in case you were lucky and got a really potent batch.

As far as duration of effect, expect 3-5 hours, maybe more if you end up taking a lot. Just a heads up, kratom can produce quite a lot of nausea at higher dosages.

Hope this helps :)

Also, if you get the chance, browse through The Kratom Thread over in Other Drugs, there's tons of personal experiences/misc. information regarding kratom and kratom preparations.
 
Thanks man, do you plateau after like 20 minutes? should I just like boil some water and throw the kratom in the teapot with the freshly boiled water or should I use some green tea as well?
 
I would say the comeup lasts a while, plateau at maybe 60-75 minutes but that depends on stomach contents, the concentration of the tea (how much water you used in it - I usually use too much water haha), stomach pH and a few other factors.

should I just like boil some water and throw the kratom in the teapot with the freshly boiled water or should I use some green tea as well?

Yep. You can do either or, green tea really helps out the taste though. So does adding honey, I've found.
 
hahahah yeah ill probably just slam it back once its lukewarm because im sure its not gonna taste the greatest anyway. Ill be able to handle it because I managed to drink 2 cups of cwe my first time doing it. Used wayyyy to much water.
 
hahahah yeah ill probably just slam it back once its lukewarm because im sure its not gonna taste the greatest anyway. Ill be able to handle it because I managed to drink 2 cups of cwe my first time doing it. Used wayyyy to much water.

Props, CWE's usually taste pretty bad. Kratom's taste isn't that bad, its very dirty/grimy feeling though, just make sure you've got a big glass of water or some other chaser within arm's reach so you can wash your mouth out and you'll be good.
 
So I just consumed the whole 4 grams about 35 minutes ago. Definitly has a nice feel to it and have a bit of euphoria and itchyness(i like that). But I wouldnt say it was worth $20. Definitly would be something I would enjoy if I had an abundance of it but probably wouldnt ger any more soon. Might smoke a bit of weed though not too much because last time when on hydro it fucked up the hydro high. I just felt high and very itchy lol.
 
make sure you're getting your kratom from a reputable source. there is a forum out there, i'm sure i'm not allowed to mention it by name, that is full of kratomophiles, and one of the sub forums is for vendor ratings. see if you can sniff that forum out. before I found it, I was ordering my kratom from a bunk source and it did nothing for me. keep in mind you have to register for said board before you can even read the posts, which makes lurking impossible. also, while on this board, be sure if you post to use their lingo-they are all about keeping kratom legal, and since it is not intended to be ingested by humans, they use terms such as "incense" and "putting kratom on the burner."
once you get to the forum, you will find a whole bunch of great vendors with great selections. furthermore, they often throw in numerous samples with your orders, so you can try out various different types to find which works best for you.
as for making the tea, my method was to put about 2 teaspoons (i used regular leaf, either bali for relaxation or thai ma daeng for energy, not extracts-much better bang for the buck, in my book) in a teacup, bring some water to a gentle boil, pour about 3 ounces of the boiling water over it, mix thoroughly, then fill to the top with lukewarm water. it's easier to slug back a colder mix then it is with boiling water.
as N.T mentioned, if you dose too much, nausea can become an issue, as can something many refer to as "wobbly eyes," where you can't seem to focus on any one thing. also, many swear by the "less is more" mantra with kratom, as it supposedly contains both opiod agonists AND antogonists, kind of like bupe, so there may be a ceiling effect on it.
 
I got it from a reliable source and if I wanted I could get my money back but It was was legit and I am pretty sure its just me. The place I got it from makes sure all alkaloids are present so its the same as leaf, I consumed 80 grams and had an alright time. nuff said.
 
i read nothing in this thread....no 20x is legit....everyone says the same shit...all i gotta say is if it works for you then its good...
 
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