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Heroin What to do with bad heroin (ECP)?

ShaunG

ShaunG

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The dope around here is crap lately. I would prefer OC30s to what has been going around lately. I do not IV, I snort. For some reason IV users don't mind it the crap, but snorting produces almost no euphoria at all...a brief warmth of the face and palms at most and no sedation. It kind of amps me up and makes me anxious which is exactly the opposite of what I want when I do it. If it didn't pin my pupils and take away WDs I wouldn't even think it was an opiate....very bad. If I keep doing it the cut ends up making me too anxious or I puke without any opiate euphoria.

Anyways, other than keeping it for maintenance and IVing...is there anything to do with this garbage? You can't smoke ECP right? I don't even care about wasting it. Snorting it is worthless.
 
Bad dope is bad dope...

You can smoke powder.. but it's mostly just a waste. Either way, if it's crappy dope, nothing is going to change.

What to do with bad heroin? ... throw it out and don't buy it again...
 
haha ya I forgot to add that option...toss it...Just wondered if anyone had any tricks to get rid of the cut or diff roa. Kind wonder why it's cut with shitty stuff and water soluble things. At least if it was all inactives and non water soluble cuts u could clean it up a bit and not get nasty side effects. Ah well...
 
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Dope is dope is dope. If its shitty quality just do more. It shouldnt produce completely different effects. Maybe you got som ething that isnt real dope

Unless were talking tar vs powder
 
nah i was talking powder (one light brown and one grey with black specs). doing more produced undesirable side effects and no euphoria although it still pinned my pupils and made me feel kind of amped up/anxious moreso than doing a little so I dunno....maybe someone cut up with morphine or something which would explain why IV users like it and nasally it is beat. It smells/tastes like dope tho for sure. I wish this were an isolated incident. Unfortunately about half the times i tried it this is what I get stuck with. 6 lines versus 1 line still does not produce the warm euphoria blanket or sedation that good dope has in the past from one small line. i'll just chalk it up to complete garbage and move on I guess...save it for maintenance since it seems to work for that with pills.
 
I dont know if you would be interested, but plugging it would be an option, and an option very similar to IV, you just have to wait a bit for onset...just an idea to get the most of your money out of it...
 
RedRum OG said:
Dope is dope is dope. If its shitty quality just do more. It shouldnt produce completely different effects. Maybe you got som ething that isnt real dope

Unless were talking tar vs powder
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I don't know, I mean, theoretically this should be how things work but there have been bags I've done that just suck and no matter how much of them I shoot, I hardly get higher, or higher. Usually I'll think I finally hit the sweet spot, ad then ten minutes later the buzz will just fade (however this crap opiate always gets me straight). Some dope is just shit, and I don't know if it has to do with the cuts or poor processing of the actual drug. Whenever someone starts giving me that kind of crap I find a new connect.
 
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I don't know, I mean, theoretically this should be how things work but there have been bags I've done that just suck and no matter how much of them I shoot, I hardly get higher, or higher. Usually I'll think I finally hit the sweet spot, ad then ten minutes later the buzz will just fade (however this crap opiate always gets me straight). Some dope is just shit, and I don't know if it has to do with the cuts or poor processing of the actual drug. Whenever someone starts giving me that kind of crap I find a new connect.
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Ya, maybe poor synthesis or something? It definitely gets me straight and I might feel a bit of warmth for 30 minutes, but then no matter how much you do...it doesn't go anywhere. Accept for its so strange that 8-10 hours later I can get some sort of a nod. I have no idea why this is. The only conclusion I could come up with is my liver is doing something right much later, but nasal absorption is crap. Don't get me wrong, its not a nice euphoric nod, but its almost like that without the euphoria...that dreamy nod. It usually lasts a few hours. Regardless, this is not what i am looking for.
 
If your physically dependent your in a tough spot, if not get rid of it and don't buy anymore from this dude. Get a new connect (easier said than done) unless your near an open air market...
 
fi snorting it is useless, its useless all around. YOu cant turn shitty drugs into good ones lol.
 
you could attempt a simple water purification. it will only work if the cut isn't water soluble, but if that's the case its a simple process to seperate the cut from the gear.

the basics are add water to the mix, filter it with a cotton and then let the solution dry. it's the same process people use when i.v.ing, except instead of injecting the solution you dry it out.

if you want detailed instructions let me know. it can be done with an oral syringe if your not comfortable with purchasing needles. you can suck it through a cotton filter a couple times, or you can suck it through a cotton then put a coffee filter over the tip of the oral syringe and push the solution through it.

since you are snorting the finished product will be much better for your nose. it can also be used as an exploratory technique, you can figure out if the insoluble cuts are causing the problems, or if the cuts are soluble in which case you should stop buying it.

if you decide to smoke it I've heard caffeine helps. my guess is you buy some vivarin caffeine tabs or excedrine which has apap and caffeine crush them up and mix some in with the dope before you smoke it. I don't feel too good about suggesting you smoke pills, but at the end of the day if you decide to try it you should do some more research.
 
lately the stuff here hasn't been that great to downright bizarre. (see my thread "dafuq? green specks in my dope?"...it's not too far down on the list but it has since been closed)

the stuff i had with green specks of stuff in it, i discovered was more than likely cut with dyphenhydramine...it was kind of speedy, too. i had trouble falling asleep after using it. i prefer OC30's over all, as well, but we all know H is cheaper...hints the craptastic quality, sometimes. usually i get pretty good stuff, though. i snort as well. i was an I.V. user several years back but i quit that about a year and a half ago and have stayed away from the hypo since. most my friends still I.V. and they actually do complain about the quality lately, as well. i get good deals on smalls and bigs both so i will often break a little extra off for a friend when using with them. i often test the quality of my new bag by basing a "dot" of the stuff, first (plus i am usually starting to WD and i want it to quit 10 seconds after pressing my dose on the foil. lol) lately, i have even had dealers let me try smoking a "dot" of the dope before i buy it. most of them have known me a long time and have no problem letting me test the shit first.

and swain...all drugs have a good and bad side to them. heroin is not the horrific demon that the news and media has turned it into. yes it can ruin your life if you get carried away with it...that goes for pretty much anything, though.

also, snorting heroin is a very effective method of use IF you know how to use properly. peace
 
Dude if snorting kills the withdraws an there ain't nothin good id just say get the bare minimum to kill the withdraws and just wait to ya hear about better shit floating around or get out there an find better shit.
 
just like you in oct 2012 i was snorting it, and in the beginning it was okay shit, eventually no high at all just keeping me from being sick and if i did a lot, i'd throw up. eventually this drove me insane and i went to the needle..and holy fuck this is not shit dope i just built up a tolerance. i did that for a couple months and realized how i didn't want this for myself, i went on sub for a little and went back to snorting (never going back to the needle, although it is the best feeling in the world, i value my life more). ..
also, where i live i get brown powder and i sometimes smoke it (takes practice and technique) and i can defiantly feel the rush but it doesn't last long.

so just based on experience its very possible you built tolerance, and its hard to snort that much powder and have your mucus membranes take it all in = very hard to get high this way.

I'd try smoking it a little, if you know someone that can show u that would be easier but what i do is get a tea light candle and place it on the table and i hold the tinfoil over it with one hand (with my dope on it) formed into a circle type thing, and use something larger and round like a toilet paper roll in the other up to my mouth (so you don't lose the smoke) and that has worked pretty well so far when i snort and do this with some of my bag.

(currently on day 3 going on 4 on suboxone though) but good luck and try not to go to the needle cause it is very hard to turn down after you have that feeling.
 
I know how hard it is to throw away bad drugs , but yea man.. Not worth the potential danger. Either throw it down the drain or.. wait till your in bad WD and use a bit then.
 
if snorting your ECP doesnt get you high plugging wont either

from my experience

some stuff can get cut like double digit times, especially now with more people doing it

its a crapshoot for the most part
 
i have a real low tolerance and never needed a large amount of H or any opiate to get off but if the H was weak or bad
it was a wrap, even taking more of it didnt help.
Like it was said here already bad dope is bad dope. you cant really do anything to make what it is any better.
thats why i hated H you never knew what you were getting whereas with OC's or any pharms it was always what it was supposed to be
 
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