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Ethnobotanicals What takes the edge off psilocybin?

sillysimian

sillysimian

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I want to experiment with using psilocybin mushrooms for expanding experiences. I've done them before for fun with drinks and pot and buddies etc. but I want to use them as a tool for personal growth.

I did a trip recently of a small dosage while by myself but the edginess makes it unpleasant.... can't relax, edgy, fidgety.... I didn't enjoy it

I'm curious if there is something that can take the edge off? I'm in asia so most drugs here are difficult to attain so my preference would be to use something like a herbal tea or an over the counter relaxant or something.

Is there something you can recommend?
 
I know the general advice is not to mix weed with psychedelics, but personally, I smoke a small amount of weed straight after I drop (i.e. take orally), to give a smoother transition/come-up to the experience. I've also found ginger/lemon/peppermint to be effective at calming down the squirrely guts feeling that can amplify the anxiety.
 
idle_curiosity said:
I know the general advice is not to mix weed with psychedelics, but personally, I smoke a small amount of weed straight after I drop (i.e. take orally), to give a smoother transition/come-up to the experience. I've also found ginger/lemon/peppermint to be effective at calming down the squirrely guts feeling that can amplify the anxiety.
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Nice, I agree. I usually take about 3 tokes 20 minutes in and ride out the quivering and nervousness. I do know if someone is not use to that it could go bad. Most people know that. But it gets intense and only for the people that already do smoke and trip.

The thing is the "uncomfortable" part lasts an hour or so for me. Then having ridden out the first hour it changes and I reach a more euphoric and peaceful place . I am always glad I hold out. It is like a rocket ship trying to break out of the atmosphere. That feeling of resistance until I reach that peaceful place of hyperspace. But that first hour needs to be ridden out without other drugs for me. (IMO of course as others are already on certain drugs and I don't think my advice pertains to them) Also so many people have their rituals, I would try herbals before pharms but to each his own. I know someone that won't trip without alprazolam in the beginning but for someone like me not use to that it would dull my trip.

There is a reward for riding out that first hour. It totally gets more comfortable and euphoric once past that resistance. So if a person can I would hold out and try and enjoy that anxious fear that kicks off.
 
idle_curiosity said:
I know the general advice is not to mix weed with psychedelics, but personally, I smoke a small amount of weed straight after I drop (i.e. take orally), to give a smoother transition/come-up to the experience. I've also found ginger/lemon/peppermint to be effective at calming down the squirrely guts feeling that can amplify the anxiety.
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Good tip, I'll make a ginger tea made with raw ginger.... its one of my favorite drinks anyway so that could work
 
I had 1g but these arent forest growing natural strains. The suppliers I have access to grow hydrid strains in controlled conditions.... theyre most potent mushrooms I've ever experienced -- nonetheless its a worthwhile test, thanks for the suggestion
Shinji Ikari said:
Maybe you should take a higher dose. If it wasn't a high enough dose to make you trip properly it might have just felt weird and anxious. How much exactly did you take?
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JackARoe said:
Nice, I agree. I usually take about 3 tokes 20 minutes in and ride out the quivering and nervousness. I do know if someone is not use to that it could go bad. Most people know that. But it gets intense and only for the people that already do smoke and trip.

The thing is the "uncomfortable" part lasts an hour or so for me. Then having ridden out the first hour it changes and I reach a more euphoric and peaceful place . I am always glad I hold out. It is like a rocket ship trying to break out of the atmosphere. That feeling of resistance until I reach that peaceful place of hyperspace. But that first hour needs to be ridden out without other drugs for me. (IMO of course as others are already on certain drugs and I don't think my advice pertains to them) Also so many people have their rituals, I would try herbals before pharms but to each his own. I know someone that won't trip without alprazolam in the beginning but for someone like me not use to that it would dull my trip.

There is a reward for riding out that first hour. It totally gets more comfortable and euphoric once past that resistance. So if a person can I would hold out and try and enjoy that anxious fear that kicks off.
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I've done ayahuasca and the trip goes exactly as you just described.... challenging until you break thru, then you're gliding in heaven. I hadn't thought about shrooming in the same way. Perhaps you're right..... just ride it out until the peace returns -- thanks the insight
 
Pissed_and_messed

Tryptamines Thread 'Pregabalin and shrooms'

The thing is, I am again mess and if my blood sedative levels drop to zero, Imma gonna have very bad time. At least so bad that any trip would turn to disaster and I should stop it then.

I thought that I'd take edible, vaporize herb a bit, take pregabalin and some shrooms. Maybe just tiniest amount of rivotril, like 1/8 piece. I have half a gram of psilocybe semilanceata. I can get acid (i am those people who like combine those two) and shrooms. I have once taken lyrica on peak of acid and it was somehow... eh... visuals were whatever, I lost some clarity while kinda getting my mindspace...

lyrica and shrooms was in my opinion fine combo. It decreases visuals a bit but does not ruin the trip like benzos. Extremely dissociative experience. It was actually more stimulating, but it eased me anyway, not much anxiety.

I prefer shrooms and weed solo, but if some strong sedative has to be taken in addition to my regular cannabis dose, pregabalin is best I think.

Can you get CBD/CBG or something?
 
sillysimian said:
And fly to a country that I can buy other substances to compliment the shrooms?
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I too am waiting on a response from ismene. I called it a rocket, maybe he called it a plane. But that resistance that pulls the skin back when trying to break out of the atmosphere is a great analogy of that first hour of tripping.
 
i don't know if take the edge off is the right way to put it, but weed totally changes the shroom experience for the better with me... i think it actually gives the sloppy melting feeling of shrooms more of an edge where the body high feels similar to lsd and the visuals usually kick in pretty good after smoking at least closed eye anyways. sometimes even on smaller doses like 2gs, i'll get to the point if i smoke a good bowl where i'm kind of uncertain if my eyes are opened or closed and there's a lot of color and/or designs.
 
idle_curiosity said:
know the general advice is not to mix weed with psychedelics, but personally, I smoke a small amount of weed straight after I drop (i.e. take orally), to give a smoother transition/come-up to the experience. I've also found ginger/lemon/peppermint to be effective at calming down the squirrely guts feeling that can amplify the anxiety.
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This. A little weed does help with the often rough comeup that goes along with shrooms and other 4ho tryptamines.
 
Natural or grown ?

No Weed ime. Nohting takes the edge of Tryptamine s. However Pregabalin might be a good one, no experience.
If you need Benzos just skip the group, or go for the most forgiving like 4-HO-MIPT.

My stupid action 1 line of Cocaine after the trip uncomfartable set in, super unlogic combo but not repeating it or regretting.`
Had a great time after that line. Why ?

Took the edge off, The Coke was unadultated btw back then.
 
^^^^that's a really good one... i was actually on a nature walk the other day for the first time in a while and wasn't tripping but was thinking about previous trips i've had in nature, and how mushrooms can be easier to deal with outside... made me kind of want some, but they are kind of a hassle for my previous situation.

i'd use shroooms a lot indoors to make music or art for years. that also gave me a really good vibe, but never as good of a body high as being in nature... hopefully they legalize shrooms. i'd start using them again. 6 cities/towns in my state decriminalized them to the point they are legal to grow, be on them in public if you aren't disturbing the peace, and also gift them to people, so i might just end up moving to a place like that if my town doesn't eventually do that. i'm not really feeling impatient about tripping again. i'd just move now, but i get a good deal to live on government property cause i'm disabled and it's smoke free housing no matter what city i live in. there are a bunch of spots to go smoke in my little city and a spot right by the apartment i'm in, and i'm not sure if i move they'll have as paranoia free places to smoke, so i'm kind of picking weed over tripping for now... i'd probably be more impatient to trip, but i have HPPD and am trying to learn to see paintings and art how i was tripping while being sober or just stoned. i'm 38. i'm hoping shrooms are completely legal by the time i'm a senior. i'm sure my body will be more sore by then too, and shrooms definitely help me with that.
 
tripping outside can make the melting feeling i described a couple posts ago and make me feel vibrant and alive if the sun is out in the sky. even on a grey day it's really not as bad with the open air imo... would recommend tripping outside if a person has a safe space to go where they aren't gonna get hassled by other people.
 
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