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What likely caused my girlfriends death

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I am a newbie so forgive me if I am do anything wrong. I am just in despreate need of finding out what killed my girlfriend. Here is the back ground. She was an addict mainly opiates. She had just got out of a BS 5 day rehap on Monday. On Tuesday she called in a refill for Klonopin which were .5 mg. She was w/me that day she also took at least a 30 mg roxicet early in the day. I have no idea how many Klonopins she took but early Wed moring I found her face down on the floor in a pool of something looked like a mixture of stomache acid and blood. Any way she was unresponsive but breathing I took her to the emergency room and she was kept for a day. Sat she came to my house around Noon she had already done 90mg of Roxicet. I watched her like a hawk the rest of the day and am all most positve she didn't do anything else until midnite. we had went to bed around 10pm or so and I woke up at midnite and found her she had stole $100 off me and got something either heroine or pills I think it was heroin personally. I went back to bed she came up soon after and said she was cold and could she sleep w/me. I let her. She started snoring badly so I slept down stairs on the couch. Next morning around 10am I checked on her and she was still snoring away. When I went to wake her up at 12:45 she was dead. There was some fluid next to her her head was turned slightly to one side and she was on her back. The authourities have told her parents that she didn't die of a drug overdose which I never thought that she did she was alive for at least 8 hrs after she did her last drug and I know she didn't wake up and do more because I searched her and she wasn't very good at hiding things in that state. So i guess what I want to know is shouldn't the medical professional be able to determine if she died from asphyxiation? And if they are telling her parents that she didn't die from an OD does that mean that they found no herione in her system, and were they just looking for that and not other things? I know klonopin and herione are not a good mix. I think she still had those Klonopin from earlier in the week because the bottle was never found. Like I said this is the first time I have ever done a forum for anything and anyone who could give me some info would be great. Since they have told her parents that she didn't die of a herione overdose it seems like they are blaming me for her death even though at the time she wasn't even living w/ me because I kicked her out because she was using. HELP PLEASE
 
Well....we must do an autopsy on her body to find out why she died....Otherwise it's hard to tell...
 
I assume that they did given her age 26, but I have no way of knowing the family will not talk to me. I assume it can't be determined if she died from asphyxiation w/out doing an autopsy. Why would they not do an autopsy? Could the family say they don't want one done? What are the mimimum tests that should have been done?
 
Klonopin has a long half-life, so maybe it did something wrong with her, I don't know, can only speculate. Sorry for your girlfriend, may she rest in peace.
 
I am very sorry and my condolences to you. Many times, people who OD on opiates do so after rehab when their tolerance is low and they shoot/take the dose they used to administer when they had a high tolerance. Mixing benzodiazapine in there may increase respiratory depression. In fact- it almost certainly will.

Take care of yourself,man.
 
I am very sorry for your loss!

I would venture a combination of Central Nervous System depressants stopped her breathing and she died. Probably because rehab dropped her tolerance than she did her usual dose like theseeker said.

The 8 hours later thing is a mystery, but it does happen, not all overdoses are immediate.

Its a very peaceful way to go if thats any small condolence.
 
I have no insight to offer. However, I would like to offer my deepest condolences.
 
I am really sorry for your loss. I can't offer any insight.. but I have been there before, if you need someone to talk too feel free to message me. My best friend OD'd on the phone with me. It was horrible.

Like others have said... and I know it doesn't make you feel any better. It is a peaceful way to go...
 
I'm really sorry for your loss. I've seen it happen too many times involving the combination of benzodiazepines and opiates.

6 years ago I lost a very special woman whom I loved deeply so I know how much it can hurt. Its very tough to get over it and feels like you never will. It gets a little easier if you try and remember all the good times you had together and know she's now in a better place.

For what its worth... <3
 
I am also sorry for your lose, as I lost a friend to the same two drugs a couple years ago. As far as an autopsy goes, but take this with a grain of salt, unless the death is supicious the authorities may forgo an autopsy. Again I am sorry for your lose.
 
Let me start by saying that I too am so very very sorry. Its not only terrible that you lost your girlfriend, but that the parents are blaming you!

But that does lead to my question: When you say the parents are blaming you, do you mean just them personally, or are they trying to take legal action? If they were taking legal action, then an autopsy would have to be performed, so that an official cause of death would be listed.

If they are just personally blaming you(not legally) I am very sorry to hear it. Its a shame, but they are probably just trying to make themselves feel better. You are not to blame.
 
Violenza666 said:
I am really sorry for your loss. I can't offer any insight.. but I have been there before, if you need someone to talk too feel free to message me. My best friend OD'd on the phone with me. It was horrible.

Like others have said... and I know it doesn't make you feel any better. It is a peaceful way to go...
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Sorry if this is to much to ask for, but what exactly happened?
 
i'm so sorry for your loss. i'm an RN and see many patients who OD from a combination of drugs like the ones you mentioned. often when toxicology tests are done the drugs are within theraputic levels but the combination causes the breathing to slow, fluid builds up in the lungs and the heart stops.
i'm very sorry. my heart goes out to you and her family.
-izzy
 
Dysphoric said:
Sorry if this is to much to ask for, but what exactly happened?
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I called my friend and he was completely fucked.. I mean just gone. All he could tell me was he loved me and he would call me when he woke up. The rest of it made no sense, I was on the phone with him for about 15 minutes. I could tell he was really fucked up I asked where he was he had OD'd a few months previous so I was really concerned. He was not in the state and couldn't tell me where he was because he didn't know and wasn't making any sense. I knew if I didn't call him an ambulance he was gonna die. He told me that he loved me and he promised to call me when he woke up and passed out on the phone. A few days later, and a ton of voicemails later I get a call from his aunt telling me he died from an overdose. Methadone, xanax, valium and cocaine. He had gotten really self destructive and wanted to die. I found out on my husbands birthday. It really fucked me up. It's been two years and I still don't like to talk about it alot but if anything I have to say can possibly help anyone that is going through it I don't mind talking about it.
 
Cant you ask to get autopsy results I mean you have a right to kno u lived with her when it happened I'd try reaching out if u already haven't, talk to the parents, but it seems like she mixed something else when u said she stoled $100 of ur money I could almost assure u she bought drugs
 
You say she was snoring pretty bad the night of her death. Did she snore frequently? It is possible that her sleep apnea combined with the CNS depressants and she stopped breathing for too long to recover. There have been cases of people with sleep apnea dying this way after a night of heavy drinking. People with that condition can sometimes stop breathing for 30 seconds or more in their sleep, I'm not sure of the exact figures. Combine that with klonopin and possibly heroin, and you get the picture.

You should try to be as transparent as possible and tell the truth about everything. Do not let the law try to pin anything on you. Sorry for your loss buddy.
 
Thanks to every one for your input it has been helpful and also for your kind words its nice to hear people offer there condolences when they are complete strangers, as appossed to ppl in her family who have done nothing less then call me a murderer. As far as the police go they didn't seem to have any problem w/ my story and I haven't heard from them since. I have heard that the snoring issue could be indicitive of some issue called agonal respiration... but I don't know from what I have researched about it it seems like it is more a last few breaths type of thing. I am guessing it was some thing like what Izzy described I just wish that could be explained to her parents. Oh yea and one more thing I forgot to mention we have a kid together and they ( her parents) have her and are trying to make me sign a ridiculous custody agreement... the whole thing is like a Greek tragedy
 
izzy66 said:
i'm so sorry for your loss. i'm an RN and see many patients who OD from a combination of drugs like the ones you mentioned. often when toxicology tests are done the drugs are within theraputic levels but the combination causes the breathing to slow, fluid builds up in the lungs and the heart stops.
i'm very sorry. my heart goes out to you and her family.
-izzy
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Should the medical examiner or who ever contacted them explained that while she didn't die as a direct result of an overdoes, but w/ the combination of drugs she took it caused other issues which led to her death. And they should be able to determine what drugs were in her system correct?
 
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