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What is the best vaporizer for flower?

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I've tried a few vapes over the years, Greco, Xvape, Storz & Bickell and my favorite cheap one is Xvape Fog plus. Best overall is the Mighty plus imo. I've not tried the Pax range at all.

I've two questions; What is the best vape?
and; What do you vape apart from cannabis?


Thank you
 
Ball vapes are the most effective, and get the biggest clouds, but the storz and bickel hybrid volcano vape is the best I know that isn't a ball vape, even though it has been around for so long. If you are looking for something not 700 dollars though, I would recommend the arizer vapes with a water pipe adapter.
 
Ball vapes are the most effective, and get the biggest clouds, but the storz and bickel hybrid volcano vape is the best I know that isn't a ball vape, even though it has been around for so long. If you are looking for something not 700 dollars though, I would recommend the arizer vapes with a water pipe adapter.
Such as the solo 2 or 3
 
Hands down any Storz & Bickel product and you already named my favorite the Mighty+. The Germans know their shit!

I only vape flower because concentrates will just lead to you not getting high anymore. The strains with the highest THC are not the best and take it from someone that produces cup winning strains. Taste a effects wins cups not THC levels.
 
I've tried a few vapes over the years...

It happens to many of us - and in too many cases awhile after making some expensive purchase decision (based on cost or even "reputation"...), which actually distracts from this basic principle: function defines shape.

So what was the function initially? :unsure:

Well, for those making the transition between combustion smoke and vaporism i'd say it's about substitution, and a health-wise one if possible!

Consequently another question emerges: what's a typical ex-smoker depending on exactly? Then which type of ritual is associated to it??

:Sherlock:

Here's a hint on the perspective i developped trying to redefine my own preferences.

...what i called the "Micro-Bursting" consumption method & ritual, better explained with an analogy:

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It's about avoidance of cumulative side-effects from "BAKING", which i also refer to as "COOKING" interchangeably.

As a smoker i remember there were essentially 2 phases. At first i caused my cigarette's tip to turn red-hot until sufficient energy build-up was acquired, which is about the « Pre-Heat » phase (#1); after that i was ready for a « Release » of the noble molecules combined to convective « Transport » (#2), because of the intensely hot airflow. Of course while smoking we experience some blurred transition during such sequence, while as a vaporist we get an opportunity to optimize that process and render our consumption method much more beneficial by avoiding the "baking" effect, depending on a device's design...

Ultimately the whole task revolves around this microscopic feature of cannabis:

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One major difficulty i've experienced using my old 300+ $Cdn HerbalAire (v2.1 in 2010) was it's slow/steady dry ovenizer concept, which felt even worse when i gave Arizer's V-Tower a 3 weeks try. Lucky me, multiple « FogBong! » experiments made it obvious that i needed portable self-moisturization, so i abandoned the HA table unit 25 months later while i had started to customize VaporGenie's pipe. This long involving process lasted until my next iteration no longer seemed to improve the level of satisfaction significantly.

YMMV!

These days i can only wish i could go through yet another years-long quest progressing toward Induction Heat. I got a new IH cooker this Christmass in case a few intuitions could verify, but quite frankly i believe i've done my fair share as an ordinary consumer. Most people now want battery-based solutions in a pen/cigar format anyway, e.g. putting shape before function exactly - which i find counter-productive.

Nonetheless all we need to know becomes evident under a microscope. It's about exploiting basic laws of dame Nature to selectively vaporize trichome glands and leave the rest behind, ideally. A story about time, mass, specific heat capacity and energy with its tiny contact surface in mind:

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Just look at it! Those trichome glands practically float above a massive vegetal substrate waiting to get discriminately selected. Which reminds me of this cruel game, if one is an arachnoïd lover: to heat-shave the hairy spider... The goal is this, torch it without killing it; and the trick is to keep the flame moving while taking advantage of the insect's exo-skeleton: when done right its hairs glow briefly but it has some chances of survival.

In conclusion, transpose this crude game to trichome glands to identify the ultimate objective of a vaporist: to release/transport the goodies only.

Slow/steady dry overnizers don't accomplish that. Those devices bake everything to provide and impression of abundance, generating monster clouds, etc. The new trend of micro-dosing concentrates is no less deceiving as this leads into dosing abuse and the tolerance spiral associated to it. In short, hardly health-wise at all, without elements of self-awareness combined to neuro-plasticity. Etc., etc.

Good day, have fun!! ☮️
 
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My problem with anything other than flowers is related to this simple home-made rule:

To always « Follow the Shortest Path of Lesser Transformation ».​

One possible exception might be if we could get our hands on "kief" which is only made of trichome glands, but that's no option in my $a¢rifi¢ed ¢anu¢k province where the 30 % ceiling implies 70 % of something else! Of course i tried and the view under a microscope was ugly, a sacrilège... At least flowers come with true beauty that works like canaries in a coal mine, because indu$trials can't perform « remediation » and hope this won't leave any visual hints.

In theory haschich should result in an optimized energy budget most compatible with portable devices, too bad there ain't much left to inspect even under a 100 X objective... As briefly explained previously the « Micro-Bursting » vaporist strategy selectively targets contact surfaces where noble molecules have been collected in convenient packages. I've customized the VG pipe until its pre-heat time went down to 1 second, which means the rest has little time left to thermalize once the payload been released & transported away into a convective stream.

One trade-off is partial rejection of shredded vegetal substrate soaked with less-than-noble content, which can be considered beneficial if we consider this didn't go through the secretion gland of a trichome and hence lacks purification from molecular-based genesis encoded by genetics - e.g. the natural equivalent of filtration performed for free. Slow/steady dry ovenizers cook/mix everything, on the contrary; so it's reasonable to conclude this results in a sacrifice in terms of density/opacity, besides i think also part of the "entourage effect", or at least some aroma/taste hints.

Those matters would be of little concern if everybody could access cannabis of BIO quality, free of any "$anitory additive$", which is no longer the case in a world obsessed with profit, efficiency or both. Of course one can fear my rule from above gets violated by artisans, but those guys can only manage with a few products while industries work with catalogs ranging in the hundreds and that's a nightmare come true, especially when "traces" are involved in absence of combinatorial C(n, r) restrictions, covered with a concept of non-detection, etc., etc.

In conclusion it's never been this appropriate to selectively target the trichome gland since « legaleezation » has become a topic!

YMMV. Good luck with the long-term effects from exposure we must not compare with consumption of strawberries...

☣️
 
In terms of technical difficulty, I was expecting big clouds vs small clouds, so I'm well confussed.

I need a tolerance break to think this through

I make my own concentrates and one time I infused decarbed bud into a PG/VG mix and put this into a nicotine vape. It sort of worked, it was massively wasteful compared to heating bud directly in the mighty+

Next on my experimental list is making roisin with roisin bags and hair straightners, who will lend me a set of straightners?
 
In terms of technical difficulty, I was expecting big clouds vs small clouds, so I'm well confussed.

I need a tolerance break to think this through

I make my own concentrates and one time I infused decarbed bud into a PG/VG mix and put this into a nicotine vape. It sort of worked, it was massively wasteful compared to heating bud directly in the mighty+

Next on my experimental list is making roisin with roisin bags and hair straightners, who will lend me a set of straightners?
I've tried putting cannabinoids into PG and VG before. Its terrible and doesn't mix, separates easily. Just a nightmare IMO

The best way to do vapes is to work with a defatted/dewaxed concentrate otherwise your wick gets gummed up and the waxes will fall out of solution

Using distillate or shatter with some terpenes to reduce viscosity is the way to go for vapes
 
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