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What is going on? I feel so strange! Please!

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jakon325

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Okay, I read bluelight all the time and just happened to make an account the other day.
I went to register again and it turns out, I registered already.

NOT THE POINT....

POINT IS.

This is happens to me everytime I trip.
I have only done 2c-i and 2c-e
My first time on 2c-i was some druggie high on OC and adderall giving me an unknown amount of 2c-i on the tip of a spoon. I am assuming that about 100mgs, I swear to god, I own a scale and know what 100mg's looks like, even though I know the whole volume deal but still, I tripped for 12 hours with intense back pain, jaw clenching, sweating, complete bliss with negative side effects that I did not mind because it was my first trip.

I've never laughed on psychedelics again....

Everytime I trip, I feel alienated and dissocaiated from PEOPLE, maybe that is reality. Everytime I trip I feel like I'm not really tripping, then I feel like I am, then I don't, and I look at the curtains and they are breathing and so isn't the wood grain, I just feel like I'm on drugs.

This is my 7th time on 2c-e and I have done 2c-i 5 times.
For both substances.... nothing ever above 20mg's, except 2c-i I did 30mgs once(after my first trip).

Right now is 12mg's 2c-e.... I mixed 108mg's 2c-e with sugar and did the math blah blah so I could weight small doses and yeah.

what is this? why do my trips feel no emotion aside from being content and able to stare at the walls and be like.. "that's cool and all but wtf where is pluto?"

Was my first trip so intense nothing will compare until a sober period for a year?

I am not medicine, I eat healthy and exercise, I work, I go to university.

My mental state on average over the last year has consisted of bout of depression(related to wanted a girlfriend), anxiety(stressful life), social anxiety(confidence issues).

I'm informed on psychedelic experiences from reading stuff and know about the 2c-pea's, I'm not dumb, I'm just kind of goin' right now so excuse this tone. Sorry if this shouldn't be posted here.

Incase you wanted to know, I feel some love right now? Now I thought about it and I don't? the fuck... I feel like I don't fit in.
 
I'm not really sure what you're asking man. Could you elucidate a bit and maybe we can help. I don't think you need to worry about being a square peg in a round hole around here if that was the meaning of the last bit of your post. It's a pretty tolerant, diverse and understanding community here, at least I've always found it to be so :)

Peace, Ethnobot
 
Ya know, it's only been a little bit of time but I feel like I just came back to reality(sort of).

I was on the computer for awhile just reading(while tripping?), and I went to smoke a cigarette very fast and i felt relaxed and like....

Basically let me say my first post over again...(I just read that, I was speaking my thoughts I guess, kinda funny reading that)

I took 12mg's of 2c-e, I'm sure of it's purity and that it was 12mg's blah blah I weighed it and did stuff and yeah it's deff 2c-e and deff 12mg's.

uhm, I'm not back to reality completely haha but here I go

When I trip, I really just feel like an alien, I don't have fun and sometimes it goes bad and I recover from that anxiety panicky state with good thoughts but I honestly feel like I have only tripped once. And that one trip was my first one.

Like my first trip everything was visuals, faces were changing emotions and the tv looked like a metallic overtone with crayons, it was so crazy intense that I want that again but I'm afraid to dose high(fear of negative side effects)

What's up with the ()?

God damn, basically let me get back to you when I'm sober so I can talk.

I'll try again though. When I trip, I just feel WEIRD, alienated(like I don't fit in), and disassociated from society. I want to trip and then I dose and then I regret it when I'm coming up, and then I feel strange, and then I get over that with some positive thoughts and then I just feel nothing.
I can't explain, I only like psychedelics when I'm not on them?
Thank you for replying....

maybe I should have started with LSD or mushrooms

Salvia makes me trip real hard, harder than my friends go with the same dose/extract.
 
What goes on in people's head when they trip? Do they get happy or do they just feel weird like me, maybe I have the wrong idea going on in my head, I read wayyyyy to much about psychedelics and I'm probably only remember and retrieving the wrong information to influence a more positive trip? fuck I what a bad first impression for bluelight =[
 
IMO, try other psychedelics in the future. My first few encounters with psychedelics were 2ci and 2ce, and from what I have experienced they can be pretty nasty chemicals, especially 2ci, which has left me feeling odd or out of place for weeks after dosing. (not to mention HPPD) So I can kind of relate to what you're describing.

What setting are you in presently? Maybe you keep choosing an environment that is not appropriate for tripping. Do you have a buddy with you or is this a solo mission?
 
Yeah, I would go for a substance with a more euphoric component, like maybe LSAs or something (or LSD if you can find it and the bits of body load from the LSAs would be a problem for you). Start with a low dose though just in case. Some of these research chems can have weird effects and the way different individuals react to them hasn't been as well documented. If you don't have any joy with more traditional psychs, you may have to face the fact that now might not be a suitable time in your life to be tripping. I know that's prolly not what you want to hear but maybe you should try and tackle the root causes of the mental issues you've described and become more comfortable just in your own skin before attempting to explore the boundaries of your consciousness. Are you getting any therapy?
Anyhow, I wish you all the luck in the world :)

Peace, Ethnobot
 
Phenethylamines tend to be mostly visual and somatic. Try a tryptamine such as mushrooms, DMT in some form, 4-HO-MET, 4-AcO-DMT...
 
i think i know the feeling you are describing-- the alienness. of course you feel alienated from society while you are tripping, because your brain is so far away from earth that you can't possibly relate to sober people.

are all your trips alone? try tripping with some close friends. 2c-drugs in particular are great for tripping with a significant other because for me and most people they are INTENSE sexual enhancers.

if you are really looking for 'emotional enhancement' then get your hands on shrooms or 4-aco-dmt as the tryptamines are very very spiritual compared to the "sparkly" phenethylamines.
 
OP,
what goes on in people's head during a trip?

anything and everything is possible.
one thing people need to understand when dealing with psychedelics is
that they are the ones making their trip. reality is what you make it etc.

ie-
wether you think you can or you cant, you are correct.

;)


if you go into it thinking that you'll have bad thoughts, you are going to have bad thoughts.
if you go into it thinking youll be happy, youll be happy.

either way, anything can crop up on psych's.
be ready to deal with underlying issues, instead of shying away and burying them.

psychedelics are a GREAT self-analysis & psychotherapy tool, use them to your advantage.
if thoughts crop up that you're uncomfortable with,
analyze the situation and figure out why you're uncomfy with them.
get to the root of the problem.

i assure you that if you fix mental issues that show themselves during a trip, they are much less likely to trouble you in the future.


also, if you havent tried LSD, i would strongly recommend it!
it is pretty much completely non-toxic, and you'd become catatonic before even nearing an LD-50 dosage (arount 12mg aka 12000ug [micrograms], the average dose is 120ug).

in this sense, LSD is a very forgiving drug, and also IMO can show you so much more than any 2c compound.



in fact, IMO, the 2c's are for fun and novelty, and LSD is for proper trips.

if you can, try and get ahold of 3 hits of acid, and take them when you're in the right mindset and have no
commitments for the day after.

the one thing for ANY psychedelic experience is dont be afraid.
dont be afraid of what the experience can show you,
dont be afraid of your own mind,
dont be afraid to surrender yourself to the experience.

<3 dont be afraid <3
 
jakon325 said:
Right now is 12mg's 2c-e.... I mixed 108mg's 2c-e with sugar and did the math blah blah so I could weight small doses and yeah.
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This method really doesn't work at all for accurate dosing - there's no way to know how evenly distributed your 2C-E is amongst the sugar so it's unlikely your weighed dose contained the amount of 2C-E you wanted. Perhaps take a look through The Liquid Measurement thread for a reliable way of dosing these drugs accurately. With a substance like 2C-E it's really important to get your dose right cos just a mg or two out can make a huge difference.

If you've always measured this way you've probably been out on your dose (maybe by quite some distance) on every trip which would definitely be very confusing. I'm not suggesting this is the cause of your concerns but knowing precisely how much you are taking each time would definitely be a good idea and make your trips at least slightly more predictable. I'm sure this would help even if it doesn't completely solve your issues :)
 
well its no secret that taking psychedelic drugs fucks up your mind and makes you mentally ill.

dr. lazyscience prescribes taking no more drugs - at least for a while.
 
Lazyscience said:
well its no secret that taking psychedelic drugs fucks up your mind and makes you mentally ill.

dr. lazyscience prescribes taking no more drugs - at least for a while.
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Why are you even on bluelight then? Can't get much safer than LSD
 
Dude maybe the stress load from uni is doin it to ya? Lay off everything for a while and just get ur head back together, sometimes it the only way to fix shit. Maybe check over your diet, are you getting good protein, slow releasing carbs and good fats? I find flax seed oil and protein shakes do so much good for you.

PM me if u want some info on that stuff.
 
The idea that mixing sugar & drugs together & then weighing it off will give an accurate dosage is to put it politely misinformed.


BUT maybe my assumption is misplaced, maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks.....

. I mixed 108mg's 2c-e with sugar and did the math blah blah so I could weight small doses and yeah.
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Please do describe the method used, I'm particularly interested in how the active cut is guaranteed to be evenly dispersed with the sugar.
 
There's no way to know how evenly dispersed the drug is in the sugar. Use liquid measurement next time.

And take what Sega said to heart, psychs are just an enhancement of real life. Sometimes real life is awesome, sometimes it's not. Psychedelic drugs will be the same way.
 
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