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What is a Good Salvia trip like

billy_m100

billy_m100

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I have only seen people have bad trips because my friends are not very good sitters. I have never smoked Salvia and i was wondering what a good trip is like? and how i can help myself have a good trip
 
caseface99 said:
Good and bad don't exist in that world.
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please explain i know what it does but a lot of the people i know have what i would say "stupid" trips. Like its totally pointless. Now i do have some friends who smoke and have spiritual stuff going in their trip. how can i have a meaningful trip like that?
 
billy_m100 said:
I have never smoked Salvia
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billy_m100 said:
i know what it does
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Impossible :D

Just try it out and see for yourself. Its really difficult to explain what a trip is like because it affects everyone differently and one trip can be very different from the next.

For me it was always a very intense experience. Physically intense. Probably one of the strangest drugs out there.
 
Bardo5 said:
Just try it out and see for yourself. Its really difficult to explain what a trip is like because it affects everyone differently and one trip can be very different from the next.

For me it was always a very intense experience. Physically intense. Probably one of the strangest drugs out there.
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I feel the same way. I think its best not to get too hung up on whether you will have a good or bad trip. If people have advice on what made them have a better trip, than that is great. I'm not sure how much setting does effect a salvia trip compared to other drugs, I have not really thought about that. My advice would be to do it somewhere safe with someone that you trust. Somewhere where your sitting or lying down or something.

To tell you the truth, I didn't enjoy salvia that much, although I did it a few times, am glad that i tried it, and may do it again sometime in the future. My first time may have been the best, actually. It doesn't last that long when you smoke it so its not a big deal if it is a bit too much. I found it intense, like experiencing an entirely new spacial dimension.

I have a friend who says he really enjoys it though so clearly people do have different experiences.
 
From what I hear, in salvia trips, basically shit just happens. You travel from realm to realm and see sometimes good and sometimes bad things until you come down from it.
 
its not a trip like most other things. its too intense and strong and quick to really have a trip aspect. youre just fucking blasted in the head, especially with the right method- torch lighter and bong, with high extract.

just be in a soft place.
 
i just laugh and feel like i'm on high 2nd plateau DXM trip. I've only had good experiences with it, never saw anything though I've done 20x only.
 
I have never smoked a moderate dose, only about half a gram of 30X in one hit, but from the parts i recall there is no ability to comprehend anything at all, much less whether or not its good or bad. I took as big of a hit as i possibly could out of a bong, and immediately forgot everything. I forgot i had smoked salvia, i forgot who i was, i forgot i had even existed. I was a stamp in a machine continues slamming down on a conveyor belt of nothing. Out of all these moving parts, nothing was connected. Everything was just part of the bigger whole and basically floating, however orderly. I had a very brief thought that i must have died, however i didn't understand the concept of death or life, or anything. However i have a slight memory of a sense of fear or doom, feeling a sense of "forever". I guess i started coming down, and as quickly as i had awakened there, something happened and again i lost my memory. I ended up in a half memory half dream world, where i had a VERY strong sense of nostalgia. I am convinced i was inside a memory or dream or both from when i was VERY young. At one point, i go out through a front yard and walk up to a moving truck in the road, i am hopping up onto the back of it when i look in and there is an exact replica of the basement i was in where i had originally smoked the saliva, although at this point in the trip i still don't remember anything and i only see the basement in the back of the truck as familiar, but not my own. As i jump in i immediately become PART of the couch. I am stuck in a weird position and cant move, when a few faces appear in front of me floating, without bodies, heads in the shape of upside down rain drops. There are laughing hysterically while looking at me and speaking gibberish. I am severely freaked out as this point, as they slowly morph into people with bodies and whatnot. The walls of the truck explode as my basement fully reappears, and finally i am able to move. I instantly sprint over to my stairs and look up them, because i still have absolutely no idea what happened and want to see that i am actually in my basement. It is not until i go back over to the couch and sit down that "salvia" and "trip" pop into my head and i head a huge sense of relief. My friends (the faces which had been laughing at me) explained what they saw me doing in the real world and i slowly remembered aspects of the trip.

If you want to call this spiritual or whatever go for it, it may have changed me but i still don't know how. All i know is it will be a while before i have a desire to smoke salvia again, if ever. And this was well over a year ago.



I can NOT stress nearly enough remotely how intense this is, and just how literally you DONT know you are tirpping, you dont know ANYTHING. Its just terror in its most pure form.
 
i did this stuff a decent number of times a year-ish ago. i ended my salvia career with a salvia trip while i was on LSD, not the brightest idea.

the only way i can explain it with words is: you lose all meaning and connection to reality. those parts of your brain become twisted and objects, colors, words or sounds can mean 1000 words to you. on top of that a peak break through experience can be hard to remember and very odd. ive seen fractals of my brain being made in a factory. my friend also turned into a talking yellow fence.

theres a fat headrush, a tingly feeling on the skin, and a weird "extra" gravity feeling.

ive done 5x all the way up to 40x and the 10x i used from the company 'ecstasy' was by far the best.
 
However i have a slight memory of a sense of fear or doom, feeling a sense of "forever". I guess i started coming down, and as quickly as i had awakened there, something happened and again i lost my memory. I ended up in a half memory half dream world, where i had a VERY strong sense of nostalgia. I am convinced i was inside a memory or dream or both from when i was VERY young
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there is something there that made me run cold.

i have that same feeling everytime. The 1 salvia trip i had i weighed the extract wrong & ended up smoking around a 1/8th of normall leaf. What i quoted was the same for me to the letter.

@caseface99 -
Good and bad don't exist in that world
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100% agree, it just is what it is
 
In retrospect my first salvia trip was a good one. My depth perception was completely skewed, things that were far away appeared to be right in front of me and those close, far away. I also felt like my face was attached to the pipe I was smoking from. After the intital tokes I felt like ropes were flung over my body and trying to pull me down/sideways towards the ground (salvia gravity?)
 
i don't like salvia at all. my dmt trip was better.
i'm more of a synthetic chemical person haha; maybe i listen to too much dark electronica.
 
If you could explain a psychedelic of any sort then it can't be much cop. Only one way to find out what it's like, that is to try it.
 
The best way to get a "good trip" on salvia is to NOT SMOKE IT.

It is said that the natives who used salvia for centuries say that smoking it is bad and the spirit salvia dislikes it. Salvia is a female and she reveals herself sometimes when you're under the influence/

Oral salvia I've heard good things about. Subingually and orally last longer, is more "tripable" like LSD and mushrooms. Not as in your face intense, confusing, ridiculous and physically absurd like smoked salvia ect.

I've heard it can change your life and help with depression.
 
DevinTheDude said:
Very Interesting. I have also experience this feeling of "Nostalgia" or I might describe it also as similar to "Deja Vu".

I experienced it the first time I smoked Salvia. Afterwards I could remember very little of my trip, including the Nostalgic Deja Vu feeling.

However months later during an extreme overdose on JWH 018, it brought me back to this same exact place in my mind at one point and I immediately remembered the details and feelings of the "Nostalgia/Deja Vu" place of my Salvia trip.

After I came down from this overdose, I did remember that I had just been taken back to this Nostalgic place in my mind and that it was the same as Salvia but I cannot remember much besides the fact that it happened.

Thinking back and trying to express it in words does however bring some memory of that "feeling" back though. Its impossible to put into words but the feeling is so real its almost tangible.

I somewhat remember it almost feeling like it took my mind back to its state when I was just an infant and had such a small awareness of everything about myself and the world around me. Its like I was a baby again for a few moments and trying to take everything in all at once.

Part of me believes this is why it feels like Nostalgia- because we now feel so disconnected to the inner-infant that is in us and that we used to be. For me, it felt alot like Deja Vu because I was just like dang.... this seems soooo familiar and just as I was piecing it together I got snapped to somewhere else.

I'm very curious if anybody can relate to this at all from a Salvia experience or any other drug experience. I think I have experienced this multiple times but have absolutely zero recollection afterwards each time. This is because I do remember one time thinking "MAN! I have been here before and several times and I always lose memory of it afterwards, sure hope it doesn't happen again".

And thats about all I can remember- just the thought of it.
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Concur 1000%! The sensation of "Deja-Vu" is really strong and deep for me... the details of the individual experiences hardly seem coherent enough to matter, except for one, when I smoked it while on LSD... experience was VERY coherent and still "worries" me to this day:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8879080&postcount=5

Am I REALLY that Indian boy trapped in a vision-quest-dream of THIS reality??? Hmmmm.... still I do wonder... that experience was SO clear and bright and real and consistent, I have alot of trouble dismissing it as a fantasy or wish... yet here I am stuck permanently in in 20th century USA it would seem!

But even the "balloon careening around the room" type of random salvia smoke experiences have a STRONG feeling of: I've BEEN HERE BEFORE, FOREVER!!! My 'human' life is just something that this fleet butterfly-like 10-dimensional salvia-being who I REALLY am flits into for a lark or maybe to learn... seems like a full life as a human but once my mind "pops out" of the human mind and back to salvia-dimension, time is at like a 90 degree angle to our time sense here, and has no meaning... an entire human life only lasted a blink from that perspective... this sense that OH YEA, *THIS* IS WHAT I REALLY AM... WHAT A RELIEF!!! NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT AND TAKE SO DAMN SERIOUSLY... ALL THE PAIN AND SUFFERING WAS JUST A DREAM OF SOME KIND, HAHA, HEHE, AWAY WE GO, WHEEEE! OFF TO SOME OTHER MENTAL ADVENTURE, PERHAPS AN ALIEN OR A TREE OR A STAR THIS TIME, YAHOO!

I am not kidding, that's what it has seemed like to me more than a few times. WTF is all that??? What does it mean? Is it some other way of perceiving my consciousness in the universe, equally valid as this human "I" ego glued and trapped inside this skull? Seems that way while the salvia lasts, but then I end up back here again, and this seems more real, except for that lingering feeling of strong Deja Vu I had while "over there".

NOTE: I also agree with later posts that sublingual is the way to go... the original way the shamen did it... some extracts don't work though... the one called "Emerald Essence" from Siebert, the original researcher of the stuff, really did do it VERY effectively however... cheaper ones did not. SAME Deja Vu effect, only the whole thing evolves more slowly and lasts ALOT longer and you can actally bring more back, but it still seemed quite dreamy, but also REAL, as if I was WAKING UP from THIS world which is the dream, back to my TRUE NATURE in a way that is hard to describe. Also, I always got a sense of Pine Trees (from the taste/smell of the salvia) and oddly, but very beautifully, strong strong feeling of seeing a very clear very deep Cobalt Blue light everywhere, behind and i inside of everything. Anyone ever get that on salvia, especially sublingual?

Oh yea... I always found that to get my mind to separate from my body and allow the trance to properly form, I need STILL and QUIET. Movement, touch, noise all seem to prevent the separation, and pull me back into my regular human place. So try to sit/lay as motionless as you can for the best chance to get it to work... even jostling or giggling by friends it the room can mess it up, at least for me.
 
When I 'broke-through' with my very intense morning glory seed extract trip I was at-once in this space of finally coming home. I had never felt it so tangibly or on such a core level of my existence in any part of what I had been experiencing as 'reality' up to that point.

When I came back I had a very intense feeling of nostalgia or more specifically home-sickness for days. I remember driving to work and crying both out of sheer emotional bliss for having been at last home as well out of feeling now so far away from it.

After that and through the years I see it has taught me a lot on how to be at home in this world we are both given and create :)
 
farmaz said:
there is something there that made me run cold.

i have that same feeling everytime. The 1 salvia trip i had i weighed the extract wrong & ended up smoking around a 1/8th of normall leaf. What i quoted was the same for me to the letter.

@caseface99 -

100% agree, it just is what it is
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I have heard that many, if not most people who break through all have very similar experiences in certain ways. Becoming part of an infinite machine, feeling a great sense of "Eternity", nostalgic dreams worlds, etc.

Reading about this may sound cool, but there is no way anyone who hasn't done it can possibly come within lightyears of understanding the true essence of the experience, or the aspect of literally having NO idea what is happening or why its happening; much less the ability to comprehend anything even if you did know what or why. Its almost as if you are existing in the minds most pure form, where there is no human brain to bring order and meaning to anything.
 
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