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Sorry if a similar topic already exists, it probably does, but I couldn't exactly find it and I just want to ventilate my opinion on drug users in general.

I have noticed that the more drugs I take myself and the more addicts I know, the less sympathy I have for heavy drug users in general. I really believe that most hard drug users are just useless pieces of shit that parasite on society and deserve nothing more than to die in horrible pains. It doesn't matter if you had horrible childhood and your father fucked you in the ass or if your girlfriend dumped you or if you were fired from work or anything. NOTHING gives you right to become this useless piece of shit that would sell his own mother for next fix. NOTHING gives you right to scam people. NOTHING gives you right to steal anything.
I probably wouldln't come to this decision/opinon if I didn't sell drugs myself. I only did it literally for few months and even this short period of time taught me what most addicts are. And it made me understand why drugs have to be so expensive. In fact now I think drugs are ridiculously cheap. One dose of coke should cost thousands of dollars. Being a drug dealer is one the worst jobs one can do because while you don't do much actual work, you have to deal with so much bullshit its not imaginable to ordinary people who work in some fucking office. I was never scammed, at least not by big money, but many people tried it multiple times. I hated people who wanted to buy something and at the same time told me their uninteresting stories about their fucked lives. I don't care. The ideal customer would be such that he would bring lots of money and then just DIE.

The point is, everyone should be responsible for his own decisions and face all the consequences. We all had different conditions in which we were born. Nobody is equal to anybody. And it's everyones fight. Some people are just weak and some are strong. The weak people think they can just be high their whole life and deserve the same rights to live and to everything as everybody else. They don't. If you choose to be a fucking addict, get a job and deserve your fucking money. Stealing and scamming is JUST as bad as murder because by doing so you weaken the whole society. Maybe even more than by killing somebody - you cost your country millions dollars.

All the people who do something useful with their lives are wasting large portion of their resources on useless pieces of tissues who think they are people like everybody else. They're not, they're just parasites.

I was such useless piece of shit myself too. But only for like 5 months. And I still didn't steal anything and didn't scam anyone. All the money I spent on drugs I got from real job. You can almost always decide to quit. If your brain (receptors etc.) changed too much that you are physically unable to make this decision, too bad. Your fault. Not anyones else.

The only exception to this are people who were FORCED to try a drug and became addiced. Like those girls who were kidnapped and were drugged all the time so they could record child porn with them. But how many are those of all drug users? 0.001%?

Just for the record I didn't have exactly nice or rich childhood either. My father never cared about anything and got divorced when I was like 6 years old. My mother is an extreme phlegmatic who just watches stupid TV shows 24hours a day. Still doesn't give me right to act like a piece of shit.

It's not about what drug you take and not even about what amounts you take. I know people who take loads of meth and are fine and I know people who just smoke weed and are useless parasites and do nothing for this planet.



All of this probably makes me look like an evil, greedy person. Trust me if you meet me in real life I am very nice person, I smile all the time. I can love people. I can only love GOOD people though. Most of hardcore junkies were never good people, long before they started using.

I'm just 23 years old and I hope I'll have a wonderful family one day.

I'm not sure if legalizing all drugs would change anything. It would definitely decrease black market efficiency and profits of organized crime groups, yes. But it wouldn't change peoples nature. Some people will just be BAD no matter what conditions and will search for loopholes in any system.

Lol is this any breakthrough or "smart" post? I know its not. But I HAD to ventilate myself.



If this doesn't deserve its own thread, I ask mods to move it wherever they find suitable. .)


Edit: I have little sympathy for people who shoot drugs in general. If you're one of those who inject drugs and still live a useful life, good for you. I admire you. But I don't know anybody like that. ALL the people I know who started injecting turned their lives to rock bottom. It just changes your brain way too fast, not comparable to snorting or smoking or any other ROA. You shouldn't have tried that, again your fault.
 
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I disagree. Drug-users can be succesful and productive just like non drugs users. Using drug doesn't automatically turn you into a stealing, lying parasite.

I agree on the part where you say that becoming addicted (mentally or physically) is your own fault.
 
Yeah I said that myself in that post that drug users can be productive as well, since I know meth heads who are doing just fine. I realize it's hard to draw a line between a "useful" drug user and "unusefull". There have been countless debates on this on this forum and all other drug forums.
But it occurs to me very often you can tell this from a single look in the eyes and from knowing something about that persons history.
 
The difference between a drug user and someone who remains sober is one likes to medicate themselves and the other is fine without doing so... Drug addicts can be successful and so can people who don't use... there are good people who are drug users and non drug users who are as well... again the difference is just one chooses to get high. Doesn't change who the person is, can be or whatever. I don't treat either with less respect than what they deserve.
 
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i look down on them
addicts are generally very selfish and manipulative people

therefore they're likely to be involved in crime, which brings no good to society

i fucking hate addictive drugs such as coke, heroin, meth
and see mdma, lsd, all other drugs as basically checkpoints to those addictions

most drug addicts appear to spend all day doing nothing productive but getting high and finding ways to get more money to get more high... the fuck you doing with your life
open a book,educate yourself, stop crying about your problems we all have them


i wish we only had weed and alcohol (because alcohol would be impossible to eliminate from society at this point in our history)
yea weed is addictive too, but those who have no self-control regarding weed shouldn't be touching any drugs
all other addictive drugs our society would be better off without
 
Yeah I have generally positive view on alcohol as well. Yes, many people are heavily physically addictive to it. Yes it does change your personality too if you drink heavily every day. But does it really deserve to be called hard drug, just like coke or hero? No fucking way. 90% of all people who drink can manage their drinking. You can't say that about coke or hero.
Alcohol is one of the most popular (if not THE most) often used argument of "pro drug" people who compare it to all other drugs. Wake up junkies, alcohol is extremely reliable socializing drug and is not in the same league as real hard drugs, despite being pretty physically damaging (liver). It does lot of bad but it does lot of good as well.
How many pure abstinents do you know? I don't anybody. Most people drink time to time and it doesn't affect their lives negatively AT ALL.
 
it's only a small minority of any drug users that ends up addicted and even smaller amount end on ruining their lives over it. You are over simplifying and generalizing. You are very ignorant but one day you'll figure it out and remember how stupid this post was. All drugs are drugs, drugs are like food, no distinction between. No drug is better than another, no addiction is better or worse than another.

Every person is equal to the next. The people who think they are the most strong are usually the most self-consciousness and weak, but like to call themselves strong so they can feel better about themselves for being such pieces of shit.

Most people use drugs and it doesn't affect their lives either. Alcohol is just a shitty boring drug, if it weren't the equivalent of becoming a complete moron more people on bluelight would probably love it. Alcohol is about as enlightening as reading this thread.

Don't bother having a family, your kids will hate you. Or do have one and I hope they turn out to be scum dirty junkies. If you have a problem with people who are immoral and steal/lie/cheat then that's fine but don't think that just because someone is taking a certain drug every day or a lot, that they are like that.
 
All drugs are drugs, drugs are like food, no distinction between. No drug is better than another, no addiction is better or worse than another.

I never get this argument, it's just never made sense to me :?

If say, cannabis was a hot dog, then what kind of food could Krokodil for instance possibly be? But food is relatively benign, compared to most drugs which are toxic to a certain extent? I think there are some definite distinctions.

IMO some particular drugs are most definitely better than others in many different ways, and some addictions are certainly better than others (generally speaking of course - there are always exceptions).
 
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that (op) sounds very christian to me....

you shoud work out why you hate yourself so much.
 
The classic nonsense of addicted mind: all drugs are drugs, it doesn't matter what anyone is doing. Coffeine is a drug too. So is taurin. So is nicotine. So is chocolate.
Again for the 3rd time, I do know that it is possible to have under control ANY drug. But that doesn't mean all drugs are equal. Nor that all addictions are equal. Some drugs have very high potential to fuck peoples lives and some have low potential. If you choose to try to a drug with high potential to fuck you and become a fucktard, your fault. I tried all of those too - and I would never dare to ask anyone for help if I became a junkie.

Maybe its true that only 15% of all people who try coke become addicted. I don't know exact percentage. Nobody does. But once you become addicted loser, I only wish you the worst. If you go on to live "normally", I wish you good things.

And chrisitian... lol. I'm a firm atheist.
 
And people are not equal to each other. Thats communistic bullshit (mind you I'm not exactly right wing person either - all politicians are just gorgeous liars and thieves. I have no politic views basically but I do think that left wing is the most dangerous way of thinking as it protomoes the weak and useless).
Animals are not equal to each other either. Weak die, strong live.
 
I have some thoughts which I attach to the group "drug addicts" among which there are both good (skepticism, non-conformism, open-mindedness) and bad (irresponsible, egocentric, untrustworthy) ones, but I try not to think in such terms - it's hard not to, but I stop myself as soon as I notice it happening.

I've seen enough completely functional (sometimes super-functional!) drug addicts and fucked up alcoholics (or Jesus junkies) to know that "drug addicts in general" is a vast group of people, and whatever stereotype I hold to be representative of "drug addicts in general" is probably only a smallish minority of the actual group in question.

Drug addicts are people. In general I think they should keep their wits about when dealing with the police. That is all.
 
Edit: I have little sympathy for people who shoot drugs in general. If you're one of those who inject drugs and still live a useful life, good for you. I admire you. But I don't know anybody like that. ALL the people I know who started injecting turned their lives to rock bottom. It just changes your brain way too fast, not comparable to snorting or smoking or any other ROA. You shouldn't have tried that, again your fault.

Horrible logic. I've seen people sniffing dope do just as many fucked up things as people shooting it.

Not about the ROA at all. All about the person, and their capabilities to handle drugs.

Lets say you rob/cheat/steal what makes you better than an IV user who doesn't? You dont stick a spike in your arm? Nothing makes you better in that scenario.

And FYI if you truly believe in being responsible for your actions, go turn yourself in at the police station. You exploitative piece of shit drug dealer.

See what I did there? I flipped it around. Because you were calling drug users pieces of shit, but then offer them the very thing which you condemn! Give a them a bag of dope with one hand and pass judgement and condemn with the other? Pretty fucked up of you. If you think everyone should be responsible, well youre truly not living by your own standards, are you?

Kinda almost makes you a hypocrite, huh?

But nah your def a nice smiley person, who just exploits those with a problem. You're definitely a good guy right? Right up there with the guy charging starving people 20$ for a bowl of rice. Def filled to the brim with benevolence and love! You definitely dont sound like an asshole who would exploit their own mother if she were a crack addict (also ironic since you are condemning drug addicts for exploiting people).

A drug addict is a human being.
 
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Drug addicts are people. In general I think they should keep their wits about when dealing with the police. That is all.
The bottom line. Even though it's overlooked and disregarded, this is the only truth. They're people, and each person is unique, therefore seeing all of them as compulsive liars and thieves is plain dumb and irrational. Even though it's hard to look at them in any other way, you need to use your own brain rather than blindly follow everything the general society tells you.
 
And people are not equal to each other. Thats communistic bullshit (mind you I'm not exactly right wing person either - all politicians are just gorgeous liars and thieves. I have no politic views basically but I do think that left wing is the most dangerous way of thinking as it protomoes the weak and useless).
Animals are not equal to each other either. Weak die, strong live.

Whoa, that's some huge pile of bigoted, social-darwinist, 19th-century bullshit you just spat right there... I'd be curious to see your definition of 'weak and useless', as your reasoning (if we can call it that) is pretty weak and useless itself.
 
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Sorry if a similar topic already exists, it probably does, but I couldn't exactly find it and I just want to ventilate my opinion on drug users in general.

I have noticed that the more drugs I take myself and the more addicts I know, the less sympathy I have for heavy drug users in general. I really believe that most hard drug users are just useless pieces of shit that parasite on society and deserve nothing more than to die in horrible pains. It doesn't matter if you had horrible childhood and your father fucked you in the ass or if your girlfriend dumped you or if you were fired from work or anything. NOTHING gives you right to become this useless piece of shit that would sell his own mother for next fix. NOTHING gives you right to scam people. NOTHING gives you right to steal anything.
I probably wouldln't come to this decision/opinon if I didn't sell drugs myself. I only did it literally for few months and even this short period of time taught me what most addicts are. And it made me understand why drugs have to be so expensive. In fact now I think drugs are ridiculously cheap. One dose of coke should cost thousands of dollars. Being a drug dealer is one the worst jobs one can do because while you don't do much actual work, you have to deal with so much bullshit its not imaginable to ordinary people who work in some fucking office. I was never scammed, at least not by big money, but many people tried it multiple times. I hated people who wanted to buy something and at the same time told me their uninteresting stories about their fucked lives. I don't care. The ideal customer would be such that he would bring lots of money and then just DIE.

The point is, everyone should be responsible for his own decisions and face all the consequences. We all had different conditions in which we were born. Nobody is equal to anybody. And it's everyones fight. Some people are just weak and some are strong. The weak people think they can just be high their whole life and deserve the same rights to live and to everything as everybody else. They don't. If you choose to be a fucking addict, get a job and deserve your fucking money. Stealing and scamming is JUST as bad as murder because by doing so you weaken the whole society. Maybe even more than by killing somebody - you cost your country millions dollars.

All the people who do something useful with their lives are wasting large portion of their resources on useless pieces of tissues who think they are people like everybody else. They're not, they're just parasites.

I was such useless piece of shit myself too. But only for like 5 months. And I still didn't steal anything and didn't scam anyone. All the money I spent on drugs I got from real job. You can almost always decide to quit. If your brain (receptors etc.) changed too much that you are physically unable to make this decision, too bad. Your fault. Not anyones else.

The only exception to this are people who were FORCED to try a drug and became addiced. Like those girls who were kidnapped and were drugged all the time so they could record child porn with them. But how many are those of all drug users? 0.001%?

Just for the record I didn't have exactly nice or rich childhood either. My father never cared about anything and got divorced when I was like 6 years old. My mother is an extreme phlegmatic who just watches stupid TV shows 24hours a day. Still doesn't give me right to act like a piece of shit.

It's not about what drug you take and not even about what amounts you take. I know people who take loads of meth and are fine and I know people who just smoke weed and are useless parasites and do nothing for this planet.



All of this probably makes me look like an evil, greedy person. Trust me if you meet me in real life I am very nice person, I smile all the time. I can love people. I can only love GOOD people though. Most of hardcore junkies were never good people, long before they started using.

I'm just 23 years old and I hope I'll have a wonderful family one day.

I'm not sure if legalizing all drugs would change anything. It would definitely decrease black market efficiency and profits of organized crime groups, yes. But it wouldn't change peoples nature. Some people will just be BAD no matter what conditions and will search for loopholes in any system.

Lol is this any breakthrough or "smart" post? I know its not. But I HAD to ventilate myself.



If this doesn't deserve its own thread, I ask mods to move it wherever they find suitable. .)


Edit: I have little sympathy for people who shoot drugs in general. If you're one of those who inject drugs and still live a useful life, good for you. I admire you. But I don't know anybody like that. ALL the people I know who started injecting turned their lives to rock bottom. It just changes your brain way too fast, not comparable to snorting or smoking or any other ROA. You shouldn't have tried that, again your fault.
i only read about half of your rant before coming to the conclusion you're a real fuckin dick

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The way i look at it, is that drug use is a part of being human. We all do it, some abuse them to escape from a reality they have issues with rather than face them. Perhaps its because they are unwilling to take control of their life, or choose not to because they say fuck it, i'm going to be a cynical asshole and go on a hedonistic drug oddesy. I have much less sympathy for the latter.

But theres the people out there, that were born/raised/influenced in a way that made them vulnerable to abuse of drugs. People who don't have the support they need in whatever form, and turn to drugs to try and numb that pain out of desperation. Is it their fault their early life, or whole life has been a game of chance not in their favor? No. These are the people that should be helped instead of shunned. The homeless veterans with ptsd that are so fucked up it makes life exponentially harder for them, and drugs provide an escape. The schizophrenics, born with the odds against them. The people abused/neglected as children. I can understand the impetus for that kind of abuse. Its the people who have it easy, and choose to satisfy their selfish desires to the point it destroys their lives. They still need help, but their far more responsible for becoming an addict than those predisposed to it genetically, or from life experiences beyond their control.

They all deserve sympathy, and help, But an addict is still responsible for actions they take that do harm upon others, no matter what made them an addict, and since thats a cost we all have to bear, those who haven't hurt others because of their addictions, or are predisposed to addiction deserve help most/first.
 
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