What do we know about Red Mitsubishis? (Australia)

...is still that PMA+MDMA pills can't be distinguised from MDMA+other primary amine? i.e. robadope and marquis.

Nope doesn't look like it the Mandelin test looks like it might come close but probably after a number of tests where it test purple for the mda content and green for amphetamine content.
 
BlueMind said:
Fuck PMA. All the more reason for regulation, IMHO.

I mean, a chemist could probably make boatloads of cash as it is from illicit MDMA, but they are so greedy they need to sell people shit that will KILL them?

Fuck that! At least the government doesnt want you dead! How can you pay taxes if you are dead ;)

Please check your facts on PMA again. I even contributed to the fact, that some people may not even be aware that they are making PMA. It's entirely possible, when you get kids trying to make MDMA for the first time, and don't know dick about chemistry.
 
Second ecstasy death raises alarm

Second ecstasy death raises alarm

October 25, 2004

A second person has died after taking a tablet containing ecstasy and caffeine, known as a Red Mitsubishi.

Police say the 28-year-old Adelaide man died in a motel on Sunday.

His death followed that of a Sydney teenager who took the drug earlier this month.

At least 12 overdoses around Australia have been linked to the drug in recent weeks.

Contrary to previous reports, police no longer believe the tablets contained paramethoxy-amphetamine, or PMA - only ecstasy and caffeine.

Detective Inspector Peter Giles said an ambulance was called to a North Adelaide motel at 12.20pm (CST) on Sunday but it appeared the man had died a considerable time earlier.

"While there's nothing at this stage considered to be suspicious in connection with his death, it's believed a Mitsubishi tablet either caused or (was a) contributory cause to it," Det Insp Giles said.

"The type of drug (ecstasy) involved is a stimulant, as of course is caffeine, which in these instances was mixed together.

"Basically, it would be suspected that it would cause things like accelerated heart rate and so on and eventually lead to death."

Last week, 500 tablets marked with Mitsubishi or Calvin Klein insignias were found during a raid on a Perth home.

The haul's estimated street value was up to $25,000.

Det Insp Giles reiterated police concerns about the use of illicit drugs.

"The message that we really want to push ... is that, although from a police perspective we'd rather that no-one takes illicit drugs, if you do, you must always bear in mind that you can never be guaranteed as to the actual drug content of the tablets that you take," he said.

"Even dealing with what may seem to be the same tablet (as a person has consumed previously), the next batch may contain totally inconsistent chemicals to what you are used to dealing with.

"If you are going to place yourself in that situation, it would be advisable to take steps that other people are aware and are likely to be in a conscious state and able to take action if something goes wrong with the particular trip you end up taking."

A report on the man's death would be prepared for the state coroner.

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^so it's NOT PMA... The article seems to imply that a mix of ecstasy and caffeine is known as a Red Mitsi... oh well.

Still no hint as to why people are ODing on this pill - maybe they had a few, or other drugs on board? The stats on people prescribed anti-depressants is high - maybe unwittingly combining MDMA with MAOI?
 
Raids net deadly drug

Raids net deadly drug

By GEMMA JONES
November 1, 2004

LETHAL tablets of the same drug believed responsible for the deaths of two people over the past month were seized by police in raids at Kings Cross and the city early yesterday.

Police officers recovered up to 100 illegal pills, including 3½ "Red Mitsubishi" tablets.

Officers were alarmed by the discovery of the ecstasy-based drug, which killed 19-year-old Danielle Chalon just four weeks ago.

Ms Chalon collapsed at Kings Cross and died later in hospital after taking half an "Orange CK" tablet, which is also sold as Red Mitsubishi but is considered more dangerous.

Just eight days ago, 38-year-old South Australian man Steven Fotineas died in a North Adelaide motel room from a suspected overdose of Red Mitsubishi.

Just a small amount of the drug can cause a deadly increase in blood pressure and body temperature.

Twelve MTV ecstasy tablets – which police say are as dangerous as Red Mitsubishi – cocaine, amphetamines and filled syringes were seized during yesterday's raid.

Most clubbers dumped the drugs on nightclub floors as police and a drug sniffer dog entered venues in Oxford St and George St to search patrons.

Inspector John Behrendt, the target action group leader from City Central Police said he was surprised to see the drug was still circulating.

"Especially since that girl died, you would wonder why people are still dealing in that when it is so dangerous," he said.

"With all the publicity you would think people would pay attention."

Ms Chalon was out with friends on October 1 when she took half an Orange CK tablet on her way to Kings Cross, where she collapsed.

She died three days later at Nepean Hospital when her life support machine was switched off after doctors discovered bleeding on her brain.

Several other people have been hospitalised after taking the drug, which police warn is often sold as ecstasy but contains paramethoxy-amphetamine or PMA, which is a far more dangerous substance.

After yesterday's operation, 16 people were charged with drug possession offences, with one woman allegedly found with the 12 MTV ecstasy tablets.

Another 14 people were issued with cautions for cannabis possession.

In the highly-visible operation, officers carrying seized syringes and bags of powder emerged from Arq nightclub just after 1am.

They moved down Oxford St, searching patrons in clubs including Kinselas at 1.30am and the Colombian Hotel just before 2am.

The 17 police involved in the operation recorded 94g of drugs, which were discarded on nightclub floors as police entered.

Insp Behrendt said several of the alleged offenders were arrested.


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