Meth What did I score, Ive never had product do this. Send help

[ThatDamnBowlRolla]

So picked up a gram. Crystal size all about the same size, square. Crackback is clear and spread out. There's always a puddle in the middle that takes way longer to go back to a solid. It's also the only part that will change color on you but all of the shit runs from the heat. Ive performed an acetone wash, bleach test water dissolve test (it takes for ever to dissolve) and tests positive for meth in reagent test. When you smoke it, it's not that slight chemical taste you get from meth, it's tasteless or kinda like perfume. This is also the 2nd in a row I've bought and wound up with this shit. High is non euphoria you just get like calm and focused for HOURS . But your back and neck get tense and you can feel it hit your skin super quick. Blows your pupils and it's just not what I'm looking for.

Does this sound familiar to y'all. It's not MSM for damn sure. Idk what the hell this is but it's not d meth. I hope I didn't fuck myself too bad because I consumed like half that gram chasing a high that was f there after all those tests lured me into false confidence that I could use it.

Is this that shit they claim is n-iso?? And isn't that super bad? This is the first time I've seen this type of stuff in the 10 years I've been on and off stims

The crystals are super cloudy in centre and the outer is clear. Goes into a clear liquid that cracks back fairly quick. But this shit looks like decent product I'm so stumped

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

No one can tell by looking at a substance what it is. Either have it tested at a lab or test it yourself a with test reagents.

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

I hate that perfume crap, I can like taste it. It sounds like cartel crank to me. When I was on the west coast I would get stuff like you are describing. It's also on the dark web alot I see people complaining about it on dread 24/7.

That stuff will work but it's gross and made me and my bathroom smell like c chemicals after heavy use.

It's probably more levo meth than d meth in that stuff.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

It's probably more levo meth than d meth in that stuff.

The likelihood hood that could happen in synthesis is really miniscule. I discussed the very improbable way something like this could happen in one of the “what is wrong with the mdma today” threads years ago.

Someone would have to be cutting it with L meth. Even then you wouldn’t see two different melting points.

I’d guess it’s a totally different chemical added in or as a byproduct

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

The likelihood hood that could happen in synthesis is really miniscule. I discussed the very improbable way something like this could happen in one of the “what is wrong with the mdma today” threads years ago.

Someone would have to be cutting it with L meth. Even then you wouldn’t see two different melting points.

I’d guess it’s a totally different chemical added in or as a byproduct

There's a theory going around on dread. They believe some people are extracting d meth somehow and then they put either levo or msm in through some kind of chemical extraction and they recrystallizse it. Idk how they would do this and I've seen only a few posts about it. I would have to imagine its not msm if OP did an acetone wash but I have seen reports of people getting stuff and when they wash it they lose like 80 percent of their product.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

There's a theory going around on dread. They believe some people are extracting d meth somehow and then they put either levo or msm in through some kind of chemical extraction and they recrystallizse it. Idk how they would do this and I've seen only a few posts about it. I would have to imagine its not msm if OP did an acetone wash but I have seen reports of people getting stuff and when they wash it they lose like 80 percent of their product.

You could extract one enatiomer out of a race
mate using a chiral salt.

 

[ThatDamnBowlRolla]

There's a theory going around on dread. They believe some people are extracting d meth somehow and then they put either levo or msm in through some kind of chemical extraction and they recrystallizse it. Idk how they would do this and I've seen only a few posts about it. I would have to imagine its not msm if OP did an acetone wash but I have seen reports of people getting stuff and when they wash it they lose like 80 percent of their product.

I mean I'm looking at that theory rn. Check it, so that whole bag I got maybe a few hits hits or like half a bowl of use out of it. Every other bowl was fucking poooopoooo. Dude I was like what the fuck is going on here. Called my person and he's like you're the only one complaining I fucking howled. He came over and was like oh fuck damn like idk what to say after I showed him. He's switching his supplier now. So definitely a learning experience here for me. How long this shit been hitting markets for? It's new to me

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

I mean I'm looking at that theory rn. Check it, so that whole bag I got maybe a few hits hits or like half a bowl of use out of it. Every other bowl was fucking poooopoooo. Dude I was like what the fuck is going on here. Called my person and he's like you're the only one complaining I fucking howled. He came over and was like oh fuck damn like idk what to say after I showed him. He's switching his supplier now. So definitely a learning experience here for me. How long this shit been hitting markets for? It's new to me

It started in December, I almost got some. The "Greatest meth ever 2000's quality". There were major errors I guess somewhere down the line and the one guy was doing sketch shit like what has been theorized.
Whatever weird extraction thing he was doing I don't understand chemistry that well.
There's all kinds of people getting the wet chemical slop and its not just from this guy, because other people got it from him I beleive. He was also fucking up all the shipping so there's all crank getting shipped to all wrong houses. Complete shit show honestly I waited for months and the guy went completely dark.
I would imagine something bad happened or he's just done.

The dark web vendors are all sketchy but there are really good ones. A lot of dealers that don't have a good local supplier go through it typically, most reviews are dealers or the vendor boosting their account.

You could extract one enatiomer out of a race
mate using a chiral salt.

Yeah Lucid like are you chemistry major? Like do you work in chemistry or something. I'm like dumb like I've done ungodly amount of drugs, I do computer science though and some like calculus and physics.
I don't understand the rules of chemistry. Would there be a way to take the methamphetamine out partially and then just recrystalize it with levo or msm. The people doing this are as brain dead as me, probably just know recipes. I'd imagine they dont know how to do what you stated actually changing the chemical compound. I think its more like the dealers cutting it out in a way that makes look uncut still. But there messing up and making whatever hell has been going around.

 

[versari]

you could always just acetone wash the meth you got to get whatever rubbish impurities there are in the meth out.

a lot of meth be it in America or Australia isnt even cut with MSM anymore, they use all sorts of other rubbish chemicals nowadays.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

It started in December, I almost got some. The "Greatest meth ever 2000's quality". There were major errors I guess somewhere down the line and the one guy was doing sketch shit like what has been theorized.
Whatever weird extraction thing he was doing I don't understand chemistry that well.
There's all kinds of people getting the wet chemical slop and its not just from this guy, because other people got it from him I beleive. He was also fucking up all the shipping so there's all crank getting shipped to all wrong houses. Complete shit show honestly I waited for months and the guy went completely dark.
I would imagine something bad happened or he's just done.

The dark web vendors are all sketchy but there are really good ones. A lot of dealers that don't have a good local supplier go through it typically, most reviews are dealers or the vendor boosting their account.



Yeah Lucid like are you chemistry major? Like do you work in chemistry or something. I'm like dumb like I've done ungodly amount of drugs, I do computer science though and some like calculus and physics.
I don't understand the rules of chemistry. Would there be a way to take the methamphetamine out partially and then just recrystalize it with levo or msm. The people doing this are as brain dead as me, probably just know recipes. I'd imagine they dont know how to do what you stated actually changing the chemical compound. I think its more like the dealers cutting it out in a way that makes look uncut still. But there messing up and making whatever hell has been going around.

It isn’t really changing the chemical compound it’s about mixing it with other chemicals that only form salts with L or D meth preferentially.

Just searched and found this so it has been done.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/chir.1056

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&as_vis=1&q=chiral+resolution+tartrate+of+methamphetamine+chiral+salt&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1743995173125&u=#p=QIIh0sGaxxAJ

Yes I am a PhD in chemistry and work in the field.

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

It isn’t really changing the chemical compound it’s about mixing it with other chemicals that only form salts with L or D meth preferentially.

Just searched and found this so it has been done.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/chir.1056

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&as_vis=1&q=chiral+resolution+tartrate+of+methamphetamine+chiral+salt&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1743995173125&u=#p=QIIh0sGaxxAJ

Yes I am a PhD in chemistry and work in the field.

Holy cow that's crazy. I'm making considerations on switching to engineering(electrical/mechanical) or maybe trying to do chemistry. I'm capable of doing something advanced like that if it's the only thing I do and I store the information in my brain and get experience.I can't do it all together it has to be one. I also have a felony on my record(I can have it removed in a few years) but I really need something that is highly in demand.
I don't want to go to college and not get a job I'll literally do psycho shit.

Sorry that's off topic.
Thanks for finding that for me man. I would have searched to find the post's from the other chemist that explained it on dread. That's awesome its documented.
Sucks for everyone getting ripped off right now though.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Holy cow that's crazy. I'm making considerations on switching to engineering(electrical/mechanical) or maybe trying to do chemistry. I'm capable of doing something advanced like that if it's the only thing I do and I store the information in my brain and get experience.I can't do it all together it has to be one. I also have a felony on my record(I can have it removed in a few years) but I really need something that is highly in demand.
I don't want to go to college and not get a job I'll literally do psycho shit.

Sorry that's off topic.
Thanks for finding that for me man. I would have searched to find the post's from the other chemist that explained it on dread. That's awesome its documented.
Sucks for everyone getting ripped off right now though.

Chemical engineering is much better than pure chemistry career wise.

But if I was going into any engineering field I would do mechanical or electrical

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

Chemistry is a dead end for most ppl and those that stay in it find it unstable of a field to work in especially the more senior you become or the more advanced your degree is.

Chemical engineering is much better career wise.

But if I was going into any engineering field I would do mechanical or electrical

Yeah I'm considering electrical obviously. I'm into mechanical engineering though.
I have a friend that is a civil Engineer he like hate's his life and has struggled to get jobs.
He just recently got a government job but he's like messed up about it lol.
They wont let him do remote after all that time trying to get a job he's been raging about it.

I think STEM degrees are like losing their value unless you go full in on it. Im always like 75 percent in.
Thanks for the info though I always thought chemistry was highly sought after by companies because it's a universal science.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Yeah I'm considering electrical obviously. I'm into mechanical engineering though.
I have a friend that is a civil Engineer he like hate's his life and has struggled to get jobs.
He just recently got a government job but he's like messed up about it lol.
They wont let him do remote after all that time trying to get a job he's been raging about it.

I think STEM degrees are like losing their value unless you go full in on it. Im always like 75 percent in.
Thanks for the info though I always thought chemistry was highly sought after by companies because it's a universal science.

Analytical chemistry is the only field of chemistry with a lot of jobs. The others all suck. Much of the work has been outsourced to Asia.

you are welcome to pm me if u want to talk more about it but I would strongly recommend to anyone interested in chemistry not to go down that route unless it’s analytical chemistry

 

[Cartelsouthernland]

you could always just acetone wash the meth you got to get whatever rubbish impurities there are in the meth out.

a lot of meth be it in America or Australia isnt even cut with MSM anymore, they use all sorts of other rubbish chemicals nowadays.

In Australia most meth is heavily cut with N‐Isopropylbenzylamine with a small amount of actual meth mixed in with it which is especially true if you buy online

 

[ThatDamnBowlRolla]

It isn’t really changing the chemical compound it’s about mixing it with other chemicals that only form salts with L or D meth preferentially.

Just searched and found this so it has been done.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/chir.1056

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&as_vis=1&q=chiral+resolution+tartrate+of+methamphetamine+chiral+salt&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1743995173125&u=#p=QIIh0sGaxxAJ

Yes I am a PhD in chemistry and work in the field.

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