What demographic do you think caters most to EDM right now?

I agree, genres do exist to help promote musical artwork.

However
They do not exist for the purpose of argument.

If I make a dubstep track and set the BPM at 128, then have the same percussion, build up and bass drop as a typical Dub track does, is it dub or house?

We're all allowed our own opinions and fighting over genres is a waste of time. There's some characteristics that identify genres, but in my opinion unless the song fits all of the traits like a cookie cutter, the sake of debate is pointless.
 
@alasdair - I understand it's a discussion but I am detecting either sarcasm or somethiing towards my every post. I guess I should not take everything so personally, I felt slightly attacked due to the fact I felt instead of asking me questions to poke at some idea, you just poking at my intelligence.....I am looking for ideas and discussion, I did not mean to take it personally but I did :/

Anyway, sure, genre discussion can be very loopy, biased, etc and I feel especially with eletronic music in general - it's constantly evolving and so genres and new genres are changing and appearing at a rapid rate lately.

But as my titles goes, it seems to have gotten off topic to genre discussion...when apparently EDM caters to drug users^ lol. Apparently sluts too since that's what one of my friends said haha...
 
Well on some other boards you might be outright laughed at and the thread closed.

I think we're engaged in a pretty good discussion really. I mean people make some serious money off the stuff we're talking about. Some record execs in EMI, or Universal are probably sitting around thinking about what middle class teenagers are going to like in terms of EDM driving around in their parents car and how they can fortify their existing "products" aka talent.
Maybe they're focus grouping on the next Prodigy or Crystal Method, or the next Skrillex. Big Business.

And there's a history there. We're not re-inventing the wheel here. Fuck, we're talking about something that started in the 70s with disco and Club 54 and shit tons of coke.

EDM people are the most fussy zealots I think in the whole music industry. We worship our favorite DJs like Gods and there's a lot of people that only stick to one genre as a form of identity. We love to piss on other people's genres. Its the worse case of musical in-fighting and I can quote you numerous stereotypes of EDM genres and the people that listen to them.
It has that cheese connection with fashion where at the drop of a dime the new genre people are harping about as new (which some kid probably mixing two records together 10 years ago already figured out and tossed) that the business execs want to sell you, gets traded for something else. Like fads. The magazines telling you whats "in" this year.

And the connection with drugs that, yeah basically, its something you dance to when you're out at the club all fucked up and looking for casual sex.
 
parachuteantics said:
@alasdair - I understand it's a discussion but I am detecting either sarcasm or somethiing towards my every post. I guess I should not take everything so personally, I felt slightly attacked due to the fact I felt instead of asking me questions to poke at some idea, you just poking at my intelligence.....I am looking for ideas and discussion, I did not mean to take it personally but I did :/
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gracious. perhaps a visit to the p&s forum is in order? at very least consider reading the four agreements which will definitely help...

take the questions at face value. "in what sense does a demographic cater to edm?" means "in what sense does a demographic cater to edm?". no more, no less.

you never answered that question anyway...

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alasdair
 
LuGoJ said:
Using information from a high school student to gauge how things are in the real world isn’t the best way to get accurate information. High school truly is its own universe in a way. Even college kids could offer better insight but even that is its own microcosm in many ways.

I can’t speak with certainty about the scene now as I don’t go out very often anymore but the beautiful thing about this scene was that it DIDN'T cater to any crowds. It catered to ALL crowds. I am really hoping that’s still how it is.

We used to have metal and punk kids coming out for the hardcore/gabber and speedcore, the hip hop kids would come for the drum and bass/Jungle, the ravers would come for a bit of everything. You would have all of these people that would not get along on the outside all coming together in harmony, with almost no fighting.
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yea i remember when it was like this.. i still see it once in a while at shows. i recently saw wolfgang gartner and i was talking with a bunch of people my age there (im 35) .. i remember seeing pantera one night and when that show was done at 11pm i then drove 3 hours south and went to a rave and a whole bunch of the kids at the pantera show followed me and we all had a awesome time .
 
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